Other Sports Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment - Page 136

Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

**buddha** · 06-08-2010, 10:22 AM

Wow...that's twisted logic, Wickedson. So it's really a "good" thing that KU has a ticket scandal. Right...got it!???

Bottom line here: KU has a $40 million capital debt going right now. It is leveraged to the hilt and then some. If they fall out of a BCS conference, it's OVER. They won't be able to generate the money they need for the debt service, let alone paying off that obligation.

The other thing is look at how freaking bloated KU's athletic department is? Their staff is way over paid and there are how many assistant and associate ADs there? Many of them are making in excess of $200K. What does KU think it is...TEXAS?

ArrowheadHawk · 06-08-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Is that really the selling point? Serious question.

Well not exactly. KU is not that great compared to the top teams in the big 12 but I think they are good enough that they could compete in other conferences.

vailpass · 06-08-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Basketball is more important because it's a larger revenue generator.

kepp · 06-08-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Which conference is going to want KU if they don't get KU basketball? What would that conference gain?

Yeah, that's a good point. Plus, basketball isn't the revenue sport that football is and an independent program probably couldn't support itself.

Pitt Gorilla · 06-08-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

Well not exactly. KU is not that great compared to the top teams in the big 12 but I think they are good enough that they could compete in other conferences.

Maybe they could compete. My question was about value added. Without basketball, what does a conference gain by taking KU?

Bambi · 06-08-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha

Wow...that's twisted logic, Wickedson. So it's really a "good" thing that KU has a ticket scandal. Right...got it!???

Bottom line here: KU has a $40 million capital debt going right now. It is leveraged to the hilt and then some. If they fall out of a BCS conference, it's OVER. They won't be able to generate the money they need for the debt service, let alone paying off that obligation.

The other thing is look at how freaking bloated KU's athletic department is? Their staff is way over paid and there are how many assistant and associate ADs there? Many of them are making in excess of $200K. What does KU think it is...TEXAS?

Of course it's not "a good thing".

My point is that only a few schools have this problem.

Missouri doesn't because it's tickets are never in demand, except maybe when they're playing KU.

**buddha** · 06-08-2010, 10:26 AM

None of them has anything to do with being competitive. It has to do with TVs, and academics.

Bambi · 06-08-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Is that really the selling point? Serious question.

Edit: Neither of you have suggested a conference that would take that deal. Does such a conference exist? If so, which one is it?

A conference that would take KU without BBAll?

Probably not. But there aren't many schools who would be accepted without their number one sport.

Maybe Texas, Florida, OSU.... then who?

**buddha** · 06-08-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Of course it's not "a good thing".

My point is that only a few schools have this problem.

Missouri doesn't because it's tickets are never in demand, except maybe when they're playing KU.

Yeah...the fact that we sold out the Cotton Bowl in record time really supports your point...

Even the douchebags in Texas were amazed by how strongly Missouri fans took over the event.

ArrowheadHawk · 06-08-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Maybe they could compete. My question was about value added. Without basketball, what does a conference gain by taking KU?

As a KU football season ticket holder I think it adds a lot of value but then again I'm a homer. But KU football has been on the rise and had the team not given up on Mangino last year they would have won a few more of those close games. I may be alone in this but I think Turner Gill is going to take this football team to new levels.

**buddha** · 06-08-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

As a KU football season ticket holder I think it adds a lot of value but then again I'm a homer. But KU football has been on the rise and had the team not given up on Mangino last year they would have won a few more of those close games. I may be alone in this but I think Turner Gill is going to take this football team to new levels.

AH...I do too. I think Gill was a great hire and I'm not a KU fan. However, KU fans have to realize that every time you switch coaches, it's going to take time for the new staff to install their systems and get the players they need. KU will have growing pains this year.

Titty Meat · 06-08-2010, 10:30 AM

Turner Gil is a ****ing joke theres a reason Nebraska didn't hire him and the guy can't even keep talent in the state.

ArrowheadHawk · 06-08-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha

None of them has anything to do with being competitive. It has to do with TVs, and academics.

Do Kansas City and Wichita markets not count for anything? Also KU is just fine in academics.

**buddha** · 06-08-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Turner Gil is a ****ing joke theres a reason Nebraska didn't hire him and the guy can't even keep talent in the state.

What kind of Nebraska fan would write that about one of their former great players? Really...that is lame beyond lame. Billay...are you 14 years old or something?

ArrowheadHawk · 06-08-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Turner Gil is a ****ing joke theres a reason Nebraska didn't hire him and the guy can't even keep talent in the state.

You're an idiot.

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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska. Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is. He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports. "We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about." The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on. The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement. http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html Last edited by Mr. Laz; 06-10-2010 at 02:57 PM..
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06-08-2010, 10:22 AM	#2026
buddha You may think you know... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Casino cash: $10006184	Wow...that's twisted logic, Wickedson. So it's really a "good" thing that KU has a ticket scandal. Right...got it!??? Bottom line here: KU has a $40 million capital debt going right now. It is leveraged to the hilt and then some. If they fall out of a BCS conference, it's OVER. They won't be able to generate the money they need for the debt service, let alone paying off that obligation. The other thing is look at how freaking bloated KU's athletic department is? Their staff is way over paid and there are how many assistant and associate ADs there? Many of them are making in excess of $200K. What does KU think it is...TEXAS?
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buddha You may think you know... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Casino cash: $10006184	None of them has anything to do with being competitive. It has to do with TVs, and academics.
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