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2010 NFL Offseason: Kansas City Chiefs

Draft Grades, Season Previews, Offseason Needs, Free Agents

Kansas City Chiefs (Last Year: 4-12)

2010 NFL Draft Grades:

5. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
Eric Berry's probably going to be a stud, but taking a safety in the top five is a very questionable move. (Pick Grade: B)

36. Dexter McCluster, RB/WR/KR, Ole Miss
Dexter McCluster is a luxury pick. If some team with few needs wanted to take him in Round 2, that would have been fine. The Chiefs don't have that luxury because of all of their primary needs. (Pick Grade: C)

50. Javier Arenas, CB/KR, Alabama
The Chiefs just drafted a nickel corner and kick returner when they still have issues with quarterback protection and pass rush. Not a good weekend to be a Chiefs fan. (Pick Grade: C)

68. Jon Asamoah, G, Illinois

I'm going to ignore the whole Branden Albert issue here because Jon Asamoah is a skilled second-round prospect. Many had him as the No. 2 guard. The Chiefs had to improve the offensive line. (Pick Grade: A)

93. Tony Moeaki, TE, Iowa
I'm a big Tony Moeaki fan - as long as he stays healthy. It always seemed like he was injured at Iowa. If he can stay on the field, he should be a great weapon for Matt Cassel. (Pick Grade: B)

136. Kendrick Lewis, FS, Ole Miss

A reach, but that doesn't matter much in Round 5. Kendrick Lewis fills a need, so this makes sense. (Pick Grade: C)

142. Cameron Sheffield, DE/OLB, Troy
Cameron Sheffield is a quality value here and fills a major position of need. The Chiefs have not been able to get to the quarterback for years. (Pick Grade: B)

Key Undrafted Free Agents:
# Nathan Ivey, NT, Maryland
# Bill Stull, QB, Pittsburgh





Season Summary:
I think most of us can now confirm that handing out $63 million to noodle-armed quarterbacks doesn't work. Sadly, there are some who will still argue this. But just imagine if the Chiefs just selected Mark Sanchez at No. 3 overall and used their second-round choice on someone like Ziggy Hood (would have to trade up a few spots) or Rey Maualuga. You can say hindsight is 20-20, but several people actually mocked these players to Kansas City back in January.






Offseason Moves:
# Chiefs re-sign ILB Corey Mays
# Chiefs re-sign QB Brodie Croyle
# Chiefs re-sign OT Ryan O'Callaghan
# Chiefs re-sign C Rudy Niswanger
# Chiefs re-sign OT Barry Richardson
# Chiefs re-sign CB Maurice Leggett
# Chiefs re-sign FB Mike Cox
# Chiefs re-sign ILB Derrick Johnson
# Chiefs announce retirement of QB Quinn Gray
# Chiefs sign G Ryan Lilja
# Chiefs sign C Casey Wiegmann
# Chiefs sign WR Jerheme Urban
# Texans sign G/C Wade Smith
# Chiefs sign DE/DT Shaun Smith
# Chiefs sign RB Thomas Jones
# Chiefs re-sign WR Chris Chambers
# Colts sign G/C Andy Alleman
# Chiefs tender RB Jackie Battle
# Chiefs tender S Jarrad Page
# Chiefs re-sign DE/OLB Mike Vrabel
# Chiefs cut G Mike Goff
# Chiefs re-sign QB Matt Gutierrez
# Chiefs re-sign RB Kolby Smith


Offseason Needs:

1. Left Tackle: Branden Albert didn't allow a sack in his final six games, so one would think that he really improved toward the end of the season. However, that's an incorrect assumption. Albert still allowed lots of pressures; his sack total was simply down because Matt Cassel released the ball quicker or just handed it off to Jamaal Charles. The left tackle position is still in desperate need of an upgrade, so Russell Okung is the likely pick at No. 5. Albert would then play guard, which would give the Chiefs two upgrades for the price of one.

2. Quarterback: This need obviously won't be addressed anytime soon because Matt Cassel is somehow the third-highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Think about that one for a second.

3. Nose Tackle: Ron Edwards is not a starting-caliber nose tackle. Terrence Cody and Cam Thomas will be considered atop Round 2 of the 2010 NFL Draft. Signed Shaun Smith

4. Rush Linebacker: The Chiefs had just 22 sacks in 2009, and 8.5 of them came from Tamba Hali. A pass-rusher might be added in the early rounds this April.

5. Center: Even when Kansas City's offensive line improved toward the end of the 2009 season, the center position was still a glaring weakness. An early pick will be used to upgrade Rudy Niswanger. Also, the addition of Russell Okung would push Brian Waters from guard to center. Make that three upgrades for the price of one. The No. 5 overall selection must be Okung. Signed Casey Wiegmann

6. No. 2 Wide Receiver: Chris Chambers was impressive last year since joining the Chiefs, but was likely just playing for a contract. I would not feel comfortable with Chambers as my No. 2 wideout. A receiver could be drafted in Rounds 3-4 this April. Re-signed Chris Chambers

7. Strong Safety: It was imperative that the Chiefs cut Bernard Pollard; he was too talented for their defense and room had to be made for veteran Mike Brown.

8. Free Safety: Can the Chiefs really go with the tandem of Jon McGraw, Jarrad Page and DaJuan Morgan at free safety again in 2010?

9. Defensive End: Despite all of the resources the Chiefs have used to upgrade their defensive line, they are still really hurting up front. Glenn Dorsey is a poor fit for the 3-4; Tyson Jackson had a horrible rookie campaign; and Alex Magee barely played. Kansas City will likely allow Dorsey, Jackson and Magee to grow together for another year, but it's not looking good at the moment.

10. Inside Linebacker: Position No. 439,129,695,238 that needs to be upgraded. Demorrio Williams and Corey Mays starting over Derrick Johnson? Seriously?

11. Right Guard: If the Chiefs take Russell Okung, they can move Branden Albert into this position (though he'll probably go to left guard, and Brian Waters would move to center). Signed Ryan Lilja

12. Slot Receiver: Lance Long and Bobby Wade aren't the answer in the slot. Signed Jerheme Urban

13. Return Specialist: Jamaal Charles won't be returning kicks anymore. Bobby Wade also needs to be upgraded as the punt-returner.

14. Cornerback Depth: Yep, this is needed too.

15. Power Running Back: Someone to complement the electrifying Jamaal Charles could be taken in the later rounds of the 2010 NFL Draft. Signed Thomas Jones

2010 NFL Free Agent Signings:

1. Thomas Jones, RB, Jets. Age: 32.
Signed with Chiefs (2 years, $5 million)

Thomas Jones would be a quality signing for one year. However, he's 32 and wore down at the end of last season. The tank is nearing empty.

2. Ryan Lilja, G, Colts. Age: 28. -- Signed with Chiefs (3 years)
3. Casey Wiegmann, C, Broncos. Age: 37. -- Signed with Chiefs (1 year)
4. Jerheme Urban (RFA), WR, Cardinals. Age: 29. -- Signed with Chiefs




Kansas City Chiefs Free Agents:

Salary Cap (As of Jan. 16): No cap.

1. Derrick Johnson (RFA), ILB, Chiefs. Age: 27.
Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $2.6 million)

Derrick Johnson started only three games in 2009 because he was too talented for Todd Haley's defense. Johnson has absolutely no chance of starting in 2010 after his two pick-sixes against the Broncos in the season finale.

2. Ryan O'Callaghan (RFA), OT, Chiefs. Age: 27.
Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $1.7 million)

Ryan O'Callaghan played very well down the stretch, but I'm not overly confident that he's the long-term answer at right tackle for the Chiefs.

3. Chris Chambers, WR, Chiefs. Age: 32.
Re-signed with Chiefs (3 years, $15 million; $5.9 million guaranteed)

Being cut by the Chargers served as a wake-up call for Chris Chambers, who eclipsed the 70-yard barrier five times in nine games with the Chiefs. Having said that, I wouldn't be able to trust Chambers with a new contract.

4. Corey Mays (RFA), ILB, Chiefs. Age: 26.
Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $1.7 million)

A backup inside linebacker pushed into the starting lineup because of the front office's ineptness, Corey Mays really struggles against the run.

5. Wade Smith, G/C, Chiefs. Age: 29.
Signed with Texans (4 years, $12 million; $6.25 million guaranteed)

Wade Smith played well down the stretch. He can fill in at both guard and center.

6. Mike Vrabel, DE/OLB, Chiefs. Age: 35.
Re-signed with Chiefs

It's sad to see Mike Vrabel decline like this. Vrabel had just two sacks in 2009, but was still effective against the run.

7. Brodie Croyle (RFA), QB, Chiefs. Age: 27.
Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $1.7 million)

I'm not sure if Brodie Croyle isn't the best quarterback on the Chiefs. That's how mediocre Matt Cassel is.

8. Mike Cox (ERFA), RB, Chiefs. Age: 25. -- Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year)
9. Jarrad Page (RFA), FS, Chiefs. Age: 25. -- Tendered by Chiefs (2nd round)
10. Rudy Niswanger (RFA), C, Chiefs. Age: 27. -- Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $1.7 million)
11. Maurice Leggett (ERFA), CB, Chiefs. Age: 23. -- Re-signed with Chiefs
12. Andy Studebaker (RFA), DE/OLB, Chiefs. Age: 24. -- Re-signed with Chiefs
13. Bobby Wade, WR, Chiefs. Age: 29.
14. Mike Goff, G, Chiefs. Age: 34.
15. Andy Alleman (ERFA), G, Chiefs. Age: 26. - Signed with Colts
16. Barry Richardson (ERFA), OT, Chiefs. Age: 24. -- Re-signed with Chiefs
17. Kolby Smith (ERFA), RB, Chiefs. Age: 25. -- Re-signed with Chiefs
18. Matt Gutierrez (ERFA), QB, Chiefs. Age: 26. -- Re-signed with Chiefs
19. Jackie Battle (ERFA), RB, Chiefs. Age: 26. -- Tendered by Chiefs
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i dont get the comparison. why should people on food stamps eat better than most? what does that have to do with dexter mccluster?
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You're again talking about a need-based draft. You take the best on your board, period.

And yes, for this to be a good pick, he needs to get around 800+ all-purpose yards (not including return yards).

And how do you define "need"? Maybe Weis' version of a need is different from ours. Case-in-point, how many people here are bitching about the Moeaki pick in favor of one-dimensional pass catchers, even if that's not the type of tight end Weis wants.

And by the way, guarantee that most of the players we're bitching about passing up on are going to be average rotational players at the very best.
I agree; tons of short passes and a lot of running coming out this offense in 2010. McCluster will probably do for Shat Casshole what Washington was doing for Sanchez prior to his injury.

Charlie's no fool:

He's knows he has a turd at QB, and he's going to try and polish that POS as best he can to avoid getting ass-canned at the end of the season.
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All the dumbasses that think that Koa Misi or Daryl Washington wouldn't have been playmakers for the worst defense in the NFL, raise your hand.



The rationalization around here is ****ing priceless.
3-4 OLBs are one of the most important pieces of a defense. You don't let them slip that far into the second round if they're playmakers. MIsi is an average sack guy and a below average run defender right now. Let's not pretend that he's anything close to a playmaker today (maybe potentially, but today? Not even close).

And Daryl Washington plays 3-4 ILB. I argued against Curry last year and I'll argue against ILBs this year. It's something we should get better at, but on this defense, I believe it's very low priority. If your defensive line does their job, a 3-4 ILB's job becomes very easy.
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That isn't what Pioli did. In his interview didn't he say they had 3 guys pegged for the 2(a) pick and went with the player they thought had the smallest chance of making it to 50?
Very true. Good callout.

It's still practically a BPA type strategy. Basically a tiebreaker, with positional/board value tied in.
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YOU specifically pushed for us to reach for Maclin last year at the 3rd OVERALL PICK because he is a playmaker, but are somehow pissed that we took DMC in the second round?

WTF, really?

You are one of the guys I like on this site and one of the first I sent a friends request to because I generally agree with most of your takes, but man this should have been a draft you supported IMO by your reasoning in the past and leading up to the draft. It does appear that your hatred for Pioli clouds your reasoning and objectivity concerning your reaction to this draft.

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All the dumbasses that think that Koa Misi or Daryl Washington wouldn't have been playmakers for the worst defense in the NFL, raise your hand.



The rationalization around here is ****ing priceless.
hahahahaha

You do know that Koa Misis best year (he played 4 years) he had like 5 sacks right?

Im just assuming you know that.

For all the "you can get ilbs in the later rounds" before the draft WE ALL KNOW how a pick of Daryl Washington would have gone over.

Id take DMC over any of the guys you listed at #36.

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1. Agreed, Brodie has put on some weight and is not so fragile. He may be the best look for 2010, or maybe even the the other matt lol. pay cassel who has 1 season of decent plan, dont pay jared allen leading sacks continue on viks. i woulda brought back cassey printers with these clowns
2. I think getting rid of Bradley was a mistake, true he didnt do much this year but look at last year has the ability to throw run and catch, need all around players, he has best game of year, and looked like a promising returner then they release him.
3.Johnson should be number 1, never should have gotten pushed down the charts.
4. Pollard that was stupid, cut the leading tackler of 2008, mike brown enough said.
5. wth happened to turk and tank
6. lance long is not wes welker, i was at first game remember when charges smashed us into the ground in the rain. he had three looks caught one dropped one in endzone, we where better off keepin engrims old behind as slot, copper looked good when he got on the field, but mainly served in spec. teams. pretty sure that toomer or lilie would have done better then lawrence.
7.TE wow what a year, i would cut um all glad we got good draft pic. Pope was a joke cottom has never fit right, remember Jason Dunn yeah the guy that always picked up lj in the endzone, well least he could block, or run yah over.
8. Flowers and Carr, think they can be solid with new cast around them. Flowers needs to stay off injury list. Id give leggett more play time honestly. page was good with pollard should step up game with berry. mcgraw should think about life after football though an incredible spec teams player. Morgan could use improvement but has potential.
9. why can i buy a Dorsey jersey and not a flowers, charles or page jersey. #1 draft pic or not, talent sells.
10. Hali can't say enough good things about the guy best all around player on team.
11. dbowe, keep the faith all, funny how people can turn on you for one average season. It was diet pills not performance enhans. who cares, really?
Debowe quote last year pregame show "put the ball in the playmakers hands" agreed! Chambers was a great steal, and i dont think the new contract will slow down his ability to be a deep ball threat.
12. Just wondering if anyone can answer for me, what happened to sammy knight. Once again we cut the people who play well and keep guys "who are a good fit."
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1. Agreed, Brodie has put on some weight and is not so fragile. He may be the best look for 2010, or maybe even the the other matt lol. pay cassel who has 1 season of decent plan, dont pay jared allen leading sacks continue on viks. i woulda brought back cassey printers with these clowns
2. I think getting rid of Bradley was a mistake, true he didnt do much this year but look at last year has the ability to throw run and catch, need all around players, he has best game of year, and looked like a promising returner then they release him.
3.Johnson should be number 1, never should have gotten pushed down the charts.
4. Pollard that was stupid, cut the leading tackler of 2008, mike brown enough said.
5. wth happened to turk and tank
6. lance long is not wes welker, i was at first game remember when charges smashed us into the ground in the rain. he had three looks caught one dropped one in endzone, we where better off keepin engrims old behind as slot, copper looked good when he got on the field, but mainly served in spec. teams. pretty sure that toomer or lilie would have done better then lawrence.
7.TE wow what a year, i would cut um all glad we got good draft pic. Pope was a joke cottom has never fit right, remember Jason Dunn yeah the guy that always picked up lj in the endzone, well least he could block, or run yah over.
8. Flowers and Carr, think they can be solid with new cast around them. Flowers needs to stay off injury list. Id give leggett more play time honestly. page was good with pollard should step up game with berry. mcgraw should think about life after football though an incredible spec teams player. Morgan could use improvement but has potential.
9. why can i buy a Dorsey jersey and not a flowers, charles or page jersey. #1 draft pic or not, talent sells.
10. Hali can't say enough good things about the guy best all around player on team.
11. dbowe, keep the faith all, funny how people can turn on you for one average season. It was diet pills not performance enhans. who cares, really?
Debowe quote last year pregame show "put the ball in the playmakers hands" agreed! Chambers was a great steal, and i dont think the new contract will slow down his ability to be a deep ball threat.
12. Just wondering if anyone can answer for me, what happened to sammy knight. Once again we cut the people who play well and keep guys "who are a good fit."
Brah, too many points to answer at one time.
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Where people bitch about people on food stamps eating steaks, but will defend Dexter McCluster to their dying breath.
ChiefsPlanet:

Where people work out and post what they ate, but will want to draft Koa Misi.


...wait we are making comparisons that make no sense right?
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Most people weren't.

Some were.
Specifically talking about the drafturbators.
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