Other Sports Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment - Page 76

Mr. Laz · 02:57 PM

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

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**Bowser** · 06-05-2010, 12:57 PM

Texas is the lifeblood of the Big XII. If they decide to pull up stakes, the Big XII will fold, simple as that. And that statement isn't a reflection on anything any of the other schools bring to the table.

**Bugeater** · 06-05-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Texas is the lifeblood of the Big XII. If they decide to pull up stakes, the Big XII will fold, simple as that. And that statement isn't a reflection on anything any of the other schools bring to the table.

No question about it, but I don't see them being the first, or even the second, to leave. I think they'll hold out hope of the Big XII surviving since they pretty much run the conference. That won't happen if they go to the Pac-10.

**Saul Good** · 06-05-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Not true, they both have a lot to offer. I am just baffled as to where some of these comments are coming from. I don't get how me saying that Nebraska is the key to whether the Big XII survives or not equates to me saying Nebraska is superior to Mizzou or that Mizzou should care what the rest of the Big XII thinks.

I don't get how you can say that Nebraska is the key. If your point is that the league could survive losing just Mizzou, then the same point would stand regarding losing just Nebraska.

Overall, the league would much rather lose the Nebraska market than the Missouri market. These television contracts pay based on the number of people in the viewing area.

**Saul Good** · 06-05-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Nebraska football carries 10x the cache MU football does on a national basis, that counts.

Counts towards what? Is that somehow factored into the television contracts, some sort of cache multiplier?

**Bowser** · 06-05-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

No question about it, but I don't see them being the first, or even the second, to leave. I think they'll hold out hope of the Big XII surviving since they pretty much run the conference. That won't happen if they go to the Pac-10.

I'm late to the thread, but isn't Texas working on its own TV network, which would broadcast most Big XII games, not just their own? That would be an economic windfall for them, and most likely reason not to leave. But, if that idea falls through (or they get a can't refuse offer).....

**Bugeater** · 06-05-2010, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I don't get how you can say that Nebraska is the key. If your point is that the league could survive losing just Mizzou, then the same point would stand regarding losing just Nebraska.

Overall, the league would much rather lose the Nebraska market than the Missouri market. These television contracts pay based on the number of people in the viewing area.

I've said multiple times that the league isn't going to be in trouble unless BOTH TEAMS leave. I don't know how I can be any more clear about that. I'm working under the assumption that MU leaving is a foregone conclusion, and whether or not NU follows is the key to the future of the Big XII.

I simply do not see NU leaving on their own.

Pants · 06-05-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I don't get how you can say that Nebraska is the key. If your point is that the league could survive losing just Mizzou, then the same point would stand regarding losing just Nebraska.

Overall, the league would much rather lose the Nebraska market than the Missouri market. These television contracts pay based on the number of people in the viewing area.

You do realize that Nebraska had 10 games on national television last year, right? There is no Big 12 network, so I don't see how any of the "markets" you're talking about even apply to this. MU market will matter when they go to the B10, a conference with an actual network.

**Bugeater** · 06-05-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

I'm late to the thread, but isn't Texas working on its own TV network, which would broadcast most Big XII games, not just their own? That would be an economic windfall for them, and most likely reason not to leave. But, if that idea falls through (or they get a can't refuse offer).....

That's pretty much the way I see it. They'd love to have their own network, but the question is, is it going to be viable if the the only other major power in the conference is OU? They need to decide if having more control of a weaker Big XII is going to be more beneficial to them than being a part of a major conference. I'd be really surprised if they went that route, but they might just be arrogant enough to give it a go.

**007** · 06-05-2010, 01:37 PM

Here is my question, with the Big 10s inability to count correctly, will they still call it the Big 10 when and if they expand to 16?

**Bowser** · 06-05-2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Here is my question, with the Big 10s inability to count correctly, will they still call it the Big 10 when and if they expand to 16?

It will be officially known as the Big Bunch of Schools Here Conference.

vailpass · 06-05-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Counts towards what? Is that somehow factored into the television contracts, some sort of cache multiplier?

It factors into the awarding of bowl bids and tv viewership.

**Saul Good** · 06-05-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

It factors into the awarding of bowl bids and tv viewership.

SMU must draw some major ratings, then. They have a lot of history.

**Saul Good** · 06-05-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

I've said multiple times that the league isn't going to be in trouble unless BOTH TEAMS leave. I don't know how I can be any more clear about that. I'm working under the assumption that MU leaving is a foregone conclusion, and whether or not NU follows is the key to the future of the Big XII.

I simply do not see NU leaving on their own.

That is reasonable, but that is different than saying that what Missouri does makes no difference. I would postulate that Colorado holds a much bigger hammer than Nebraska, though. If Missouri leaves, I think Colorado bolts as well. Then the league is pretty well cooked, as they would have lost every major market outside of Texas.

**Saul Good** · 06-05-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Here is my question, with the Big 10s inability to count correctly, will they still call it the Big 10 when and if they expand to 16?

I don't think so. The Big 15 seems most likely.

vailpass · 06-05-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

SMU must draw some major ratings, then. They have a lot of history.

I can see you are emotionally invested in this; I'm not saying anything negative about MU.

I would be glad to have Nebraska football joining the Big10 and I would welcome the Missouri athletic and academic package with open arms as well, both would be quality additions.

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