SCHEFTER- Crennel to Chiefs Imminent

[SLAG]

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/7459154936

Originally Posted by Adam Schefter

It's likely to be a New England reunion: Now that Charlie Weis has agreed to work in Kansas City, Romeo Crennel will not be far behind.

Latest update orig posted by MR_Tomahawk:

Giants' candidate Crennel joins Chiefs

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/giants...ylzTTgr5Hj3wEI

6:28 PM, January 11, 2010 ι By PAUL SCHWARTZ
One-time Giants assistant and former Browns head coach Romeo Crennel will not be the new Giants defensive coordinator. Crennel has been hired to run the Chiefs defense.

Crenell never interviewed with Tom Coughlin but the Giants did express some interest.

One candidate Coughlin has already interviewed, former Bills head coach Perry Fewell, was in Chicago to speak with head coach Lovie Smith about the Bears defensive coordinator job. Fewell is considered the front-runner.

Fewell, once Coughlin's defensive backs coach with the Jaguars, met last Thursday with Coughlin with the understanding he was in the running for the Bears defensive coordinator job. Fewell worked in St. Louis and Chicago for Smith and it appears the two will work together again.

Another interesting possibility: Mike Zimmer. His contract will soon expire with the Bengals. Zimmer successfully ran the defenses for the Cowboys and Falcons and did a solid job this season in Cincinnati. Zimmer may attract some interest around the league as a potential head-coaching candidate.

Tom Cable is expected to be fired as head coach of the Raiders and if he is, Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride is again likely to get an interview. Gilbride last year interviewed for the job.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Does anyone hope that if the Chiefs won a SB that Hamas and Mecca would leave?

FYP

[FAX]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Yep. That's what I was talking about.
And Maybe Dane is right.
But this is all in reference to my statement saying that the tone would be different in person. Like I said. I'm a bartender on Sundays, and not even drunk people "discuss" football topics with each other in such a disrespectful manner, because if they did, they would probably be picking brown glass out of their scalp. Only pussies use a non personal platform to insult other people's opinions.

I think you may be right. I understand the frustration, but I don't understand the anger and the hate. Frankly, it gets in the way of any given topic and the entire shtick has gotten old.

I guess some people feel that they make themselves appear somehow better by demeaning others. Interestingly (and as Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins says; history bears this out), it actually merely makes them look kind of immature and stupid.

FAX

[The Bad Guy]

I find it incredible that Pioli was voted as exec of the year by his peers when he obviously knows nothing about being a general manager.

I just don't understand the ridiculous lengths that are gone here to discredit this guy based on ONE, yes, ONE season as this GM.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by FAX

Dude. For crying out loud ... go get some panties that fit. You're scaring the neighbors.

I'm not really merging or combining or confusing the concepts of wins or strides or anything else. Actually, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything ... anyhow ...

Every person you mention is part of the problem. Not part of the solution. Are you Google converting my nice, English posts into Swahili or something? Let me try once again ... try to remain calm ...

1) Leadership is very important in any enterprise. As a person interested in history, you should know this ... the Army figured it out a long time ago.

2) The team was and is bad ... very bad. Again, you cannot turn a team like this around in a brief time. There are problems everywhere and, because football is a team game, those problems affect every other individual player's performance.

3) Pioli and Haley are rookies in their roles. It will take time for them to acclimate, organize, and implement their plans. Rightly or wrongly, it is too early to tell whether or not they are taking us in the best direction.

4) This team was undisciplined. As a fan of the Chiefs, I'm pleased to see Haley bring that needed discipline to the franchise. And, it was sorely needed. It is this kind of foundation that, if Haley is successful, will serve us well in future.

There's much more I could say, but in short (and I don't want to repeat this again), it's far too early to tell whether or not Pioli and Haley are going to win at Kansas City. Their goals are well-stated; they want to build a team that competes year in and year out for the playoffs and the Super Bowl. That means it won't be difficult to tell if they've failed or not. In the meantime, it's just silly to second guess someone who is stirring a giant pile of turds with a stick.

FAX

Bow before Fax.

He owns you ALL

Accuse me of following Fax, and throwing "Yeahs"? Damn straight. I share his opinions.
He is truly making observations with his brain, and not his hatred.

And let's just get it straight right now. If Pioli had gotten the horsemen's loverboy Sanchez, they would be all over his balls, because once we declined to take that route, their opinions of him soured, and they have been bashing him ever since. Get over it guys. Sanchez is gone.....and I'm glad. If Cassel doesn't work out we'll have to get someone else, but I'm glad it's not Sanchez.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

If your opinions are thought out and researched, why the hell are you so wrong all of the time?

I'm right a hell of a lot more often than your ass (Colt McCoy as a first rounder).

And when I'm wrong, I admit it.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Bow before Fax.

He owns you ALL

Accuse me of following Fax, and throwing "Yeahs"? Damn straight. I share his opinions.
He is truly making observations with his brain, and not his hatred.

And let's just get it straight right now. If Pioli had gotten the horsemen's loverboy Sanchez, they would be all over his balls, because once we declined to take that route, their opinions of him soured, and they have been bashing him ever since. Get over it guys. Sanchez is gone.....and I'm glad. If Cassel doesn't work out we'll have to get someone else, but I'm glad it's not Sanchez.

Who is the one who continually brings the NYJ's quarterback into every discussion?

Am I the only one blind to the irony of this?

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by FAX

I guess some people feel that they make themselves appear somehow better by demeaning others. Interestingly (and as Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins says; history bears this out), it actually merely makes them look kind of immature and stupid.

FAX

I've been guilty of this a lot over the years.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by FAX

I think you may be right. I understand the frustration, but I don't understand the anger and the hate. Frankly, it gets in the way of any given topic and the entire shtick has gotten old.

I guess some people feel that they make themselves appear somehow better by demeaning others. Interestingly (and as Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins says; history bears this out), it actually merely makes them look kind of immature and stupid.

FAX

Demeaning stupid people has nothing to do with propping oneself up. It has everything to do with letting the stupid person know that they are saying dumbass shit.

[Tribal Warfare]

Damn it, and I thought this Ed Hartwell negotiations, Pioli is one sly bastard raking that guy in by using the Crennel speculation as smokescreen . Ed ****ing Hartwell bitches, in another 48 glorious hours!!!!!!

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

You're about a page behind in this conversation.

I constructed a false binary, placed you into it, and you immediately got defensive. Why you're going back to your initial comments about OTW and Dane is a bit of mystery.

I know exactly what you did and if you hadn't been a page behind (yourself) and come behind my own personal acknowledgment of a mistake... You wouldn't look like a huge asshole after a porn shoot.

The way you've been acting with this 4H shit has been indicative of some insecure bullshit lately.

I love it when people assign real world values to a message board. What on Earth would I ever need to be insecure about concerning a forum?

If you think someone's wrong, debate the point. Make a stronger argument. Instead, you've gone 4H, which is little more than an extension of Hootie's "drafterbators."

I appreciate the kind words sweetcheeks, but I'm more than comfortable with making my own arguments. And making them well. I always have. If you'd like to reduce me to the 4H blasts knock yourself out, but that's not consistent with the truth.

****, man, don't go full Pioli. Bring some original trash to the table if you're going to sling it.

(I'd like to thank the Four Horsemen for writing this post and allowing me to use it.)

The Four Horsemen smack is original and it's being run by several other posters now. There's a larger point. Either you get it or you don't, but don't blame me for being one of the first posters to either recognize or have stones enough to call it.

I would ask you why you'd give two shits about how I address a group of posters other than yourself, but that might be redundant.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Demeaning stupid people has nothing to do with propping oneself up. It has everything to do with letting the stupid person know that they are saying dumbass shit.

This is how someone who was unknowing guilty of such a thing would retort to this post.

How else would you reply?

[DeezNutz]

Yeah, you get it.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Micjones

I
The Four Horsemen smack is original and it's being run by several other posters now. There's a larger point. Either you get it or you don't, but don't blame me for being one of the first posters to either recognize or have stones enough to call it.

No, it's derivative. It's the same stupid shit as Hootie calling people drafturbators last year.

Congratulations, we've reached the offseason where hope, rainbows, and unicorns spring eternal and the mere idea that the Chiefs could be good means that they will be good.

The same stupid shit happened last year. People overrode critical thinking with hope and marginalized people who used the former?

What happened?

Well the marginalized people were right. The season bore that out.

Now the process repeats itself.

And what have you learned?

Not a goddamned thing.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

FAX, the following questions

1) Who said anything about leadership? Furthermore, how has Todd Haley demonstrated leadership? Is mother****ing players and flipping off fans leadership just because it's tough? At what point does that mutate to a loss of control?

Well, I think I mentioned it first ... that we (as a team) were lacking leadership. You then commented on it in a later post.

As for the "control" issue ... it's interesting to me that people have made such a big deal of the possibility that Haley would "lose control" or "lose the players" or "lose the lockerroom". Bowe's situation has been an example of this. Actually, there's no evidence of that, whatsoever. In fact, public evidence seems to indicate just the opposite.

It's as though the media says, "Haley's a duck!". The next thing you know, the fans are looking for feathers.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

2) That's a complete dodge. I said nothing about the team doing a 180. What I'm looking for are signs that the barge is being slowly turned around. I see it from a few players, but from none of the sacred cows of the new regime. How does that inspire confidence?

The "signs" you seek may not be obvious (I thought I already said this?). In fact, they may not exist at all. Why? We've been over this a million, freaking times ... we were and are horrific, it's too early, Pioli and Haley are rookies ... (nope ... I'm not typing all that crap out again).

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

3) Where was this "rookie" excuse when people thought we would challenge for .500 based on coaching and Pioli alone last year? Why are the goalposts now being moved?

So ... let me get this straight ... you want me to defend what other people said about .500 records in 2009? Please. Do you think me a fool?

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

4)FAX, other than fat camp, what makes you think that this team is any more disciplined than past teams? On the field they displayed a lot less discipline than past years, and so did the coach, who couldn't even restrain himself from telling a paying customer to **** off.

That's discipline?

Ok.

I think that Haley has, in fact, brought discipline. I think the conditioning regimen is an example of this. I think his benching of Bowe and DJ are examples, as well.

Don't get your feelings hurt by Haley's terrible, fiery temper. Just avert your eyes, if you must.

FAX

[keg in kc]

It's the internet. Easy to be aggressive when you can hide behind a handle and there's no accountability of any kind for what you're saying. It's different in the real world when you're looking into a real person's eyes. I don't mean that in a "you're a pussy, you wouldn't say that to my face" sense, though, I mean that in the sense that it's easier to dismiss people out of hand when you can't see them or be seen yourself. There's a dynamic, a level of instinctive respect that's lost when everybody is anonymous and can do or say pretty much anything they want.

I know that my own behavior changed when I started to think about the people on the other side of the screen as living, breathing (often mouth-breathing, cough) human beings, and I began trying to treat them the way I wanted to be treated.

It's still hard, sometimes.