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Old 02-15-2010, 10:10 PM  
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This is an excellent 47 minute long video. It's based off the older brown eyed blue eyed documentary done in the 60's.

Basically it goes to show people how we (black people) feel like we have to "play the game" to get by.

Of course YOU aren't the one's that enslaved us etc, and YOU may not be a racist but this is an excellent way to see how disadvantaged and how many obstacles we have when it comes to succeeding in life.

Here's the vid.
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=G6E0188O

Please watch it with an open mind and maybe see that we kinda have a point to feel that way instead of trying to defend how you're treated as we are.

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Old 02-16-2010, 10:40 AM   #91
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:40 AM   #92
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I can't order some fuggin chicken at company dinners . I don't eat red meat and pork but I don't want to feed into the stereotypes of all we eat is chicken, greens and other soul foods.
Yes you can, you just give a shit about what people think of you. Order the chicken and enjoy it. What's the big deal?

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I have to tip more to change the perception of black people don't tip.
I used to deliver pizzas for Godfathers, and I can tell you honestly that about 95% of my black customers did not tip. The ones who did were very good tippers. Maybe there is something to that...

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Like the guy in the video, I have to try my best to bring out whiteness in my voice when talking to be taken seriously.
Instead of "whiteness," maybe you could think of it as "professional"...I don't talk at work the same way I talk around my buddies...

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Like the video subtle differences but they're there.
Subtle, but not earth shattering, and certainly nothing that is holding you back. Now, I'm certain that racism exists (on all sides, by the way) but I'm also certain that most people are good and do not carry racism to a level of hatred or deep discrimination. But lets face it, we all have a certain comfort level and we all have our pre-conceived notions about each other.

My question is, what do you want us to do about it?
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:40 AM   #93
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:40 AM   #94
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Just order the chicken. Nobody actually cares. Do not order the collard greens though. I will make a stupid joke if you order some collard greens.

I have a similar complaint. I find my voice dropping some ethnic slang when I hang out with a few black guys. What is up with that? I certainly don't do it intentionally but I catch myself breaking into that mode. I can't figure that out for the life of me.
It's because you subliminally seek acceptance. Which is what we have to do to "blend in" for acceptance. BTW: I've noticed your black voice.
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:41 AM   #95
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I clicked on the link, but it wants me to sign up for something. No thanks.

Besides, you just wrote about me: "You of all people wont understand."

So, why should I bother? That seems to be your default answer. No, I'll never know what it's like to be black. Just as you'll never know or understand what it's like to be white.
Cancel the popup and hit play again and it'll play.
Thanks for trying.
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:41 AM   #96
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Well being myself I like baggy jeans... Hip hop... flashy shirts, etc.
I'd think you should dress appropriately for the situation.

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I don't like having to bring out my white voice as I'd rather be myself. But if I want to get ahead, I have to "play the game".
WTF is your "white voice"?
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Just as you'll never know or understand what it's like to be white.
I have a better idea about what it's like than you have about what it's like being black. Remember, (unless I'm a CEO or something) we have to simulate whites in order to get ahead. You don't have to do that.
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:44 AM   #98
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It's because you subliminally seek acceptance. Which is what we have to do to "blend in" for acceptance. BTW: I've noticed your black voice.
Heh. I feel like a moron when it happens but it just flops out. The more black guys I'm around the more I take it on. I remember when I played a game of softball with one of your teams a few years back down in Knobtown - I was the only white guy.... Heh, I must have really broken out some slang that night. I also didn't tip and I ate some watermelon too.
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Man, that black host really talks white! British white even.
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My question is, what do you want us to do about it?
I'm not looking for handouts... Just for you to watch the video and understand our point of view and realize that we're not full of excuses.

We do (not me) tend to play the race card at wrong times and situations but sometimes it's warranted.
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Heh. I feel like a moron when it happens but it just flops out. The more black guys I'm around the more I take it on. I remember when I played a game of softball with one of your teams a few years back down in Knobtown - I was the only white guy.... Heh, I must have really broken out some slang that night. I also didn't tip and I ate some watermelon too.
They were more concerned with your tight ass shorts than your slang.
They were thinking, "who's the wigga in the tight shorts? They don't go together".
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I have a better idea about what it's like than you have about what it's like being black. Remember, (unless I'm a CEO or something) we have to simulate whites in order to get ahead. You don't have to do that.
No, you don't have any idea what it's like to be white.

If by "simulate whites" you mean being professional, intelligent and driven, I guess. Aren't there any black people that are like that and aren't simulating whites? Obama maybe?
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If by "simulate whites" you mean being professional, intelligent and driven, I guess. Aren't there any black people that are like that and aren't simulating whites? Obama maybe?
Donger watch the vid and then argue your point then I'll respond to any question(s)/point(s) you may have.
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Wutamess, not sure if you saw this thread, but what is your take on it? I have to deal with racial shit all the time in the Army, and somehow, it's never taken seriously if it's black to white... i.e. using the word cracker, joking about white stereotypes, etc. If it was white to black...the white persons career would be in jeopardy. Maybe their job will be replaced by somebody that got hired from the AA list.

P.S. The movie is buffering, I will get back to you.
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I'm not looking for handouts... Just for you to watch the video and understand our point of view and realize that we're not full of excuses.

We do (not me) tend to play the race card at wrong times and situations but sometimes it's warranted.
Don't know if you saw my earlier post about the convenient store and the barber shop incidents. I know this is not about ME per se, but I wonder if you would find those experiences I had satisfactory in helping me understand in some small way what it is like from your point of view?
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