Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment

[Mr. Laz]

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Metrolike

ND needs to stop being douchy and tell B10 what their plans are, so everything can be set in motion. This stupid deadline is a freaking charade.

apparently Notre Dame is trying to squeeze some academic things out of the Big 10 to join.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by frazod

It's debatable what Texas thinks of MU or KU, but I have no doubt Notre Dame absolutely doesn't give two shits about either one of them (or any other school).

The only schools Texas cares about are the ones found in Texas.

[luv]

Big 8 would have gone under without Texas.

[Mojo Jojo]

Originally Posted by kepp

So what if Texas and it's Big12 South cohorts all jump to the Pac10 and the Big10 invites never materialize for MU/NU? What about the Big12 grabbing TCU, and one other school (who?) and getting back to being the Big8?

You get a new conference...Grab teams from Conference USA...Houston, #4 TV market...Memphis, big TV market...Tulane, the New Orleans TV market...SMU, Dallas market. All schools in the same region, and then you go find two or four others looking for bigger TV deals.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Metrolike

The only schools Texas cares about are the ones found in Texas.

We're at least causing them bloating and discomfort.

[Sure-Oz]

Nick Wright had Dan Wetzel on and he just called him Dan Beebe twice to end the show #fail

[Pitt Gorilla]

Apparently, Kansans need to begin begging.

http://cjonline.com/sports/football/...ll_politicians

[chiefsnorth]

Originally Posted by Laz

here we go again...

once again, KU is a marginally BCS level conference type school. Meaning that they qualify to be in a BCS level conference but barely. You add a link to another school into the mix and KU isn't getting in.

1. adding another school into package deal means another split to the profit pie in which KU is barely bringing enough to begin with

2. football ... KU is a low level football program but has a top notch basketball program, with a storied history, to offset the football weakness. You add another school to that equation and it's screwed.

KU barely has enough to get into a BCS level conference
KSU isn't a BCS conference level school (financially)

add those 2 schools together and neither get in

If the Big 12 implodes then KSU is going to a mid-tier conference one way or another. The only thing is whether they drag KU down with them.

Even if KSU didnt exist, KU would not be getting into the Big 10. No football and no major media market. Basketball is nice but it's not on the same planet as football in terms of monetary value for the conference.
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[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by chiefsnorth

Even if KSU didnt exist, KU would not be getting into the Big 10. No football and no major media market. Basketball is nice but it's not on the same planet as football in terms of monetary value for the conference.
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you're entitled to your opinion

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Laz

here we go again...

once again, KU is a marginally BCS level conference type school. Meaning that they qualify to be in a BCS level conference but barely. You add a link to another school into the mix and KU isn't getting in.

1. adding another school into package deal means another split to the profit pie in which KU is barely bringing enough to begin with

2. football ... KU is a low level football program but has a top notch basketball program, with a storied history, to offset the football weakness. You add another school to that equation and it's screwed.

KU barely has enough to get into a BCS level conference
KSU isn't a BCS conference level school

add those 2 schools together and neither get in

If the Big 12 implodes then KSU is going to a mid-tier conference one way or another. The only thing is whether they drag KU down with them.

This has NOTHING to do with basketball. ZILCH. If it even had a fracture of a hair to do anything with BBall, NU wouldn't even be in the picture. They are THE worst B12 program, and one of the worst in the NCAA history. That should tell you how much that means to the equation. It's football and TV Market, of which ku adds, again, ZILCH.

I fully recognize this, as a KSU fan, and realize we might just be ****ed. However, it's not because of ku, their lack of appeal, and your shitty football history. It's because of KSU's shitty football history and our lack of National Football appeal. We are in the in a similar boat, but KSU isn't manning this Titanic. Your football program (or lack thereof) and lack of a TV market have steered you into this iceberg in the same way KSU will hit that same iceberg.

And laugh out loud at your KSU isn't a BCS conference level school comment. Again, this is football related, not basketball. Therefore, your suck is = to our suck

[KChiefs1]

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...70202/22395511

The latest scuttlebutt Monday morning has to do with Syracuse being the key to prying Notre Dame loose for the Big Ten.

If Missouri and Nebraska say yes to the Big Ten, I'm hearing that then either Pittsburgh or Rutgers would be paired with Syracuse to form an expanded eastern boundary of the new league. The key, apparently, is taking The 'Cuse into the Big Ten. The fit already looks good. Syracuse chancellor Nancy Cantor is a former chancellor at Illinois and provost at Michigan.

In this scenario, the addition of Syracuse collapses the Big East and potentially forces Notre Dame to find a conference home for its minor sports. Not to mention a conference home for football.

In other words, Notre Dame needs a compelling reason to join a league in football. I reported yesterday that if Notre Dame came to the Big Ten, that league's expansion might be capped at 12. That might not be the case now. The two biggest words to remember in this entire process is that it is always a "fluid situation."

Adding to the intrigue is that Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said Sunday that expansion could happen in stages.

If all of the above comes to pass, we'd be looking at two 16-team leagues (Pac-10, Big Ten), the collapse of the Big 12 and Big East and a whole lot of chaos.

Does the SEC react?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Apparently, Kansans need to begin begging.

http://cjonline.com/sports/football/...ll_politicians

"...just keep the baby out of the street!"/Boys in the Hood

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

This has NOTHING to do with basketball. ZILCH. If it even had a fracture of a hair to do anything with BBall, NU wouldn't even be in the picture. They are THE worst B12 program, and one of the worst in the NCAA history. That should tell you how much that means to the equation. It's football and TV Market, of which ku adds, again, ZILCH.

I fully recognize this, as a KSU fan, and realize we might just be ****ed. However, it's not because of ku, their lack of appeal, and your shitty football history. It's because of KSU's shitty football history and our lack of National Football appeal. We are in the in a similar boat, but KSU isn't manning this Titanic. Your football program (or lack thereof) and lack of a TV market have steered you into this iceberg in the same way KSU will hit that same iceberg.

And laugh out loud at your KSU isn't a BCS conference level school comment. Again, this is football related, not basketball. Therefore, your suck is = to our suck

whatever ...

KU is a Nationally relevant Basketball program ... top 5 all-time. It brings national exposure to the NCAA tourney.

Basketball IS relevant financially ... just not as much as football.

Besides ... KU does have a decent football program. It's been better than KSU in recent years.

Academically KU is also a solid school

KU's television market doesn't suck ... it's just not great

KU is marginally qualified in just about every category but not enough to have any other "issues" and still make it.

laugh all you want but if the Big 12 really does implode KSU is mid conference bound ... period. KU has an outside shot if they can get the board of regents to split KU/KSU.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Laz

whatever ...

KU is a Nationally relevant Basketball program ... top 5 all-time. It brings national exposure to the NCAA tourney.

Basketball IS relevant financially ... just not as much as football.

Besides ... KU does have a decent football program. It's been better than KSU in recent years.

Academically KU is also a solid school

KU's television market doesn't suck ... it's just not great

KU is marginally qualified in just about every category but not enough to have any other "issues" and still make it.

laugh all you want but if the Big 12 really does implode KSU is mid conference bound ... period. KU has an outside shot if they can get the board of regents to split KU/KSU.

It's not like KU has this "zilch TV market" like all you keep saying.

Kansas City is 31st. Not great but far from nothing.

KU dominates the Kansas City market.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Laz

whatever ...

KU is a Nationally relevant Basketball program ... top 5 all-time. It brings national exposure to the NCAA tourney.

Basketball IS relevant financially ... just not as much as football.

Besides ... KU does have a decent football program. It's been better than KSU in recent years.

Academically KU is also a solid school

KU's television market doesn't suck ... it's just not great

KU is marginally qualified in just about every category but not enough to have any other "issues" and still make it.

laugh all you want but if the Big 12 really does implode KSU is mid conference bound ... period. KU has an outside shot if they can get the board of regents to split KU/KSU.

KU sucks cawk nobody cares about KU outside of Kansas.