Life Would you buy a haunted house? - Page 9

**Rain Man** · 05-31-2009, 11:24 AM

There's a screaming deal on a haunted house not far from where I live. It's enormous, and I think I could convert it to an office given its zoning and a previous use as an office. However, there's the little matter of being haunted.

http://www.fullerproperties.com/sear...2a4e&propNo=11

It looks like it needs some work on the inside:

http://www.rockymountainparanormal.com/galleries/croke/

Some ghostly stuff:

http://www.ghostpi.com/Photos-Croke-...n-Campbell.htm

http://www.spiritpi.com/investigatio...ansion2005.htm

MMXcalibur · 01-28-2010, 12:27 PM

Personally, I wouldn't...but I'm a bit more superstitious. I won't go near a Ouija board. The less I have to do with the supernatural the better.

**Rain Man** · 01-28-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JohninGpt

Cool building. Buy it and open a B & B. Haunted B & B's are in these days.

That thought has crossed my mind as well, as a completely separate venture. In that case, you could valet park the cars and eliminate that problem, and this place would rock as a haunted B&B. You'd have to reconfigure some bathrooms and add some to make it work, but that's doable. It'd just add some more cost, and I think you could only have about 10 or 12 guest rooms anyway, so I'd have to run some numbers.

**Dave Lane** · 01-28-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

My Realtor pondered that, too. If I can get my wife to buy in, I'll look into that.

This place is a steal, I'm telling you. The challenge is that a person who can buy it as a residence isn't usually the type to want a fixer-upper, and it has no outdoor spaces other than one small deck. And the person who can buy it as an office has the parking problem. So it's in a tough 'tweener situation, much like a 250-pound defensive end in the draft.

If this was in KC you might be screwed as I'd be figuring out a way to make it work. Stunningly cool property. I collect/buy/sell antiques hence the Christies and Sothebys connections. Doubt there is any crossover between real estate and auctions. My collections would look awesome in there and I'd have the worlds coolest antique showroom. Maybe I could rent your carriage house

stlchiefs · 01-28-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

That thought has crossed my mind as well, as a completely separate venture. In that case, you could valet park the cars and eliminate that problem, and this place would rock as a haunted B&B. You'd have to reconfigure some bathrooms and add some to make it work, but that's doable. It'd just add some more cost, and I think you could only have about 10 or 12 guest rooms anyway, so I'd have to run some numbers.

Yep, check this place out in St. Louis. Same idea: http://www.lempmansion.com/

JohninGpt · 01-28-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stlchiefs

Yep, check this place out in St. Louis. Same idea: http://www.lempmansion.com/

I saw that one on TV. It belonged to a family of brewers with a tradition of suicide.

**Rain Man** · 01-28-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

If this was in KC you might be screwed as I'd be figuring out a way to make it work. Stunningly cool property. I collect/buy/sell antiques hence the Christies and Sothebys connections. Doubt there is any crossover between real estate and auctions. My collections would look awesome in there and I'd have the worlds coolest antique showroom. Maybe I could rent your carriage house

If I opened the bed & breakfast, you could display your antiques there for sale. Win-win.

I thought I saw somewhere recently that you lived in Colorado. No? I had thought you were a KC guy and was surprised by reading what I thought was a Colorado reference. Maybe I misread.

stlchiefs · 01-28-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JohninGpt

I saw that one on TV. It belonged to a family of brewers with a tradition of suicide.

Yep, that and early deaths is the short story of it all.

**mlyonsd** · 01-28-2010, 02:51 PM

If you don't buy it now you'll be a scaredy cat.

No matter what the reason is you come up with.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 01-28-2010, 03:43 PM

If you buy it, you could throw a Draft party there. Then after the draft, have a CP lock-in. Start by telling scary stories, then play a game where the first person to jump out of a 3rd story window loses.....then everyone else can have s'mores.

**Dave Lane** · 01-28-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

If I opened the bed & breakfast, you could display your antiques there for sale. Win-win.

I thought I saw somewhere recently that you lived in Colorado. No? I had thought you were a KC guy and was surprised by reading what I thought was a Colorado reference. Maybe I misread.

No KC always. I found a awesome link that shows almost every room. I'm not sure how you didn't piss your pants as cool as this place was. If I buy it and live in the 3rd floor you want to rent the lower 2 levels from me

I can have my antique store in the carriage house

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennare...te/3575464204/

JD10367 · 01-28-2010, 07:36 PM

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Frankie · 01-31-2010, 02:32 AM

Hey RainMan, I haven't read all of the posts here, but have you been asked if somebody has croked in that property?

**Rain Man** · 08-04-2012, 09:56 PM

So I really thought this place could be a great B&B if you could solve the parking issues. You could put a neighborhood coffee place in the front lobby and clean up as long as poltergeists didn't start killing people.

My wife wouldn't let me buy it, so some other people bought it for a song and are turning it into a B&B. Great move.

However, there still is that haunting issue: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_20923857

Denver fire crews race to Croke-Patterson mansion on Capitol Hill
POSTED: 06/23/2012 01:00:00 AM MDT
UPDATED: 06/23/2012 10:18:55 PM MDTBy Nick Groke
The Denver Post

Denver fire crews rushed to protect one of the city's oldest houses early Saturday morning after the famed Croke-Patterson Mansion caught fire.

The Denver Fire Department responded to smoke streaming from a second-floor window, on the northeast side of the house, at about 12:39 a.m., said Division Chief Steven Garrod.

Crews used an engine ladder to get into the mansion.

The fire appears to have started in a second-floor bedroom, Garrod said. Firefighters were able to contain the fire to the bedroom and quickly extinguish it.

The cause of the fire is under investigation. The house is currently under renovation and various construction materials were present.

More than seven engines, along with paramedics, arrived at the scene.

The house, a three-story, red sandstone mansion at 420 East 11th Avenue between Pennsylvania and Logan streets on Capitol Hill, was built in 1890. It has Denver, Colorado and national historic landmark designation.

But the house stood empty for several years as it shuttled in and out of ownership.

In recent months, the mansion was bought by C-P-C Mansion, LLC, and was being renovated into a bed and breakfast inn.

The house is also known as a stop on popular haunted house tours of the city.

The Croke-Patterson mansion is a "rare example of the use of Chateauesque style architecture in Denver," according to the Denver Library. Thomas B. Croke, a merchant, experimental plant breeder and state senator first lived in the house.

He later sold it to Thomas M. Patterson, a Colorado territorial and state congressman and senator who later worked as editor and publisher of the Rocky Mountain News until 1913.

**TimeForWasp** · 08-04-2012, 10:19 PM

That place looks awesome. I would in a second if I could afford it. Hauntings are bullshit.

**TimeForWasp** · 08-04-2012, 10:21 PM

Didn't read it all. Sucks about the fire.

View Poll Results: Recognizing that the price is low, would you buy this place as ... ?
Part 1: An office for your company?	11	9.24%
Definitely. Nice building, good price.	56	47.06%
Probably. Just put interns in the haunted parts.	19	15.97%
Maybe, but I'd pay more for a non-haunted building.	6	5.04%
Probably not. Ghosts aren't great for business.	13	10.92%
Definitely not. The spirits will destroy your accounts receivable.	6	5.04%
Part 2: A private home?	11	9.24%
Definitely. Looks cool.	55	46.22%
Probably. Just avoid the most haunted parts.	8	6.72%
Maybe, but I'd pay more for a non-haunted home.	11	9.24%
Probably not. Constant fear is bad for one's health.	16	13.45%
Definitely not. I don't want to die.	14	11.76%
I'd need to send in my medium before I could knowledgeably vote.	7	5.88%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 119. You may not vote on this poll

05-31-2009, 11:24 AM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-422449 VARSITY	Would you buy a haunted house? There's a screaming deal on a haunted house not far from where I live. It's enormous, and I think I could convert it to an office given its zoning and a previous use as an office. However, there's the little matter of being haunted. http://www.fullerproperties.com/sear...2a4e&propNo=11 It looks like it needs some work on the inside: http://www.rockymountainparanormal.com/galleries/croke/ Some ghostly stuff: http://www.ghostpi.com/Photos-Croke-...n-Campbell.htm http://www.spiritpi.com/investigatio...ansion2005.htm
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01-28-2010, 12:27 PM	#121
MMXcalibur Pessimistically optimistic. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $-144914	Personally, I wouldn't...but I'm a bit more superstitious. I won't go near a Ouija board. The less I have to do with the supernatural the better.
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01-28-2010, 02:51 PM	#128
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01-28-2010, 03:43 PM	#129
Kyle DeLexus Opie and Anthony XM 105 Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10002400	If you buy it, you could throw a Draft party there. Then after the draft, have a CP lock-in. Start by telling scary stories, then play a game where the first person to jump out of a 3rd story window loses.....then everyone else can have s'mores.
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01-28-2010, 07:36 PM	#131
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01-31-2010, 02:32 AM	#132
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Hey RainMan, I haven't read all of the posts here, but have you been asked if somebody has croked in that property?
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08-04-2012, 09:56 PM	#133
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-422449 VARSITY	So I really thought this place could be a great B&B if you could solve the parking issues. You could put a neighborhood coffee place in the front lobby and clean up as long as poltergeists didn't start killing people. My wife wouldn't let me buy it, so some other people bought it for a song and are turning it into a B&B. Great move. However, there still is that haunting issue: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_20923857 Denver fire crews race to Croke-Patterson mansion on Capitol Hill POSTED: 06/23/2012 01:00:00 AM MDT UPDATED: 06/23/2012 10:18:55 PM MDTBy Nick Groke The Denver Post Denver fire crews rushed to protect one of the city's oldest houses early Saturday morning after the famed Croke-Patterson Mansion caught fire. The Denver Fire Department responded to smoke streaming from a second-floor window, on the northeast side of the house, at about 12:39 a.m., said Division Chief Steven Garrod. Crews used an engine ladder to get into the mansion. The fire appears to have started in a second-floor bedroom, Garrod said. Firefighters were able to contain the fire to the bedroom and quickly extinguish it. The cause of the fire is under investigation. The house is currently under renovation and various construction materials were present. More than seven engines, along with paramedics, arrived at the scene. The house, a three-story, red sandstone mansion at 420 East 11th Avenue between Pennsylvania and Logan streets on Capitol Hill, was built in 1890. It has Denver, Colorado and national historic landmark designation. But the house stood empty for several years as it shuttled in and out of ownership. In recent months, the mansion was bought by C-P-C Mansion, LLC, and was being renovated into a bed and breakfast inn. The house is also known as a stop on popular haunted house tours of the city. The Croke-Patterson mansion is a "rare example of the use of Chateauesque style architecture in Denver," according to the Denver Library. Thomas B. Croke, a merchant, experimental plant breeder and state senator first lived in the house. He later sold it to Thomas M. Patterson, a Colorado territorial and state congressman and senator who later worked as editor and publisher of the Rocky Mountain News until 1913. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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08-04-2012, 10:19 PM	#134
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08-04-2012, 10:21 PM	#135
TimeForWasp Sprinkle in some Mahomes Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Butte Montana Casino cash: $7658507	Didn't read it all. Sucks about the fire. __________________ Posted via Slingshot using Rocks eBay sniper
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