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Old 04-30-2010, 08:41 PM  
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Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

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Old 06-07-2010, 10:48 PM   #1936
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...then the Big 12 should invite New Mexico, Louisville, Cincinnati, TCU, & Houston/Baylor/Rice/Memphis/Utah/TCU etc. If that happens, actually the conference is in better shape than before.
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:50 PM   #1937
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Please explain
It's all about basketball revenue. Since $15M > $18M, then $5M is exponentially greater.
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:53 PM   #1938
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It's all about basketball revenue. Since $15M > $18M, then $5M is exponentially greater.

Finally, someone that gets "it".
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:54 PM   #1939
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If Kansas joins the MWC, I'm killing myself. If they go independent in basketball (which won't happen) and MWC in football, I'm chopping off an arm. If Missouri and Nebraska go to the Big 10 and at least two teams from the Big East go too, then the Big 12 should invite New Mexico, Louisville, Cincinnati, UNLV/Nevada/Houston/Baylor/Rice/Memphis/Utah/TCU etc. If that happens, actually the conference is in better shape than before.

Kansas
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Kansas State

New Mexico
Louisville
Cincinnati
Colorado
Baylor
Utah
Nevada
TCU

A little uneven in football for the North and South, but you get the idea.
You are forgetting about the PAC10 also potentially invading the Big12.
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:57 PM   #1940
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You are forgetting about the PAC10 also potentially invading the Big12.
It doesn't sound like Texas wants to leave. That is a scenario assuming Texas says no to Pac 10, which if I was a betting man I would venture to say is a greater possibility. If you extend to New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, etc....those are some of the fastest growing states of their current size. They'll grow into their membership.
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If Kansas joins the MWC, I'm killing myself. If they go independent in basketball (which won't happen) and MWC in football, I'm chopping off an arm. If Missouri and Nebraska go to the Big 10 and at least two teams from the Big East go too, then the Big 12 should invite New Mexico, Louisville, Cincinnati, UNLV/Nevada/Houston/Baylor/Rice/Memphis/Utah/TCU etc. If that happens, actually the conference is in better shape than before.

Kansas
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Kansas State

New Mexico
Louisville
Cincinnati
Colorado
Baylor
Utah
Nevada
TCU

A little uneven in football for the North and South, but you get the idea.
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:58 PM   #1943
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If Kansas joins the MWC, I'm killing myself. If they go independent in basketball (which won't happen) and MWC in football, I'm chopping off an arm. If Missouri and Nebraska go to the Big 10 and at least two teams from the Big East go too, then the Big 12 should invite New Mexico, Louisville, Cincinnati, UNLV/Nevada/Houston/Baylor/Rice/Memphis/Utah/TCU etc. If that happens, actually the conference is in better shape than before.

Kansas
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Kansas State

New Mexico
Louisville
Cincinnati
Colorado
Baylor
Utah
Nevada
TCU

A little uneven in football for the North and South, but you get the idea.
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Old 06-08-2010, 12:56 AM   #1944
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Grand jury kept Perkins from Big 12 meetings

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/ju...g-12-meetings/



The Journal-World has learned that Kansas University Athletic Director Lew Perkins missed a portion of last week’s Big 12 meetings because he was testifying in Topeka before a federal grand jury regarding the university’s ticket scandal.

Perkins was not the target of the inquiry, sources who requested to remain anonymous said; rather, he was a subpoenaed witness representing the athletic department.

Grand juries, used most often in federal cases, convene to decide whether a prosecutor has enough evidence to proceed with a case. Those testifying before a grand jury are not accompanied by legal representation. Typically, the only people in the room are members of the grand jury, the prosecutor and the witness. The prosecutor asks most, if not all, of the questions and the grand jury decides whether to return an indictment. They are closed proceedings.

Four months after federal law officers began looking into allegations of ticket fraud in the Williams Fund and the university’s ticket office, the university hired a Wichita law firm to investigate the matter. Foulston Siefkin LLP found in its report that five employees and a consultant — none of whom now work for the athletic department — sold tickets for personal gain, costing the university anywhere from $1 million to

$3 million.

Jack Focht, one of the attorneys conducting the investigation, said he would not be surprised if the federal investigation uncovered greater losses.

“The federal government has the power of the grand jury subpoena, the FBI, the IRS, everybody else,” Focht said. “I had four, five attorneys and an audit team to look at records.”

Perkins was the center of attention at Big 12 meetings last Tuesday when he said of conference realignment talks, “This is serious, serious, serious stuff.”

Given the KU athletic director’s experience in the conference realignment arena, dating back to his days at University of Connecticut when the Big East lost three members, and given his calling attention to the gravity of the potential conference shakeup, his absence Wednesday from the meetings seemed odd. The explanation that he had a prior commitment seemed stranger still, given that he has made it clear he thinks protecting KU’s conference interests is his most pressing concern at the moment.

Perkins, when not testifying before the grand jury, kept in touch via phone with other members of the athletic department at the Big 12 meetings.

Conference realignment issues and the federal investigation into the ticket scam are not the only issues weighing on Perkins.

KU Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little has ordered an investigation of the school’s A.D. to see whether he violated any rules of ethics when exercise equipment from a vendor of KU Athletics was placed in his home. A former employee, William Dent, has said in published reports that the company that furnished the equipment was rewarded with better seats to KU men’s basketball games. Perkins, who went to Lawrence police to report that the former employee was attempting to blackmail him, reportedly paid $5,000 in April, more than three years after it was installed, for renting the equipment. Kansas ethics laws prohibit state employees from accepting many types of gifts.

If employed through June 30, 2011, Perkins reportedly will receive a $600,000 retention bonus, after taxes. His next retention bonus after that, also for $600,000, comes in 2013.
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This is ****ing hilarious.

http://www.bringonthecats.com/2010/6...-big-12-twelve

Behind closed doors at the Big 12's annual meetings, the boys got together to hash out the topics of the day. You know...important things like where we're going to hold the Women's Basketball tournament for the next three years.

Just kidding. Only Baylor cares about that.

Anyway, everyone knows that's not what was on everyone's mind. And, thankfully, through the power of 'multiple sources', we have a strong report of what happened when the gang got together in Kansas City this week.

Enjoy. It may be the last time this current group gets together for their usual shenanigans.

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Texas: I call this meeting to order. Today's agenda topic: Who stays and who goes. I'm looking for a quick vote. Obviously, I like bossing all of you around, so I'm in. Oklahoma?

Oklahoma: Hell, I'll stay. Do you really think I want to join the SEC or Pac-10? I still go into shell shock when a woman asks me if I have a Trojan on me, or if I walk past a store in the mall that sells 'Crocs'.

Oklahoma State: In, yo. I'm afraid if I take this game to LA, I may get shot.

Colorado: Staying. Unless the Pac-10 offers, and then I'll leave so fast there will be burn marks in the carpet. But they don't want me without you guys, so I'm probably still stuck with you assholes.

Missouri: Anyone know where the nearest U-Haul place is?

Texas: Jesus, can you be more obvious?

Missouri: What? Do you think I like being irrelevant? Do you think I like hoarding championships in ****ing Softball? And it's not even the cool softball where you drink and wear inappropriate t-shirts that say things like "Balls Going Deep". It's the lesbian kind of softball where half of the cars in the parking lot are pink Cadillacs, and the chicks that show up wear visors and Birkenstocks.

Kansas State: I'm not really into PC, but there's a lot wrong with what you just said...

Missouri: You know what? I don't care. I'm going to go the Big Ten, wipe my ass with piles of TV money, and spend my winters buried in lake effects snow.

Texas: Wiping your ass with money is awesome.

Missouri: So, yeah, I'm out. **** you, **** you, (points at Kansas) and double **** you.

Kansas: Well, that wasn't nice.

Texas: Alright, order...ORDER! Kansas State, what are you doing?

Kansas State: Are you kidding me? Do you think I want to join the Mountain West? In. A thousand times in.

Kansas: (Whispers to his attorney...) My lawyer says that it would be in my best interest to stay.

Kansas State: Your lawyer?

Kansas: At this point, I have the FBI and IRS so far up my ass that they've set up a branch office in my colon. So, I'm taking him wherever I go.

Kansas' Lawyer: No more questions.

Texas: What an embarrassment. Tech?

Texas Tech: In. I go where you go my liege.

Baylor: God spoke with me last night, and he said that I should form a conference with other like religious institutions supported by the Almighty himself. However, he said I had to fire Scott Drew because he's an Eddie Haskell-style prick of the highest order, and I said, "No." I like being good at basketball now. Also, those Oral Roberts kids creep me out. They're like a cult.

Iowa State: I will do anything to stay in this conference. Anything. I am not above handing out sexual favors, and I don't care who asks for it.

Texas: So if I ask you to have sex with a dirty hobo, you'll do it?

Iowa State: Absolutely. You can even tape it if you'd like. That would be a hundred times better than joining the MAC.

Texas: Alright, we'll put that on the agenda for tonight after dinner and drinks at Tomfooleries. Nebraska, what say you?

Nebraska: I am 100% committed to exploring all of my options.

Texas: Huh?

Nebraska: I am fully invested in this conference unless something better comes along.

Oklahoma: How does sitting on that fence feel?

Nebraska: It kind of chafes.

Texas: And, finally, I'm afraid to ask. A&M?

Texas A&M: I want to join the sex conference.

(Texas puts his face in his palms...)

Texas: Do you mean the SEC conference?

Texas A&M: Yeah, I want to join the sex conference.

Oklahoma: I think we should let him go.

Texas: We can't. The state legislature says he can't go anywhere without me.

(Texas A&M puts his mouth over the microphone in front of him on the table and tries to swallow it...)

Texas: Alright, so we've got ten stays, one go, and one guy who can't seem to figure out what he wants to do. Nebraska, what can we do to get you off of the fence?

Nebraska: Nothing really. Joining the Big Ten is appealing. I mean, it's like a time warp. Neither of us have really been relevant since the late 90's, so it will be kind of comforting to be amongst like-minded people. Michigan called me and invited me over for a 90210 and Melrose Place marathon.

Oklahoma: That's really sad.

Nebraska: Look, I want to be with other people who think time stopped after the late 90's. Do you know how much being me sucks right now? I haven't won a conference championship in ELEVEN years. Hell, even Kansas State over there has won a conference title since I have.

Kansas State: Kicked your ass too.

Nebraska: **** off. And my basketball program is an embarrassment. In the Big Ten, Sadler ball will be considered 'up tempo', and my waning baseball program will be one of the southern most schools, so I'll have a leg up there.

Texas: Everything you just said there makes me sad.

Nebraska: You're sad? The only reason I'm not sad is because my entire state has been on Prozac since Tom Osborne retired. Do you really think we like Pelini? The guy wears sweatshirts on the sideline. SWEATSHIRTS. The guys in the navy blue polo shirts at Wal-Mart that greet me when I walk in look and act more professional than he does.

Oklahoma: Have you considered therapy?

Iowa State: I know a guy...

Dan Beebe: Hey, guys, what's up?

Texas: Dan, go back to your computer, keep playing Minesweeper, and we'll call you when we're done.

Beebe: Sure thing, boss.

Texas Tech: That was kind of harsh, don't you think?

Texas: He should be thankful he still has a job. We used a cardboard cutout of him a few weeks ago at a function with a tape player attached to its back looping random, non-committal statements, and no one knew it wasn't him until Baylor tried to hand him a plate of barbecued chicken and it dropped to the floor.

Texas A&M: I ate that chicken.

Oklahoma: Of course you did.

Texas A&M: It tasked like chicken.

Kansas State: I just...nevermind.

Iowa State: You guys will take him with you and not me?

Texas: He brings more televisions than you do.

Iowa State: But he's reeruned!

Texas: He's not reeruned; he's just misunderstood. He hasn't always been this way.

Iowa State: He's pissing himself again. Am I misunderstanding that?

(Texas A&M smiles as the warm urine runs down his leg...)

Texas: (Looks at A&M...) Look, I can't defend you forever. At some point, you're going to need to snap out of this.

Texas Tech: I've always wondered what goes on inside his head.

(Texas A&M stares at the wall...)

(Dan Beebe lets out a shriek at his computer...)

Texas: Dan, don't worry. We all hit the mine from time to time.

Beebe: No, that's not it. The Pac-10 is going to offer six of you.

Kansas: Thank God! Screw you assholes!

Beebe: They don't want you.

Missouri: HA HA.

Kansas State: Suck it.

Beebe: They don't want you either.

Kansas State: Well, duh.

Texas Tech: Who do they want?

Beebe: Texas, A&M, Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Colorado.

Colorado: Oh happy daaaaaaayyyyyy!

Texas Tech: Thank you sire!

Oklahoma: I'm going to get sick...yep, here it comes.

(Oklahoma vomits...)

Oklahoma State: Shit. I'm gonna get shot.

Texas: Calm down, guys. We all want to stick around, right? Well, let's not jump the gun here. If we're all in this together, we'll stay. Nebraska, you in?

Nebraska: I'm firmly set on exploring all of my options.

Texas: Goddamnit. Make up your damn mind. Missouri?

Missouri: Kiss my ass.

Texas: Do either of you even have an offer from the Big Ten?

Missouri: It's just a technicality. I'll get one. Eventually.

Oklahoma: You sure you want to take that bet?

Missouri: I'd rather shoot for the moon than hang out with you assholes.

Texas: Alright, **** it. Enjoy Conference USA.

Colorado: Wait, we're not going to the Pac-10?

Texas: Not if we don't have to.

Colorado: Jesus Christ. I finally, through sheer dumb luck, get a shot at getting what I want, and you assholes start cock-blocking me. Screw all of you, I'm out of here.

Beebe: Wait, the Pac-10 said that they may take Baylor instead of you.

Colorado: SON OF A BITCH!!!

Texas: Alright, Colorado's back in. Nebraska, Missouri...it's on you now. You have until Friday to figure this out.

Nebraska: I will stay if you can promise me that the Big 12 Championship will be played in Kansas City at least every other year.

Texas: Let's not get unreasonable now.

Nebraska: Unreasonable? UNREASONABLE??? You take all of the money, get all of the good TV spots, and now you're getting the title game in the Jerrydome every year. And I'm being unreasonable?

Kansas State: You did kind of vote for the unequal revenue sharing when you were, you know, good at football. Ten years ago.

Oklahoma: Actually, it's been eleven years since they won the Big 12.

Kansas State: I stand corrected. You were good at football eleven years ago.

Nebraska: And you assholes wonder why I want to leave.

Texas: Calm down everyone. Tempers are starting to get in the way of reason. Let's just handle this calmly. Nebraska and Missouri, you have until next Friday to decide if you want to stay with us. If you don't, half of us will go to the Pac-10.

Colorado: It's like a nightmare, but I'm still awake...

Kansas: I literally did not see this coming.

Kansas State: So where do the rest of us go?

Texas: Well, I can put in a good word for you with the Mountain West or Big East.

Iowa State: What about me?

Texas: Have you ever considered trade school?

Kansas: You mean to tell me that my storied basketball program is going to slum in the Mountain West?

Oklahoma: Sorry, dude, but this is about football. And, to be honest, no one is going to party with a dude that's under Federal investigation.

Kansas: Point taken. It's Kansas State's fault.

Kansas State: What the?

Texas: Kansas, you really are an asshole. Everyone said you were, but I always gave you the benefit of the doubt. But, yeah, you really do suck.

Kansas State: THANK YOU!!!

Missouri: Ha ha!

Beebe: If anyone needs me, I'm going to head to the shitter.

Texas A&M: Me too. I'm going to the shitter for some head.

(Everyone stares blankly at A&M...)

Texas: I think we're done here. Everyone, we've got a week to figure this out. Go to your corners, make your calls, and we'll hash this out later. Nebraska and Missouri, the ball is in your court.
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Need proof of how dire the straits are in Lawrence?

Kansas' president is flat out asking Missouri and Nebraska to look out for them.

Kansas begs Nebraska to save the Big 12, for old time's sake

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf,246370

Even from afar, the ongoing, existential psychodrama in the Big 12 makes for fascinating viewing. Nebraska and Missouri must choose between an opportunity for a more lucrative future in the Big Ten and the stability of 100-year-old rivalries in the current Big 12; they must weigh that against Texas' incentives to either maintain its dominant status in the current alignment or take flight with the entire South Division en tow to the Pac-10. All of which must be sorted through and settled in a matter of days as the conference hangs in the balance.

Then there's Kansas, most prominent of the three North Division schools (along with Kansas State and Iowa State) virtually helpless to influence the chaos that threatens to cut them out of the most competitive, influential and profitable circles. Where most of the conference has options beyond a defunct Big 12 by virtue of their association with Texas or interest from other major leagues, the Jayhawks are a basketball power staring at a sobering future in the Mountain West.

In five years, that may not look as depressing from a football standpoint if the MWC is successful in parlaying the (still very hypothetical) additions of Boise State and a handful of Big 12 remainders into an automatic BCS bid of its own. At the moment, though, it seems clear to the KU brass that there is only one appropriate course of action, and that course is begging your friends to keep the band together:

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP)—Kansas chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little urged her Nebraska counterpart Monday to remain in the Big 12 and help avoid a potential calamity for the Jayhawks.
In an interview with The Associated Press, Gray-Little said she got no indication of what Harvey Perlman might recommend when he meets with Nebraska regents on Friday. She said she also planned to call Missouri chancellor Brady J. Deaton with the same message.
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"There are some universities that survive and thrive without a large athletic program," said Gray-Little. "I hope we don't have to test that out. ... Obviously, that would be a serious disappointment to our community."


Last week, in response to reporters wondering where a Big Ten offensive would leave KU, athletic director Lew Perkins asked them, "How do you know they [the Big Ten] haven't called us?" I believe Gray-Little has answered his question. (This couldn't have at a worse times for Perkins, the highest-pade AD in the country, who over the last six months has overseen a series of on-campus confrontations between the KU football and basketball teams; fired a winning football coach in controversial circumstances; a sprawling ticket-scalping scandal involving athletic department employees; a seven-month blackmail attempt by a former employee; and now, if things break against him, the loss of Kansas' BCS status – a significant factor, I presume, in underwriting his $4 million salary.)

Just to throw the contrast between the spheres of influence in the North and South divisions into stark relief, compare Kansas' resigned groveling to the aggressive politicking at Baylor to keep the Lone Star Four together at all costs, characterized publicly by new president Kenneth Starr and privately by university regent and Austin lobbyist Buddy Jones, who's lent his considerable skills on the effort to use Texas as leverage to displace Colorado from the Pac-10 short list in favor of his beloved Bears. The Dallas Morning News released excerpts of e-mails between Jones and Baylor supporters in the Texas legislature late Sunday night; it released a fuller version this afternoon that clearly demonstrates Jones and Co. have no intention of kissing any Big Red honches (emphasis added):

Wrote Jones: "We cannot let the other schools in Texas (A&M, U.T., Tech) leave the Big XII WITHOUT BAYLOR BEING INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE. Long and short – if U.T., A&M and Tech demand that any move to any other conference include ALL TEXAS BASED TEAMS from the Big XII, we are golden. We need to be in a PACKAGE DEAL!"
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Jones also points to Nebraska as being a key to the conference realignment. He opines that: "It's hard enough get the home teams to stick tight. But harder still to influence a bunch of corn shuckers."


That's Baylor talking, which just goes to show how little the relationships and influences have managed to cross divisional lines in the Big 12's 15-year existence. The only difference: Baylor's patron in the South likely has enough pull to bring the Bears along wherever it goes, however hapless they may be on the field, where Kansas' old Big Eight partner in the North may barely get into the Big Ten by itself, regardless of the Jayhawks' success on the hardwood. In conference expansion as in everything else, you know what they say: Location, location, location.


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Gray-Little planned to call Missouri too

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