Walter Football's KC Chiefs Draft Analysis

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-25-2010, 11:43 PM

2010 NFL Offseason: Kansas City Chiefs

Draft Grades, Season Previews, Offseason Needs, Free Agents

Kansas City Chiefs (Last Year: 4-12)

2010 NFL Draft Grades:

5. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
Eric Berry's probably going to be a stud, but taking a safety in the top five is a very questionable move. (Pick Grade: B)

36. Dexter McCluster, RB/WR/KR, Ole Miss
Dexter McCluster is a luxury pick. If some team with few needs wanted to take him in Round 2, that would have been fine. The Chiefs don't have that luxury because of all of their primary needs. (Pick Grade: C)

50. Javier Arenas, CB/KR, Alabama
The Chiefs just drafted a nickel corner and kick returner when they still have issues with quarterback protection and pass rush. Not a good weekend to be a Chiefs fan. (Pick Grade: C)

68. Jon Asamoah, G, Illinois
I'm going to ignore the whole Branden Albert issue here because Jon Asamoah is a skilled second-round prospect. Many had him as the No. 2 guard. The Chiefs had to improve the offensive line. (Pick Grade: A)

93. Tony Moeaki, TE, Iowa
I'm a big Tony Moeaki fan - as long as he stays healthy. It always seemed like he was injured at Iowa. If he can stay on the field, he should be a great weapon for Matt Cassel. (Pick Grade: B)

136. Kendrick Lewis, FS, Ole Miss
A reach, but that doesn't matter much in Round 5. Kendrick Lewis fills a need, so this makes sense. (Pick Grade: C)

142. Cameron Sheffield, DE/OLB, Troy
Cameron Sheffield is a quality value here and fills a major position of need. The Chiefs have not been able to get to the quarterback for years. (Pick Grade: B)

Key Undrafted Free Agents:
# Nathan Ivey, NT, Maryland
# Bill Stull, QB, Pittsburgh

Season Summary:
I think most of us can now confirm that handing out $63 million to noodle-armed quarterbacks doesn't work. Sadly, there are some who will still argue this. But just imagine if the Chiefs just selected Mark Sanchez at No. 3 overall and used their second-round choice on someone like Ziggy Hood (would have to trade up a few spots) or Rey Maualuga. You can say hindsight is 20-20, but several people actually mocked these players to Kansas City back in January.

Offseason Moves:
# Chiefs re-sign ILB Corey Mays
# Chiefs re-sign QB Brodie Croyle
# Chiefs re-sign OT Ryan O'Callaghan
# Chiefs re-sign C Rudy Niswanger
# Chiefs re-sign OT Barry Richardson
# Chiefs re-sign CB Maurice Leggett
# Chiefs re-sign FB Mike Cox
# Chiefs re-sign ILB Derrick Johnson
# Chiefs announce retirement of QB Quinn Gray
# Chiefs sign G Ryan Lilja
# Chiefs sign C Casey Wiegmann
# Chiefs sign WR Jerheme Urban
# Texans sign G/C Wade Smith
# Chiefs sign DE/DT Shaun Smith
# Chiefs sign RB Thomas Jones
# Chiefs re-sign WR Chris Chambers
# Colts sign G/C Andy Alleman
# Chiefs tender RB Jackie Battle
# Chiefs tender S Jarrad Page
# Chiefs re-sign DE/OLB Mike Vrabel
# Chiefs cut G Mike Goff
# Chiefs re-sign QB Matt Gutierrez
# Chiefs re-sign RB Kolby Smith

Offseason Needs:

1. Left Tackle: Branden Albert didn't allow a sack in his final six games, so one would think that he really improved toward the end of the season. However, that's an incorrect assumption. Albert still allowed lots of pressures; his sack total was simply down because Matt Cassel released the ball quicker or just handed it off to Jamaal Charles. The left tackle position is still in desperate need of an upgrade, so Russell Okung is the likely pick at No. 5. Albert would then play guard, which would give the Chiefs two upgrades for the price of one.

2. Quarterback: This need obviously won't be addressed anytime soon because Matt Cassel is somehow the third-highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Think about that one for a second.

3. Nose Tackle: Ron Edwards is not a starting-caliber nose tackle. Terrence Cody and Cam Thomas will be considered atop Round 2 of the 2010 NFL Draft. Signed Shaun Smith

4. Rush Linebacker: The Chiefs had just 22 sacks in 2009, and 8.5 of them came from Tamba Hali. A pass-rusher might be added in the early rounds this April.

5. Center: Even when Kansas City's offensive line improved toward the end of the 2009 season, the center position was still a glaring weakness. An early pick will be used to upgrade Rudy Niswanger. Also, the addition of Russell Okung would push Brian Waters from guard to center. Make that three upgrades for the price of one. The No. 5 overall selection must be Okung. Signed Casey Wiegmann

6. No. 2 Wide Receiver: Chris Chambers was impressive last year since joining the Chiefs, but was likely just playing for a contract. I would not feel comfortable with Chambers as my No. 2 wideout. A receiver could be drafted in Rounds 3-4 this April. Re-signed Chris Chambers

7. Strong Safety: It was imperative that the Chiefs cut Bernard Pollard; he was too talented for their defense and room had to be made for veteran Mike Brown.

8. Free Safety: Can the Chiefs really go with the tandem of Jon McGraw, Jarrad Page and DaJuan Morgan at free safety again in 2010?

9. Defensive End: Despite all of the resources the Chiefs have used to upgrade their defensive line, they are still really hurting up front. Glenn Dorsey is a poor fit for the 3-4; Tyson Jackson had a horrible rookie campaign; and Alex Magee barely played. Kansas City will likely allow Dorsey, Jackson and Magee to grow together for another year, but it's not looking good at the moment.

10. Inside Linebacker: Position No. 439,129,695,238 that needs to be upgraded. Demorrio Williams and Corey Mays starting over Derrick Johnson? Seriously?

11. Right Guard: If the Chiefs take Russell Okung, they can move Branden Albert into this position (though he'll probably go to left guard, and Brian Waters would move to center). Signed Ryan Lilja

12. Slot Receiver: Lance Long and Bobby Wade aren't the answer in the slot. Signed Jerheme Urban

13. Return Specialist: Jamaal Charles won't be returning kicks anymore. Bobby Wade also needs to be upgraded as the punt-returner.

14. Cornerback Depth: Yep, this is needed too.

15. Power Running Back: Someone to complement the electrifying Jamaal Charles could be taken in the later rounds of the 2010 NFL Draft. Signed Thomas Jones

2010 NFL Free Agent Signings:

1. Thomas Jones, RB, Jets. Age: 32.
Signed with Chiefs (2 years, $5 million)

Thomas Jones would be a quality signing for one year. However, he's 32 and wore down at the end of last season. The tank is nearing empty.

2. Ryan Lilja, G, Colts. Age: 28. -- Signed with Chiefs (3 years)
3. Casey Wiegmann, C, Broncos. Age: 37. -- Signed with Chiefs (1 year)
4. Jerheme Urban (RFA), WR, Cardinals. Age: 29. -- Signed with Chiefs

Kansas City Chiefs Free Agents:

Salary Cap (As of Jan. 16): No cap.

1. Derrick Johnson (RFA), ILB, Chiefs. Age: 27.
Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $2.6 million)

Derrick Johnson started only three games in 2009 because he was too talented for Todd Haley's defense. Johnson has absolutely no chance of starting in 2010 after his two pick-sixes against the Broncos in the season finale.

2. Ryan O'Callaghan (RFA), OT, Chiefs. Age: 27.
Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $1.7 million)

Ryan O'Callaghan played very well down the stretch, but I'm not overly confident that he's the long-term answer at right tackle for the Chiefs.

3. Chris Chambers, WR, Chiefs. Age: 32.
Re-signed with Chiefs (3 years, $15 million; $5.9 million guaranteed)

Being cut by the Chargers served as a wake-up call for Chris Chambers, who eclipsed the 70-yard barrier five times in nine games with the Chiefs. Having said that, I wouldn't be able to trust Chambers with a new contract.

4. Corey Mays (RFA), ILB, Chiefs. Age: 26.
Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $1.7 million)

A backup inside linebacker pushed into the starting lineup because of the front office's ineptness, Corey Mays really struggles against the run.

5. Wade Smith, G/C, Chiefs. Age: 29.
Signed with Texans (4 years, $12 million; $6.25 million guaranteed)

Wade Smith played well down the stretch. He can fill in at both guard and center.

6. Mike Vrabel, DE/OLB, Chiefs. Age: 35.
Re-signed with Chiefs

It's sad to see Mike Vrabel decline like this. Vrabel had just two sacks in 2009, but was still effective against the run.

7. Brodie Croyle (RFA), QB, Chiefs. Age: 27.
Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $1.7 million)

I'm not sure if Brodie Croyle isn't the best quarterback on the Chiefs. That's how mediocre Matt Cassel is.

8. Mike Cox (ERFA), RB, Chiefs. Age: 25. -- Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year)
9. Jarrad Page (RFA), FS, Chiefs. Age: 25. -- Tendered by Chiefs (2nd round)
10. Rudy Niswanger (RFA), C, Chiefs. Age: 27. -- Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $1.7 million)
11. Maurice Leggett (ERFA), CB, Chiefs. Age: 23. -- Re-signed with Chiefs
12. Andy Studebaker (RFA), DE/OLB, Chiefs. Age: 24. -- Re-signed with Chiefs
13. Bobby Wade, WR, Chiefs. Age: 29.
14. Mike Goff, G, Chiefs. Age: 34.
15. Andy Alleman (ERFA), G, Chiefs. Age: 26. - Signed with Colts
16. Barry Richardson (ERFA), OT, Chiefs. Age: 24. -- Re-signed with Chiefs
17. Kolby Smith (ERFA), RB, Chiefs. Age: 25. -- Re-signed with Chiefs
18. Matt Gutierrez (ERFA), QB, Chiefs. Age: 26. -- Re-signed with Chiefs
19. Jackie Battle (ERFA), RB, Chiefs. Age: 26. -- Tendered by Chiefs

KCrockaholic · 04-25-2010, 11:46 PM

Berry is a "B" grade?

**** you Walter, you jizz guzzling, dick lovin' mother ****ing son of a bitch.

That felt good. Too bad I can't say it to his face.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 11:50 PM

Let's ignore the grades for a second, and get to the needs.

With the exception of LT, I think he's dead on regarding our needs, and has them listed pretty close to level of importance. I moved ILB up on the list.

Quote:

2. Quarterback: This need obviously won't be addressed anytime soon because Matt Cassel is somehow the third-highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Think about that one for a second.

3. Nose Tackle: Ron Edwards is not a starting-caliber nose tackle. Terrence Cody and Cam Thomas will be considered atop Round 2 of the 2010 NFL Draft. Signed Shaun Smith

4. Rush Linebacker: The Chiefs had just 22 sacks in 2009, and 8.5 of them came from Tamba Hali. A pass-rusher might be added in the early rounds this April.

5. Inside Linebacker: Position No. 439,129,695,238 that needs to be upgraded. Demorrio Williams and Corey Mays starting over Derrick Johnson? Seriously?

6. Center: Even when Kansas City's offensive line improved toward the end of the 2009 season, the center position was still a glaring weakness. An early pick will be used to upgrade Rudy Niswanger. Also, the addition of Russell Okung would push Brian Waters from guard to center. Make that three upgrades for the price of one. The No. 5 overall selection must be Okung. Signed Casey Wiegmann

7. No. 2 Wide Receiver: Chris Chambers was impressive last year since joining the Chiefs, but was likely just playing for a contract. I would not feel comfortable with Chambers as my No. 2 wideout. A receiver could be drafted in Rounds 3-4 this April. Re-signed Chris Chambers

8. Strong Safety: It was imperative that the Chiefs cut Bernard Pollard; he was too talented for their defense and room had to be made for veteran Mike Brown.

~~9. Free Safety: Can the Chiefs really go with the tandem of Jon McGraw, Jarrad Page and DaJuan Morgan at free safety again in 2010?~~

10. Defensive End: Despite all of the resources the Chiefs have used to upgrade their defensive line, they are still really hurting up front. Glenn Dorsey is a poor fit for the 3-4; Tyson Jackson had a horrible rookie campaign; and Alex Magee barely played. Kansas City will likely allow Dorsey, Jackson and Magee to grow together for another year, but it's not looking good at the moment.

11. Right Guard: If the Chiefs take Russell Okung, they can move Branden Albert into this position (though he'll probably go to left guard, and Brian Waters would move to center). Signed Ryan Lilja

12. Slot Receiver: Lance Long and Bobby Wade aren't the answer in the slot. Signed Jerheme Urban

13. Return Specialist: Jamaal Charles won't be returning kicks anymore. Bobby Wade also needs to be upgraded as the punt-returner.

14. Cornerback Depth: Yep, this is needed too.

So needs 2-8 were ignored, while needs 9, 12-14 were addressed.

Awesome.

Mecca · 04-25-2010, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Let's ignore the grades for a second, and get to the needs.

With the exception of LT, I think he's dead on regarding our needs, and has them listed pretty close to level of importance. I moved ILB up on the list.

So needs 2-8 were ignored, while needs 9, 12-14 were addressed.

Awesome.

That sums it up pretty well, but I look for this to be ignored, must like our top needs.

Saccopoo · 04-26-2010, 01:31 AM

Oh, so it's okay to agree with everything he said with the exception of his number one need? #1 NEED.

If you agree with Walter, then the Chiefs draft is fail because they passed on Okung. Again, #1 need, and they passed. After that, it really doesn't matter.

**BossChief** · 04-26-2010, 01:37 AM

2. Quarterback: This need obviously won't be addressed anytime soon because Matt Cassel is somehow the third-highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Think about that one for a second.
you know the answer here
3. Nose Tackle: Ron Edwards is not a starting-caliber nose tackle. Terrence Cody and Cam Thomas will be considered atop Round 2 of the 2010 NFL Draft. Signed Shaun Smith
all the good ones got overdrafted, the remaining ones we obviously didnt like enough to touch, I trust Romeos evaluation of them. Im sure if Troup was there at 2b or 3, we would have pulled the trigger, he loved him after shrine practices

4. Rush Linebacker: The Chiefs had just 22 sacks in 2009, and 8.5 of them came from Tamba Hali. A pass-rusher might be added in the early rounds this April.
Sheffield was drafted in the fifth, the position wasnt "ignored" Im sorry, but I didnt really want Kindle anyway because of how weak he is against the run, when news came out that he needs microfracture surgery and likely played with the injury (which makes it worse and increases the probability of it becoming a long term problem) it made him untouchable that high for a team like us that cant afford to have a high pick on the pup to start his KC career
5. Inside Linebacker: Position No. 439,129,695,238 that needs to be upgraded. Demorrio Williams and Corey Mays starting over Derrick Johnson? Seriously?
I got nothing, I did notice that Pittsburgh drafted 3 of them and I wonder if they cut Farrior loose or if they are offering him for trade comp? Id trade them Waters in a heartbeat...2 problems solved BOOM get Pioli on the line!!!

6. Center: Even when Kansas City's offensive line improved toward the end of the 2009 season, the center position was still a glaring weakness. An early pick will be used to upgrade Rudy Niswanger. Also, the addition of Russell Okung would push Brian Waters from guard to center. Make that three upgrades for the price of one. The No. 5 overall selection must be Okung. Signed Casey Wiegmann, I would have liked to have drafted Matt Tennant over that safety we drafted in the fifth, but I dont know the whole story on either.

7. No. 2 Wide Receiver: Chris Chambers was impressive last year since joining the Chiefs, but was likely just playing for a contract. I would not feel comfortable with Chambers as my No. 2 wideout. A receiver could be drafted in Rounds 3-4 this April. Re-signed Chris Chambers Im glad they left a long term starters spot open, next year will be a better year to fill this gap.

8. Strong Safety: It was imperative that the Chiefs cut Bernard Pollard; he was too talented for their defense and room had to be made for veteran Mike Brown.
I was one of the few that was full blown against this move BEFORE it was made, our run defense missed his presence and he would have paired VERY nicely with Berry IMHO, but if he wasnt gonna get with the program...**** em!

9. Free Safety: Can the Chiefs really go with the tandem of Jon McGraw, Jarrad Page and DaJuan Morgan at free safety again in 2010?

done

10. Defensive End: Despite all of the resources the Chiefs have used to upgrade their defensive line, they are still really hurting up front. Glenn Dorsey is a poor fit for the 3-4; Tyson Jackson had a horrible rookie campaign; and Alex Magee barely played. Kansas City will likely allow Dorsey, Jackson and Magee to grow together for another year, but it's not looking good at the moment.

We have absolutely NO need for DEs on this team. NONE. Even if we move Dorsey to the nose, we still have good depth at end.

The way we passed on nose guards in the draft, makes me wonder if there is more to the Dorsey to NT "rumors" than meets the eye.

11. Right Guard: If the Chiefs take Russell Okung, they can move Branden Albert into this position (though he'll probably go to left guard, and Brian Waters would move to center). Signed Ryan Lilja

We drafted one of the best RG prospects in the draft, if not the best.

12. Slot Receiver: Lance Long and Bobby Wade aren't the answer in the slot. Signed Jerheme Urban

We got a PLAYA!!

13. Return Specialist: Jamaal Charles won't be returning kicks anymore. Bobby Wade also needs to be upgraded as the punt-returner.

We got a PLAYA!!

14. Cornerback Depth: Yep, this is needed too.

We got a PLAYA!! (albeit a nickle one)

Blick · 04-26-2010, 01:53 AM

They addressed rush backer with Sheffield and undrafted FA Justin Cole. Studebaker still has upside too.

We also might have addressed inside linebacker with undrafted FA Michael Johnson.

I agree with Boss about the nose tackle situation. After Buffalo reached for Troup, I kinda figured that we weren't going to be able to get a nose. If Dorsey and Jackson can make significant jumps, we might be able to get away with a serviceable at best NT.

Mr. Arrowhead · 04-26-2010, 08:08 AM

Walter is dumb ass for putting Berry as a B grade.

**SAUTO** · 04-26-2010, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Oh, so it's okay to agree with everything he said with the exception of his number one need? #1 NEED.

If you agree with Walter, then the Chiefs draft is fail because they passed on Okung. Again, #1 need, and they passed. After that, it really doesn't matter.

he also disagreed with ILB and moved that position up in his analysis.

L.A. Chieffan · 04-26-2010, 09:11 AM

I still think ALbert can do well. Especially with more help on the line next to him and a QB that doesnt get deer in headlights look on every blitz.

Chiefnj2 · 04-26-2010, 09:18 AM

This'll be my last draft discussion. Walt is dumb to rank Berry a B. Completely stupid.

As far as KC's draft:
1. Berry Great pick.

2. McCluster. I remember watching a few Ole Miss games this year and saying wow that guy is pretty good. Then when the combine rolled around and he was only 175lbs and didn't run that fast, I thought he'd slide a bit. IMO, and I know a lot of people will disagree, Oakland (I think) got better value taking Jacoby Ford in the 4th round. KC could have taken their undersized speedster/wildcat/returner in round 4, and used the 2a pick to address a bigger need. Personally, I'd have grabbed Tate - a full time receiver who can operate in an NFL offense. A guy that can run KCs system and make plays with the ball. Tate had one of the fastest 10 yard splits, so he can get off the line quickly - something Cassel needs.

3. Arenas. Seems too similar to McCluster. KC's D is atrocious up the gut and they are taking part-time players? You've got defensive players like Cody, Lee and Butler on the board and you are taking a nickel corner? I'm not sure opposing teams are going to face 3rd and long all that much.

4. Asamoah - I'd give it an A-. It gets a minus only because KC ignored other needs positions in round 2, that I still can't help but feel they should have gone front 7 defense. Good pick, but I'd like it better if other positions were drafted prior.

5. Moeaki - Giving up picks to move up in a deep TE class? Who was available in the 4th? - Campbell for RT, Jacoby Ford (if you didn't go McCluster at 2a), Pitta, Dillard, Gibson and Norwood. I'd much rather have Pitta, Dillard, Gibson or Norwood and the extra pick. I would have rather used the extra 5th to move up to the end of 4 to get two of the aforementioned players.

6. Lewis - Another DB? Thomas, Scott, Olsen and Tennant are on the board and KC is still taking special teamers? Hell take a chance on Hardy or LeFevour.

7. Sheffield - I like the pick. I'm from the camp that you always try to grab a pass rusher in every draft.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-26-2010, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Oh, so it's okay to agree with everything he said with the exception of his number one need? #1 NEED.

If you agree with Walter, then the Chiefs draft is fail because they passed on Okung. Again, #1 need, and they passed. After that, it really doesn't matter.

First, I didn't agree with his assessment of our needs at ILB, either. Way too low.

Second, I have to agree with everything to use this as a template?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-26-2010, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

This'll be my last draft discussion. Walt is dumb to rank Berry a B. Completely stupid.

As far as KC's draft:
1. Berry Great pick.

2. McCluster. I remember watching a few Ole Miss games this year and saying wow that guy is pretty good. Then when the combine rolled around and he was only 175lbs and didn't run that fast, I thought he'd slide a bit. IMO, and I know a lot of people will disagree, Oakland (I think) got better value taking Jacoby Ford in the 4th round. KC could have taken their undersized speedster/wildcat/returner in round 4, and used the 2a pick to address a bigger need. Personally, I'd have grabbed Tate - a full time receiver who can operate in an NFL offense. A guy that can run KCs system and make plays with the ball. Tate had one of the fastest 10 yard splits, so he can get off the line quickly - something Cassel needs.

3. Arenas. Seems too similar to McCluster. KC's D is atrocious up the gut and they are taking part-time players? You've got defensive players like Cody, Lee and Butler on the board and you are taking a nickel corner? I'm not sure opposing teams are going to face 3rd and long all that much.

4. Asamoah - I'd give it an A-. It gets a minus only because KC ignored other needs positions in round 2, that I still can't help but feel they should have gone front 7 defense. Good pick, but I'd like it better if other positions were drafted prior.

5. Moeaki - Giving up picks to move up in a deep TE class? Who was available in the 4th? - Campbell for RT, Jacoby Ford (if you didn't go McCluster at 2a), Pitta, Dillard, Gibson and Norwood. I'd much rather have Pitta, Dillard, Gibson or Norwood and the extra pick. I would have rather used the extra 5th to move up to the end of 4 to get two of the aforementioned players.

6. Lewis - Another DB? Thomas, Scott, Olsen and Tennant are on the board and KC is still taking special teamers? Hell take a chance on Hardy or LeFevour.

7. Sheffield - I like the pick. I'm from the camp that you always try to grab a pass rusher in every draft.

Good post.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-26-2010, 09:31 AM

I just love how it keeps being repeated that we ignored needs at NT to take a part-time player, but then in the next sentence they talk about Terrence Cody like he's going to be on the field more than 50% of snaps in the game.

Nightfyre · 04-26-2010, 09:47 AM

I don't disagree with too much of what walter has to say. Berry was obviously the right pick. But a safety in the top 5... Eh. I'd give it a B+...

McCluster**** would be a D in my book. We took a 170 lb roleplayer whose shelf life is likely under five years when there are a number of everydown improvements on the board, including a QB whom your QB expert has worked with extensively and is telling you has the makings of a franchise player?

At 2B, we could have had golden tate or cody... But we go with a midget nickleback/return specialist? What's the point of drafting Berry at five if you don't plan to man him up in nickle situations?

I like the Asamoah pick. Good value at a position of need. Certainly an A.

Then we trade up and take a player who can't stay healthy at a position that isn't even used in our offense.

And we pass on Cam Thomas in the fifth? Wtf...

04-25-2010, 11:43 PM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2767187	Walter Football's KC Chiefs Draft Analysis 2010 NFL Offseason: Kansas City Chiefs Draft Grades, Season Previews, Offseason Needs, Free Agents Kansas City Chiefs (Last Year: 4-12) 2010 NFL Draft Grades: 5. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee Eric Berry's probably going to be a stud, but taking a safety in the top five is a very questionable move. (Pick Grade: B) 36. Dexter McCluster, RB/WR/KR, Ole Miss Dexter McCluster is a luxury pick. If some team with few needs wanted to take him in Round 2, that would have been fine. The Chiefs don't have that luxury because of all of their primary needs. (Pick Grade: C) 50. Javier Arenas, CB/KR, Alabama The Chiefs just drafted a nickel corner and kick returner when they still have issues with quarterback protection and pass rush. Not a good weekend to be a Chiefs fan. (Pick Grade: C) 68. Jon Asamoah, G, Illinois I'm going to ignore the whole Branden Albert issue here because Jon Asamoah is a skilled second-round prospect. Many had him as the No. 2 guard. The Chiefs had to improve the offensive line. (Pick Grade: A) 93. Tony Moeaki, TE, Iowa I'm a big Tony Moeaki fan - as long as he stays healthy. It always seemed like he was injured at Iowa. If he can stay on the field, he should be a great weapon for Matt Cassel. (Pick Grade: B) 136. Kendrick Lewis, FS, Ole Miss A reach, but that doesn't matter much in Round 5. Kendrick Lewis fills a need, so this makes sense. (Pick Grade: C) 142. Cameron Sheffield, DE/OLB, Troy Cameron Sheffield is a quality value here and fills a major position of need. The Chiefs have not been able to get to the quarterback for years. (Pick Grade: B) Key Undrafted Free Agents: # Nathan Ivey, NT, Maryland # Bill Stull, QB, Pittsburgh Season Summary: I think most of us can now confirm that handing out $63 million to noodle-armed quarterbacks doesn't work. Sadly, there are some who will still argue this. But just imagine if the Chiefs just selected Mark Sanchez at No. 3 overall and used their second-round choice on someone like Ziggy Hood (would have to trade up a few spots) or Rey Maualuga. You can say hindsight is 20-20, but several people actually mocked these players to Kansas City back in January. Offseason Moves: # Chiefs re-sign ILB Corey Mays # Chiefs re-sign QB Brodie Croyle # Chiefs re-sign OT Ryan O'Callaghan # Chiefs re-sign C Rudy Niswanger # Chiefs re-sign OT Barry Richardson # Chiefs re-sign CB Maurice Leggett # Chiefs re-sign FB Mike Cox # Chiefs re-sign ILB Derrick Johnson # Chiefs announce retirement of QB Quinn Gray # Chiefs sign G Ryan Lilja # Chiefs sign C Casey Wiegmann # Chiefs sign WR Jerheme Urban # Texans sign G/C Wade Smith # Chiefs sign DE/DT Shaun Smith # Chiefs sign RB Thomas Jones # Chiefs re-sign WR Chris Chambers # Colts sign G/C Andy Alleman # Chiefs tender RB Jackie Battle # Chiefs tender S Jarrad Page # Chiefs re-sign DE/OLB Mike Vrabel # Chiefs cut G Mike Goff # Chiefs re-sign QB Matt Gutierrez # Chiefs re-sign RB Kolby Smith Offseason Needs: 1. Left Tackle: Branden Albert didn't allow a sack in his final six games, so one would think that he really improved toward the end of the season. However, that's an incorrect assumption. Albert still allowed lots of pressures; his sack total was simply down because Matt Cassel released the ball quicker or just handed it off to Jamaal Charles. The left tackle position is still in desperate need of an upgrade, so Russell Okung is the likely pick at No. 5. Albert would then play guard, which would give the Chiefs two upgrades for the price of one. 2. Quarterback: This need obviously won't be addressed anytime soon because Matt Cassel is somehow the third-highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Think about that one for a second. 3. Nose Tackle: Ron Edwards is not a starting-caliber nose tackle. Terrence Cody and Cam Thomas will be considered atop Round 2 of the 2010 NFL Draft. Signed Shaun Smith 4. Rush Linebacker: The Chiefs had just 22 sacks in 2009, and 8.5 of them came from Tamba Hali. A pass-rusher might be added in the early rounds this April. 5. Center: Even when Kansas City's offensive line improved toward the end of the 2009 season, the center position was still a glaring weakness. An early pick will be used to upgrade Rudy Niswanger. Also, the addition of Russell Okung would push Brian Waters from guard to center. Make that three upgrades for the price of one. The No. 5 overall selection must be Okung. Signed Casey Wiegmann 6. No. 2 Wide Receiver: Chris Chambers was impressive last year since joining the Chiefs, but was likely just playing for a contract. I would not feel comfortable with Chambers as my No. 2 wideout. A receiver could be drafted in Rounds 3-4 this April. Re-signed Chris Chambers 7. Strong Safety: It was imperative that the Chiefs cut Bernard Pollard; he was too talented for their defense and room had to be made for veteran Mike Brown. 8. Free Safety: Can the Chiefs really go with the tandem of Jon McGraw, Jarrad Page and DaJuan Morgan at free safety again in 2010? 9. Defensive End: Despite all of the resources the Chiefs have used to upgrade their defensive line, they are still really hurting up front. Glenn Dorsey is a poor fit for the 3-4; Tyson Jackson had a horrible rookie campaign; and Alex Magee barely played. Kansas City will likely allow Dorsey, Jackson and Magee to grow together for another year, but it's not looking good at the moment. 10. Inside Linebacker: Position No. 439,129,695,238 that needs to be upgraded. Demorrio Williams and Corey Mays starting over Derrick Johnson? Seriously? 11. Right Guard: If the Chiefs take Russell Okung, they can move Branden Albert into this position (though he'll probably go to left guard, and Brian Waters would move to center). Signed Ryan Lilja 12. Slot Receiver: Lance Long and Bobby Wade aren't the answer in the slot. Signed Jerheme Urban 13. Return Specialist: Jamaal Charles won't be returning kicks anymore. Bobby Wade also needs to be upgraded as the punt-returner. 14. Cornerback Depth: Yep, this is needed too. 15. Power Running Back: Someone to complement the electrifying Jamaal Charles could be taken in the later rounds of the 2010 NFL Draft. Signed Thomas Jones 2010 NFL Free Agent Signings: 1. Thomas Jones, RB, Jets. Age: 32. Signed with Chiefs (2 years, $5 million) Thomas Jones would be a quality signing for one year. However, he's 32 and wore down at the end of last season. The tank is nearing empty. 2. Ryan Lilja, G, Colts. Age: 28. -- Signed with Chiefs (3 years) 3. Casey Wiegmann, C, Broncos. Age: 37. -- Signed with Chiefs (1 year) 4. Jerheme Urban (RFA), WR, Cardinals. Age: 29. -- Signed with Chiefs Kansas City Chiefs Free Agents: Salary Cap (As of Jan. 16): No cap. 1. Derrick Johnson (RFA), ILB, Chiefs. Age: 27. Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $2.6 million) Derrick Johnson started only three games in 2009 because he was too talented for Todd Haley's defense. Johnson has absolutely no chance of starting in 2010 after his two pick-sixes against the Broncos in the season finale. 2. Ryan O'Callaghan (RFA), OT, Chiefs. Age: 27. Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $1.7 million) Ryan O'Callaghan played very well down the stretch, but I'm not overly confident that he's the long-term answer at right tackle for the Chiefs. 3. Chris Chambers, WR, Chiefs. Age: 32. Re-signed with Chiefs (3 years, $15 million; $5.9 million guaranteed) Being cut by the Chargers served as a wake-up call for Chris Chambers, who eclipsed the 70-yard barrier five times in nine games with the Chiefs. Having said that, I wouldn't be able to trust Chambers with a new contract. 4. Corey Mays (RFA), ILB, Chiefs. Age: 26. Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $1.7 million) A backup inside linebacker pushed into the starting lineup because of the front office's ineptness, Corey Mays really struggles against the run. 5. Wade Smith, G/C, Chiefs. Age: 29. Signed with Texans (4 years, $12 million; $6.25 million guaranteed) Wade Smith played well down the stretch. He can fill in at both guard and center. 6. Mike Vrabel, DE/OLB, Chiefs. Age: 35. Re-signed with Chiefs It's sad to see Mike Vrabel decline like this. Vrabel had just two sacks in 2009, but was still effective against the run. 7. Brodie Croyle (RFA), QB, Chiefs. Age: 27. Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $1.7 million) I'm not sure if Brodie Croyle isn't the best quarterback on the Chiefs. That's how mediocre Matt Cassel is. 8. Mike Cox (ERFA), RB, Chiefs. Age: 25. -- Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year) 9. Jarrad Page (RFA), FS, Chiefs. Age: 25. -- Tendered by Chiefs (2nd round) 10. Rudy Niswanger (RFA), C, Chiefs. Age: 27. -- Re-signed with Chiefs (1 year, $1.7 million) 11. Maurice Leggett (ERFA), CB, Chiefs. Age: 23. -- Re-signed with Chiefs 12. Andy Studebaker (RFA), DE/OLB, Chiefs. Age: 24. -- Re-signed with Chiefs 13. Bobby Wade, WR, Chiefs. Age: 29. 14. Mike Goff, G, Chiefs. Age: 34. 15. Andy Alleman (ERFA), G, Chiefs. Age: 26. - Signed with Colts 16. Barry Richardson (ERFA), OT, Chiefs. Age: 24. -- Re-signed with Chiefs 17. Kolby Smith (ERFA), RB, Chiefs. Age: 25. -- Re-signed with Chiefs 18. Matt Gutierrez (ERFA), QB, Chiefs. Age: 26. -- Re-signed with Chiefs 19. Jackie Battle (ERFA), RB, Chiefs. Age: 26. -- Tendered by Chiefs
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04-25-2010, 11:46 PM	#2
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $3462900	Berry is a "B" grade? ** you Walter, you jizz guzzling, dick lovin' mother **ing son of a bitch. That felt good. Too bad I can't say it to his face.
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04-26-2010, 01:31 AM	#5
Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	Oh, so it's okay to agree with everything he said with the exception of his number one need? #1 NEED. If you agree with Walter, then the Chiefs draft is fail because they passed on Okung. Again, #1 need, and they passed. After that, it really doesn't matter.
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04-26-2010, 01:37 AM	#6
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1545912	2. Quarterback: This need obviously won't be addressed anytime soon because Matt Cassel is somehow the third-highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Think about that one for a second. you know the answer here 3. Nose Tackle: Ron Edwards is not a starting-caliber nose tackle. Terrence Cody and Cam Thomas will be considered atop Round 2 of the 2010 NFL Draft. Signed Shaun Smith all the good ones got overdrafted, the remaining ones we obviously didnt like enough to touch, I trust Romeos evaluation of them. Im sure if Troup was there at 2b or 3, we would have pulled the trigger, he loved him after shrine practices 4. Rush Linebacker: The Chiefs had just 22 sacks in 2009, and 8.5 of them came from Tamba Hali. A pass-rusher might be added in the early rounds this April. Sheffield was drafted in the fifth, the position wasnt "ignored" Im sorry, but I didnt really want Kindle anyway because of how weak he is against the run, when news came out that he needs microfracture surgery and likely played with the injury (which makes it worse and increases the probability of it becoming a long term problem) it made him untouchable that high for a team like us that cant afford to have a high pick on the pup to start his KC career 5. Inside Linebacker: Position No. 439,129,695,238 that needs to be upgraded. Demorrio Williams and Corey Mays starting over Derrick Johnson? Seriously? I got nothing, I did notice that Pittsburgh drafted 3 of them and I wonder if they cut Farrior loose or if they are offering him for trade comp? Id trade them Waters in a heartbeat...2 problems solved BOOM get Pioli on the line!!! 6. Center: Even when Kansas City's offensive line improved toward the end of the 2009 season, the center position was still a glaring weakness. An early pick will be used to upgrade Rudy Niswanger. Also, the addition of Russell Okung would push Brian Waters from guard to center. Make that three upgrades for the price of one. The No. 5 overall selection must be Okung. Signed Casey Wiegmann, I would have liked to have drafted Matt Tennant over that safety we drafted in the fifth, but I dont know the whole story on either. 7. No. 2 Wide Receiver: Chris Chambers was impressive last year since joining the Chiefs, but was likely just playing for a contract. I would not feel comfortable with Chambers as my No. 2 wideout. A receiver could be drafted in Rounds 3-4 this April. Re-signed Chris Chambers Im glad they left a long term starters spot open, next year will be a better year to fill this gap. 8. Strong Safety: It was imperative that the Chiefs cut Bernard Pollard; he was too talented for their defense and room had to be made for veteran Mike Brown. I was one of the few that was full blown against this move BEFORE it was made, our run defense missed his presence and he would have paired VERY nicely with Berry IMHO, but if he wasnt gonna get with the program...** em! 9. Free Safety: Can the Chiefs really go with the tandem of Jon McGraw, Jarrad Page and DaJuan Morgan at free safety again in 2010? done 10. Defensive End: Despite all of the resources the Chiefs have used to upgrade their defensive line, they are still really hurting up front. Glenn Dorsey is a poor fit for the 3-4; Tyson Jackson had a horrible rookie campaign; and Alex Magee barely played. Kansas City will likely allow Dorsey, Jackson and Magee to grow together for another year, but it's not looking good at the moment. We have absolutely NO need for DEs on this team. NONE. Even if we move Dorsey to the nose, we still have good depth at end. The way we passed on nose guards in the draft, makes me wonder if there is more to the Dorsey to NT "rumors" than meets the eye. 11. Right Guard: If the Chiefs take Russell Okung, they can move Branden Albert into this position (though he'll probably go to left guard, and Brian Waters would move to center). Signed Ryan Lilja We drafted one of the best RG prospects in the draft, if not the best. 12. Slot Receiver: Lance Long and Bobby Wade aren't the answer in the slot. Signed Jerheme Urban We got a PLAYA!! 13. Return Specialist: Jamaal Charles won't be returning kicks anymore. Bobby Wade also needs to be upgraded as the punt-returner. We got a PLAYA!! 14. Cornerback Depth: Yep, this is needed too. We got a PLAYA!!** (albeit a nickle one) __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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04-26-2010, 01:53 AM	#7
Blick Veteran Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South KC Casino cash: $10004900	They addressed rush backer with Sheffield and undrafted FA Justin Cole. Studebaker still has upside too. We also might have addressed inside linebacker with undrafted FA Michael Johnson. I agree with Boss about the nose tackle situation. After Buffalo reached for Troup, I kinda figured that we weren't going to be able to get a nose. If Dorsey and Jackson can make significant jumps, we might be able to get away with a serviceable at best NT.
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04-26-2010, 08:08 AM	#8
Mr. Arrowhead MVP Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10015708	Walter is dumb ass for putting Berry as a B grade.
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04-26-2010, 09:11 AM	#10
L.A. Chieffan PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: American Gardens Building Casino cash: $2728654	I still think ALbert can do well. Especially with more help on the line next to him and a QB that doesnt get deer in headlights look on every blitz.
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04-26-2010, 09:18 AM	#11
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6674388	This'll be my last draft discussion. Walt is dumb to rank Berry a B. Completely stupid. As far as KC's draft: 1. Berry Great pick. 2. McCluster. I remember watching a few Ole Miss games this year and saying wow that guy is pretty good. Then when the combine rolled around and he was only 175lbs and didn't run that fast, I thought he'd slide a bit. IMO, and I know a lot of people will disagree, Oakland (I think) got better value taking Jacoby Ford in the 4th round. KC could have taken their undersized speedster/wildcat/returner in round 4, and used the 2a pick to address a bigger need. Personally, I'd have grabbed Tate - a full time receiver who can operate in an NFL offense. A guy that can run KCs system and make plays with the ball. Tate had one of the fastest 10 yard splits, so he can get off the line quickly - something Cassel needs. 3. Arenas. Seems too similar to McCluster. KC's D is atrocious up the gut and they are taking part-time players? You've got defensive players like Cody, Lee and Butler on the board and you are taking a nickel corner? I'm not sure opposing teams are going to face 3rd and long all that much. 4. Asamoah - I'd give it an A-. It gets a minus only because KC ignored other needs positions in round 2, that I still can't help but feel they should have gone front 7 defense. Good pick, but I'd like it better if other positions were drafted prior. 5. Moeaki - Giving up picks to move up in a deep TE class? Who was available in the 4th? - Campbell for RT, Jacoby Ford (if you didn't go McCluster at 2a), Pitta, Dillard, Gibson and Norwood. I'd much rather have Pitta, Dillard, Gibson or Norwood and the extra pick. I would have rather used the extra 5th to move up to the end of 4 to get two of the aforementioned players. 6. Lewis - Another DB? Thomas, Scott, Olsen and Tennant are on the board and KC is still taking special teamers? Hell take a chance on Hardy or LeFevour. 7. Sheffield - I like the pick. I'm from the camp that you always try to grab a pass rusher in every draft. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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04-26-2010, 09:31 AM	#14
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	I just love how it keeps being repeated that we ignored needs at NT to take a part-time player, but then in the next sentence they talk about Terrence Cody like he's going to be on the field more than 50% of snaps in the game. __________________
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04-26-2010, 09:47 AM	#15
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $1368849	I don't disagree with too much of what walter has to say. Berry was obviously the right pick. But a safety in the top 5... Eh. I'd give it a B+... McCluster**** would be a D in my book. We took a 170 lb roleplayer whose shelf life is likely under five years when there are a number of everydown improvements on the board, including a QB whom your QB expert has worked with extensively and is telling you has the makings of a franchise player? At 2B, we could have had golden tate or cody... But we go with a midget nickleback/return specialist? What's the point of drafting Berry at five if you don't plan to man him up in nickle situations? I like the Asamoah pick. Good value at a position of need. Certainly an A. Then we trade up and take a player who can't stay healthy at a position that isn't even used in our offense. And we pass on Cam Thomas in the fifth? Wtf...
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