Other Sports Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment - Page 88

Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

**Bearcat** · 06-06-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

You can't separate market share from the equation; market share is one of the key factors. I'm sorry that KU fans are facing conference limbo, I can see this isn't sittint well with some KY people.
I don't mean to offen you, I'm looking at this from a Big10 point of view. It feels very strange to be letting any other schools in and I'm very interested in maintaining the look and feel of the conference.
Hell I still look at Penn State as the new kid on the block and deep down don't truly see them as Big 10.

Eh, you said "MU brings so much more to the Big 10 table than KU would it isn't even close," so I wanted to know how that was true... if St. Louis is that important to the BTN or a school that doesn't share its state with another D-I university, etc; so be it..... just own up to that. Whenever I see overall academic ratings, MU and KU are always close to each other... if there are specific things the Big 10 is looking for that MU does better, like research or whatever, then I'd be curious to know what those things are.

chiefsfan987 · 06-06-2010, 07:17 PM

Doesn't St. Louis already have the Big Ten network? If they do, then adding Missouri doesn't really add you much in terms of tv sets. If I'm the Big Ten I'd go east because you're really only adding the Kansas City market if you already have your network on tv's in St. Louis.

**DaKCMan AP** · 06-06-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

provided the MWC is elevated to BCS status

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Bambi · 06-06-2010, 07:20 PM

Regarding the profit margins for schools basketball vs football

http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/15/comm...sbiz/index.htm

"Together those schools had a combined $330.8 million in revenue during the 2004-05 school year, and $148.3 million in profits, even when including results from the 14 money-losing basketball programs involved in March Madness.

Based on those numbers, basketball is more of a sure money maker for schools than college football -- at least for the schools in the so-called six major conferences.

In fact, about half of the schools in this year's Big Dance come from the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac Ten and SEC. And these major conference schools account for 84 percent of the total revenue and about 97 percent of the total profit of all the schools in the tournament."

Bambi · 06-06-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan987

Doesn't St. Louis already have the Big Ten network? If they do, then adding Missouri doesn't really add you much in terms of tv sets. If I'm the Big Ten I'd go east because you're really only adding the Kansas City market if you already have your network on tv's in St. Louis.

They want it on the basic cable.

It's on some setups already but if MU joins they think they can most likely force all the cable companies to buy the BTN for their customers.

Bambi · 06-06-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Boise St., TCU, Utah, Kansas, BYU, Kansas St.

Aren't there already 3 BCS winners in there? Why wouldn't they raise it up?

**DeezNutz** · 06-06-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Boise St., TCU, Utah, Kansas, BYU, Kansas St.

History awaits.

**DaKCMan AP** · 06-06-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Boise St., TCU, Utah, Kansas, BYU, Kansas St.

Aren't there already 3 BCS winners in there? Why wouldn't they raise it up?

Why would they? There's not reason to, especially with the other major conferences getting more concentrated.

Bambi · 06-06-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Why would they? There's not reason to, especially with the other major conferences getting more concentrated.

I dunno, to shut up Orrin Hatch?

Bambi · 06-06-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

History awaits.

That's fair.

We have "win something, ANYTHING" and you have "history awaits"...

**luv** · 06-06-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

ya, that's it.

i think DJ's right nut also contained the brain.

Sorry DJ, but this was friggin' hilarious.

**DeezNutz** · 06-06-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

That's fair.

We have "win something, ANYTHING" and you have "history awaits"...

Anything? Ok.

The Big XII North, which you might NEVER win. Ever. Eternity. Now go tell Texas who your daddy is.

kstater · 06-06-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Why would they? There's not reason to, especially with the other major conferences getting more concentrated.

The MWC is pretty close to earning an automatic BCS bid without the theoretical addition of current BCS institutions. I don't think it's a stretch to see it becoming a permanent auto bid with those schools.

vailpass · 06-06-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Eh, you said "MU brings so much more to the Big 10 table than KU would it isn't even close," so I wanted to know how that was true... if St. Louis is that important to the BTN or a school that doesn't share its state with another D-I university, etc; so be it..... just own up to that. Whenever I see overall academic ratings, MU and KU are always close to each other... if there are specific things the Big 10 is looking for that MU does better, like research or whatever, then I'd be curious to know what those things are.

MU brings a lot more BTN market share potential, sorry I wasn't clear on that.

IIRC Both schools are members of the AAU.

**DaKCMan AP** · 06-06-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

The MWC is pretty close to earning an automatic BCS bid without the theoretical addition of current BCS institutions. I don't think it's a stretch to see it becoming a permanent auto bid with those schools.

Source?

04-30-2010, 08:41 PM
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska. Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is. He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports. "We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about." The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on. The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement. http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html Last edited by Mr. Laz; 06-10-2010 at 02:57 PM..
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chiefsfan987 MVP Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Casino cash: $8048441	Doesn't St. Louis already have the Big Ten network? If they do, then adding Missouri doesn't really add you much in terms of tv sets. If I'm the Big Ten I'd go east because you're really only adding the Kansas City market if you already have your network on tv's in St. Louis.
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Bambi Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York City Casino cash: $10036993	Regarding the profit margins for schools basketball vs football http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/15/comm...sbiz/index.htm "Together those schools had a combined $330.8 million in revenue during the 2004-05 school year, and $148.3 million in profits, even when including results from the 14 money-losing basketball programs involved in March Madness. Based on those numbers, basketball is more of a sure money maker for schools than college football -- at least for the schools in the so-called six major conferences. In fact, about half of the schools in this year's Big Dance come from the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac Ten and SEC. And these major conference schools account for 84 percent of the total revenue and about 97 percent of the total profit of all the schools in the tournament."
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