Other Sports Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment - Page 144

Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

**Bugeater** · 06-08-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Anyways....

Always reliable Mizzou beat write Dave Matter via Twitter.

"Spoke to an attorney who specializes in sports law/contracts. Mizzou's best move might be to ignore ultimatum. More on blog later today"

http://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/statuses/15723992901

Someone on our local station here said the same thing yesterday. After all, what the hell is the Big XII going to do if they just say "uhhh...we haven't decided anything yet"?

SPchief · 06-08-2010, 01:10 PM

Sweet, does everyone know that a former KU basketball player is playing tonight?

SPchief · 06-08-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Someone on our local station here said the same thing yesterday. After all, what the hell is the Big XII going to do if they just say "uhhh...we haven't decided anything yet"?

Maybe make them play a basketball game against KU with the winner making the decision on what to do with the league

KChiefs1 · 06-08-2010, 01:12 PM

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/914

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Jon Sundvold - former Missouri basketball star and NBA player, uber-respected TV commentator and financial wizard - got my vote as a stand-up guy Tuesday morning when he became one of the few folk in Columbia, Mo., to return a telephone call.

Sundvold knew the subject was college athletic expansion and that I wanted his thoughts on Missouri's role in all of that. And he gave them. As an interested bystander, for sure, and not one of the decision makers.

But on that level I considered them worth sharing here:

"I don't know what's going to happen," Sundvold said. "Most of the people in Columbia have no idea. But it is the only thing they are talking about.

"If it blows up - if the Big 12 blows up - it should go on all their resumes.

The presidents and the chancellors, if it doesn't survive.

"It will be a phenominal failure on the parts of chancellors and presidents."

Sundvold contends the Big 12 should be in expansion mode rather than in the reactionary mode of giving Missouri and Nebraska ultimatums over those schools not giving the Big 12 their pledge of undying allegiance.

In that, he has a lot of agreement. While the Big Ten is talking about expansion, and the Pac 10 is talking about expansion, the Big 12 is trying to save itself by guilting Nebraska and Missouri into preserving the "Big Texas" Conference.

Will it work?

Not if Nebraska and Missouri maintain what for Missouri is an unusual and total silence and for Nebraska a general no-comment one.

Neither has to pledge anything. If the Big 12 votes to boot Nebraska and Missouri to the sidelines, it accomplishes the same thing as Nebraska and Missouri joining the Big Ten anyway.

One strategy for saving the Big 12 seems to be to drive a wedge between Nebraska and Missouri by repeated media statements quoting some poorly-cloaked sources that Missouri doesn't matter, that the Tigers have always been a bunch of whiners, and that Nebraska holds the key to everything.

See how important you are to "us," oh, mighty Nebraska?

Stay with us. We love you. We respect you.

Tom Osborne has more brains than to fall for a butter-up job. Osborne has been fighting the longest of anybody in the old Big Eight against the Big Texas.

Missouri, meanwhile, is making my job a lot tougher but finally doing the right thing. Following advice of consultants hired to help guide them through the shoals of expansion, MU officials are maintaining a silence they have been unable to pull off for the last 25 years.

Missouri has always been surrounded by "sources" more than willing to tell the media exactly what is going down.

Now the powers that be at Mizzou are remaining mum in the face of rampant speculation and quite obviously have not shared details of what is or is not going on with a circle of people large enough to spring leaks.

Stay tuned.

Pants · 06-08-2010, 01:12 PM

What's with the circle jerk making fun of KU bball? How do you think MU fans would act if they were a perennial power in basketball and KU wasn't good at anything?

chiefsnorth · 06-08-2010, 01:17 PM

Should KSU be upset here? After all if KU had a credible football program, the two for one might make sense to some major conference

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Pants · 06-08-2010, 01:20 PM

How can the B12 be talking about expansion when the pasture is so much greener in B10 and two school who want to go there badly are waiting for the invitation? B12 has no trump cards in this, they don't have a choice in the matter, they have to react. Besides, Texas has too much pull and that's another thing causing dissension among other, less fortunate schools.

DJ's left nut · 06-08-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Someone on our local station here said the same thing yesterday. After all, what the hell is the Big XII going to do if they just say "uhhh...we haven't decided anything yet"?

I said that 2 days ago in this very thread, dammit!

If MU has the invite, of course it's in their best interest to ignore the ultimatum, provided their damn sure they have a soft landing lined up. Make the Big 12 throw them out of the conference, avoid the buyout penalty in their Big 12 contract and then accept the Big-10 offer.

It'd save them millions.

kepp · 06-08-2010, 01:22 PM

Keitzman is on right now saying that switching conferences for academic reasons is extremely risky because all that Big10 grant/research money is going to suddenly "go away". Uh, yeah.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-08-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

What's with the circle jerk making fun of KU bball? How do you think MU fans would act if they were a perennial power in basketball and KU wasn't good at anything?

As an unbiased outsider, it appears to me that no one is making fun of KU Basketball, only the douchebags that think winning a Championship once every 25 years makes KU CBB royalty - and that a move to the Mountain West couldn't possibly hurt the program - you're Kansas, for Christ sake. Top recruits will want to play for us no matter what.

From my view, I see a lot of KU fans, both good (Guru, Lzen, etc) and douchbags alike scared shitless that they are about to be left out in the cold, and the douchebags will say just about anything to rationalize it.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-08-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

How can the B12 be talking about expansion when the pasture is so much greener in B10 and two school who want to go there badly are waiting for the invitation? B12 has no trump cards in this, they don't have a choice in the matter, they have to react. Besides, Texas has too much pull and that's another thing causing dissension among other, less fortunate schools.

Exactly.

On the surface, it would probably sound great to 2 undetermined schools to come to the B12 - until they realize that their only role in the whole thing is to make Texas richer.

Pants · 06-08-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I said that 2 days ago in this very thread, dammit!

If MU has the invite, of course it's in their best interest to ignore the ultimatum, provided their damn sure they have a soft landing lined up. Make the Big 12 throw them out of the conference, avoid the buyout penalty in their Big 12 contract and then accept the Big-10 offer.

It'd save them millions.

I think the point they're trying to make is that even if MU gets no invite, it's unlikely the B12 will kick them out because the effect on the B12 is going to be the same as losing the schools to B10, which is what the ultimatum is trying to prevent to begin with.

Pitt Gorilla · 06-08-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Even if you are not a Mizzou fan...RockMNation.com is a really good resource on keeping up with all of this shit...there link dump today is actually kind of hilairious.

RockMNation.com

http://www.rockmnation.com/2010/6/8/...u-links-6-8-10

I know this has been posted, but it absolutely owns:

http://www.bringonthecats.com/2010/6...-big-12-twelve

|Zach| · 06-08-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I know this has been posted, but it absolutely owns:

http://www.bringonthecats.com/2010/6...-big-12-twelve

Yes. ****ing hilarious.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-08-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp

Keitzman is on right now saying that switching conferences for academic reasons is extremely risky because all that Big10 grant/research money is going to suddenly "go away". Uh, yeah.

What an idiot.

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