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Old 02-15-2010, 10:10 PM  
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This is an excellent 47 minute long video. It's based off the older brown eyed blue eyed documentary done in the 60's.

Basically it goes to show people how we (black people) feel like we have to "play the game" to get by.

Of course YOU aren't the one's that enslaved us etc, and YOU may not be a racist but this is an excellent way to see how disadvantaged and how many obstacles we have when it comes to succeeding in life.

Here's the vid.
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=G6E0188O

Please watch it with an open mind and maybe see that we kinda have a point to feel that way instead of trying to defend how you're treated as we are.

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Old 02-16-2010, 10:32 AM   #76
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Did you watch the vid Donger? You of all people wont understand. We've been down this road before.
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:32 AM   #77
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I can't order some fuggin chicken at company dinners . I don't eat red meat and pork but I don't want to feed into the stereotypes of all we eat is chicken, greens and other soul foods.

I have to tip more to change the perception of black people don't tip.

Like the guy in the video, I have to try my best to bring out whiteness in my voice when talking to be taken seriously.

Like the video subtle differences but they're there.

Going with my second thought here but I'd much rather associate with someone, be it work or personal related that wasn't trying to be/act like something they are not.
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:32 AM   #78
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Sounds like you are insecure and blaming it on white people.
Sounds like you're being defensive and painting it as our problem.
WATCH THE VIDEO.
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:33 AM   #79
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Are you really serious? The teacher asked the same thing and it was decided that that was her defense mechanism to try to pin the problem on us when we haven't created the problem.
Of course not. They went through that exercise on the video.
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Going with my second thought here but I'd much rather associate with someone, be it work or personal related that wasn't trying to be/act like something they are not.
Hmmm... so now you're saying I should tell my coworkers I love hip hop and the culture. Not worrying about guilty by association?

You'll never understand.
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No.
You're always the one that I think tries to genuinely "understand" please watch the video and what I'm saying will all make sense to you.
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Old 02-16-2010, 10:35 AM   #82
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Sounds like you're being defensive and painting it as our problem.
WATCH THE VIDEO.
Defensive? Because you over-tip, talk white and are a closet chicken eater? You sir, are the one who is being defensive.
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Sounds like you are insecure and blaming it on white people.
That's it. I'm blaiming YOU personally.
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Defensive? Because you over-tip, talk white and are a closet chicken eater? You sir, are the one who is being defensive.
Mike please watch the video and then go back and read your ignorant statements.
You'll be more informed to argue your point than to just marginalize everything I'm typing.
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Hmmm... so now you're saying I should tell my coworkers I love hip hop and the culture. Not worrying about guilty by association?

You'll never understand.
Please please, lets not do the words in mouth deal.

Why do you have to tell them anything. Just go on about your business and be yourself .
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I can't order some fuggin chicken at company dinners . I don't eat red meat and pork but I don't want to feed into the stereotypes of all we eat is chicken, greens and other soul foods.

I have to tip more to change the perception of black people don't tip.

Like the guy in the video, I have to try my best to bring out whiteness in my voice when talking to be taken seriously.

Like the video subtle differences but they're there.
Just order the chicken. Nobody actually cares. Do not order the collard greens though. I will make a stupid joke if you order some collard greens.

I have a similar complaint. I find my voice dropping some ethnic slang when I hang out with a few black guys. What is up with that? I certainly don't do it intentionally but I catch myself breaking into that mode. I can't figure that out for the life of me.
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the problem with this situation is that as much as i sympathize, it doesn't seem like you'll ever realize that everyone goes through similar situations, though perhaps not to the same degree. you think that a white trash hick from sugar creek could go into a nice restaurant in JOCO and get the same kind of service as a rich white person?

though it's not the same as your struggle, it's still similar.
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Mike please watch the video and then go back and read your ignorant statements.
You are calling me ignorant? Sounds like its the black guy calling the kettle black.

I will humor you and watch it.
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Please please, lets not do the words in mouth deal.

Why do you have to tell them anything. Just go on about your business and be yourself .
Well being myself I like baggy jeans... Hip hop... flashy shirts, etc.
I don't like having to bring out my white voice as I'd rather be myself. But if I want to get ahead, I have to "play the game".

To you it's not being true to yourself. To me and other minorities it's a matter of survival.
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You're always the one that I think tries to genuinely "understand" please watch the video and what I'm saying will all make sense to you.
I clicked on the link, but it wants me to sign up for something. No thanks.

Besides, you just wrote about me: "You of all people wont understand."

So, why should I bother? That seems to be your default answer. No, I'll never know what it's like to be black. Just as you'll never know or understand what it's like to be white.
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