OMG: 1000 posts here I come...

[wutamess]

This is an excellent 47 minute long video. It's based off the older brown eyed blue eyed documentary done in the 60's.

Basically it goes to show people how we (black people) feel like we have to "play the game" to get by.

Of course YOU aren't the one's that enslaved us etc, and YOU may not be a racist but this is an excellent way to see how disadvantaged and how many obstacles we have when it comes to succeeding in life.

Here's the vid.
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=G6E0188O

Please watch it with an open mind and maybe see that we kinda have a point to feel that way instead of trying to defend how you're treated as we are.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by wutamess

Are you really not going to add anything constructive?

Are you new here?

[MikeMaslowski]

Originally Posted by wutamess

Can you expand on that? Why do I feel like I'm pulling teeth?

Got really bad for me and my boss.

We ended up going to the top Army investigative command, wrote a letter to the top commander in my field and all of his underlings, requested a move from my unit. Everything got shoved under the rug. They wouldn't even give me a response on it. I said many times, "How can a black leader in the United States Army liken me to a slave owner and nothing be done about it?" I had a chance to get out and I took it. I would have stayed in, but I would have another year under him and I didn't feel like getting kicked out for saying something pretty bad.

Ugh, gonna get some dinner.

[Inspector]

Discrimination sucks. If I think about, it I'm still a little miffed about being turned down for promotions and jobs due to my skin color. It sucks.

In our family we adopt an attitude that skin color is treated the same as eye color, hair color or crayon colors. One aint any better than another, just different.

I'll try to watch this if I get a chance. Thanks for the link to it!

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by tyton75

kma Roger!

gfy!

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Are you new here?

hmmm. I thought Donger was one of the ones that asks repetitive questions to seek to understand and not the asshole type.

Maybe I had him pegged wrongly.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by Donger

About the video? No, not really. It did nothing for me.

You'd have to be a deaf mute not to come away with anything. Or did you agree with the (ignorant) school teacher?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by wutamess

You'd have to be a deaf mute not to come away with anything. Or did you agree with the (ignorant) school teacher?

It doesn't take a genius to put oneself in a that position and imagine, "Hmmm, I don't think I'd like to be discriminated against."

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by Donger

It doesn't take a genius to put oneself in a that position and imagine, "Hmmm, I don't think I'd like to be discriminated against."

So small picture. Do you Donger... Do you!

[Donger]

Originally Posted by wutamess

So small picture. Do you Donger... Do you!

Do I like being discriminated against? No.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Well, wuttamess, while I don't think you are going to get to 1k posts you've achieved a good goal here. In my case, as I mentioned, I saw this when I was a kid. And even then I pretty much got it. In my long hair metal days, I'd be followed around in grocery stores because I looked like trouble. The difference is, I could cut my hair, change my clothes and be model citizen, whereas a black person, or Hispanic or what have you, cannot do that. Fat people can lose weight, but women are women (unless they reeeeeally want to make that change, that's a whole other thing). So, while I realize that I'll never LIVE that life, I can say that I have an understanding of it.

Now here's the rub. It goes on everywhere. I remember during the LA riots that the largely black mobs were attacking Oriental owned businesses (Korean specifically if I remember right). If black people, who should KNOW better, are capable of such atrocities, it sort of contributes to the attitudes of some white people who say Hey, if it ain't right for us to do, it ain't right for you to do.

I'm not saying that YOU are saying it's right, but it's a lot deeper I think than just understanding what it's like to be picked on.

Anyway, I try not to see all black people through the same lens, same as any other people. I don't always pull it off. But at the end of the day, I know I don't hate anyone. For me, that's probably as good as it'll get.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

If black people, who should KNOW better, are capable of such atrocities, it sort of contributes to the attitudes of some white people who say Hey, if it ain't right for us to do, it ain't right for you to do.

I wasn't really looking for 1k posts... I just couldn't think of a better thread topic to grab peoples attention and bring awareness to it.

I'm a huge proponent of self responsibility and not blaming others for your problems.

However, you got my and the video's point of how it's a little unbalanced on what we have to do to get the same standards of life that a lot of white people take for granted because it's more of the norm and expected.

[MOhillbilly]

WUTA, do you have a negative stereotype of me? After you seen the picture of my family did this reinforce your stereotype?
your comment in the faces and names thread makes me wonder because i believe you have left the same comment on two diffrent occasions in the same thread.
That and the meltdown you had awhile back, still dont know wtf that was about...you know the one where you likeded me to BD...

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

WUTA, do you have a negative stereotype of me? After you seen the picture of my family did this reinforce your stereotype?
your comment in the faces and names thread makes me wonder because i believe you have left the same comment on two diffrent occasions in the same thread.
That and the meltdown you had awhile back, still dont know wtf that was about...you know the one where you likeded me to BD...

Dude... my perception of you is of a redneck like Hog Farmer. Not that there's anything wrong with that (seriously). I don't have any negative personal feelings towards you or BD. These are just discussions and we tend to have disagreements but it never goes any further than that with me.

Matter of factly, I forgot all about the BD comparisons and discussions we've had but I see how you might think I'd be picking on you after seeing your pic. I'm just now putting that 2 & 2 together.

It was more of your name and I sometimes get you confuse with Hogfarmer. That's a funny dude to me the way he's always talking about pig sperm and shit.

You're looking too deep into my view of you. Nothing's personal. I have no problems with you as I realize we all have opinions and are free to express them wrong or right even though you're wrong.

Now stop defending the killer pit bulls.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by wutamess

I think you're still missing the point. She gave you a first hand look at how we have to go through our ENTIRE LIFE with a disadvantage from birth because of our skin color. It doesn't matter if YOU personally are a racist...

The society we live in is racist to an extent which makes it harder for minorities to thrive. Of course there are exceptions to the rule but the way the system is already in place it's a breeding ground for failure for minorities.

I quite clearly see her point. That considered she still fails to address many issues that drive racism. I'm not trying put disparage her lesson. I'm just pointing out that this lesson is quite elementary driven by a 60's mentality. It was designed for 3rd graders, not adults.

I don't know about you, but racial issues have become quite different as an adult than when I was 3rd grader. As an adult I can quite clearly differentiate between good and bad, right and wrong towards others than when I was a kid. I'm not a 3rd grader anymore that responds well to tyrant attitudes that she displays.

Why do you think she kicks out the dissenters? Because she doesn't allow for adult reasoning and emotion in her lesson. This a rudimentary lesson that hasn't adjusted towards the adult mindset. A lot of us have moved beyond the mob mentality of elementary school.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by Saggysack

I quite clearly see her point. That considered she still fails to address many issues that drive racism. I'm not trying put disparage her lesson. I'm just pointing out that this lesson is quite elementary driven by a 60's mentality. It was designed for 3rd graders, not adults.

I don't know about you, but racial issues have become quite different as an adult than when I was 3rd grader. As an adult I can quite clearly differentiate between good and bad, right and wrong towards others than when I was a kid. I'm not a 3rd grader anymore that responds well to tyrant attitudes that she displays.

Why do you think she kicks out the dissenters? Because she doesn't allow for adult reasoning and emotion in her lesson. This a rudimentary lesson that hasn't adjusted towards the adult mindset. A lot of us have moved beyond the mob mentality of elementary school.

We'll have to agree to disagree.