Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment

[Mr. Laz]

A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

http://www.wndu.com/sports/headlines/92447574.html

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Metrolike

When basketball is a national brand, it matters a lot. Ask Duke, Kansas, NC and Kentucky. KU AD generates a lot more money than MU even though our football has been absolute shit. Of course the bluebloods in football make a shit ton more money than bluebloods in basketball do, but I assure you, MU football vs KU basketball has nothing to do with the B10 invite.

It doesn't mean much. Basketball is a drop in the bucket on the overall landscape of college athletics. Football drives the bus.

That said, Kansas has 1 championship in the last 20+ years. Let's not put them up there with Duke, North Carolina, and Kentucky in terms of overall standing.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by Braincase

If you had a choice between getting your ass beat for 8 million a year and getting your ass beat for 22 million a year, by all means, take the money. The primary fact still remains... you're getting your ass beat regardless of who's doin' the beating.

You sound bitter. And extremely basketball-centric.

There's no reason to be nasty about it, BC. Kansas would be just as thrilled at the opportunity if they were in the mix.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Metrolike

I have to admit that the school is going to be better off no matter what happens to their AD, though. I don't think Deaton cares one bit that their football (or any other sport for that matter) might suffer.

Yeah, most schools suffer athletically after getting tens of millions of dollars pumped into their coffers. Nobody wants to play for a school with top of the line facilities, especially when they have to play all of their games on television.

[KcMizzou]

Also, you claim we're the Big XII whipping boy now... and we'll be the Big 10 whipping boy if/when we join them. So, there's nothing to lose and a lot to gain, right?

[Braincase]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

You sound bitter. And extremely basketball-centric.

There's no reason to be nasty about it, BC. Kansas would be just as thrilled at the opportunity if they were in the mix.

I doubt my bitterness or KU's bitterness has anything to do with it. I think it has much more to do with Mizzou getting passed over for the Orange Bowl, and somebody somewhere (Lew Perkins?) getting Iowa State a more lucrative football bowl than Mizzou.

Alden is getting tired of getting out-maneuvered by every other AD in the Big 12, so he's gonna take the Mizzou ball and go play in another backyard. Why would I be bitter? KU will be fine, and will continue to compete for National Championships in basketball, and will be competitive in football. The rest is of little consequence.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

You sound bitter. And extremely basketball-centric.

There's no reason to be nasty about it, BC. Kansas would be just as thrilled at the opportunity if they were in the mix.

That's a Kansas fan for you. They think that basketball matters.

Let's put it this way: There is no such thing as a "basketball school" that has a solid football program. Every school with a solid football program is a "football school". "Basketball school" is just another way of saying that your football team sucks.

Ask Florida if they are a "basketball school". Ask Ohio State if they are a "basketball school". Ask Texas or Tennessee or Oklahoma or any other school who has had success in both sports if they are "basketball schools", and you'll get laughed out of the room.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Yeah, most schools suffer athletically after getting tens of millions of dollars pumped into their coffers. Nobody wants to play for a school with top of the line facilities, especially when they have to play all of their games on television.

You do realize that you will lose pretty much all exposure to Texas kids who happen to be your driving force, right?

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by Braincase

I doubt my bitterness or KU's bitterness has anything to do with it. I think it has much more to do with Mizzou getting passed over for the Orange Bowl, and somebody somewhere (Lew Perkins?) getting Iowa State a more lucrative football bowl than Mizzou.

Alden is getting tired of getting out-maneuvered by every other AD in the Big 12, so he's gonna take the Mizzou ball and go play in another backyard. Why would I be bitter? KU will be fine, and will continue to compete for National Championships in basketball, and will be competitive in football. The rest is of little consequence.

If those things had never happened, and the offer was made... Mizzou would still be stupid to pass it up.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's a Kansas fan for you. They think that basketball matters.

Let's put it this way: There is no such thing as a "basketball school" that has a solid football program. Every school with a solid football program is a "football school". "Basketball school" is just another way of saying that your football team sucks.

Ask Florida if they are a "basketball school". Ask Ohio State if they are a "basketball school". Ask Texas or Tennessee or Oklahoma or any other school who has had success in both sports if they are "basketball schools", and you'll get laughed out of the room.

And then, of course, you have schools who are "whichever sport finishes in the top 6 in conference school". Please, let's not start measuring dicks here because yours will be much smaller.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Braincase

I doubt my bitterness or KU's bitterness has anything to do with it. I think it has much more to do with Mizzou getting passed over for the Orange Bowl, and somebody somewhere (Lew Perkins?) getting Iowa State a more lucrative football bowl than Mizzou.

Alden is getting tired of getting out-maneuvered by every other AD in the Big 12, so he's gonna take the Mizzou ball and go play in another backyard. Why would I be bitter? KU will be fine, and will continue to compete for National Championships in basketball, and will be competitive in football. The rest is of little consequence.

You honestly think the Houston Bowl is the reason MU's going to the Big 10?

Re-read what you just wrote. Then re-read this thread and all the facts contained therein.

You think MU is leaving for the Big 10 and the tens of millions of dollars that move will yield then because of a couple of Bowl games?

A fan of the squad that just underwent a national embarassment in firing its football coach is calling out MU for "being out-maneuvered by every AD in the Big 12" and then claims not to be bitter.

Be honest - you wish it were you. You'd be ecstatic if KU got an invite.

Chin up, Beaker.

[Saul Good]

Missouri is the "whipping boy" in the Big XII, but Kansas is "competitive in football".

October 10 Iowa State W 41-36 (1-0)
October 17 at Colorado L 34-30 (1-1)
October 24 Oklahoma L 35-13 (1-2)
October 31 at Texas Tech L 42-21 (1-3)
November 7 at Kansas St L 17-10 (1-4)
November 14 Nebraska L 31-17 (1-5)
November 21 at No. 3 Texas L 51-20 (1-6)
November 28 vs. Missouri L 41-39 (1-7)

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Metrolike

You do realize that you will lose pretty much all exposure to Texas kids who happen to be your driving force, right?

We won't get exposure when every game is televised?

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

It doesn't mean much. Basketball is a drop in the bucket on the overall landscape of college athletics. Football drives the bus.

That said, Kansas has 1 championship in the last 20+ years. Let's not put them up there with Duke, North Carolina, and Kentucky in terms of overall standing.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. UK has been pretty much IRRELEVANT for the last 12 years. They hired Calipari and came back to prominence last year. UNC just got done playing in the ****ing NIT (yes, they have 2 NC's in the past 5 years, talk to me in 2013 to see if KU will have matched that). Duke has been pretty solid but was also teetering on the edge of obscurity until this year.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Metrolike

And then, of course, you have schools who are "whichever sport finishes in the top 6 in conference school". Please, let's not start measuring dicks here because yours will be much smaller.

Either you're a football school, or you're a ping-pong school. Unless you're Duke and have 5 NCs in the past 20 years or whatever they have, it really doesn't matter.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

We won't get exposure when every game is televised?

It's not going to be televised in Texas you stupid ****ing monkey. Where do you think the Big 10 Network is shown?