Chiefs SCHEFTER- Crennel to Chiefs Imminent - Page 36

SLAG · 05:54 PM

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/7459154936

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Originally Posted by Adam Schefter

It's likely to be a New England reunion: Now that Charlie Weis has agreed to work in Kansas City, Romeo Crennel will not be far behind.

Latest update orig posted by MR_Tomahawk:

Giants' candidate Crennel joins Chiefs

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/giants...ylzTTgr5Hj3wEI

6:28 PM, January 11, 2010 ι By PAUL SCHWARTZ
One-time Giants assistant and former Browns head coach Romeo Crennel will not be the new Giants defensive coordinator. Crennel has been hired to run the Chiefs defense.

Crenell never interviewed with Tom Coughlin but the Giants did express some interest.

One candidate Coughlin has already interviewed, former Bills head coach Perry Fewell, was in Chicago to speak with head coach Lovie Smith about the Bears defensive coordinator job. Fewell is considered the front-runner.

Fewell, once Coughlin's defensive backs coach with the Jaguars, met last Thursday with Coughlin with the understanding he was in the running for the Bears defensive coordinator job. Fewell worked in St. Louis and Chicago for Smith and it appears the two will work together again.

Another interesting possibility: Mike Zimmer. His contract will soon expire with the Bengals. Zimmer successfully ran the defenses for the Cowboys and Falcons and did a solid job this season in Cincinnati. Zimmer may attract some interest around the league as a potential head-coaching candidate.

Tom Cable is expected to be fired as head coach of the Raiders and if he is, Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride is again likely to get an interview. Gilbride last year interviewed for the job.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-12-2010, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

First, Richard Seymore MAY walk through that door. Doubt it, but possibly.

Now, on to the bigger point. Coaches are hired based on familiarity and compatability. Due to this, guys usually hire other guys they have worked with.

They can't duplicate the situation in New England. I get that. But, they can establish a program. This team is still in need of so much. And, you have to get to a level of competency, before you can hope to go further than that. Coaches and rosters are similar in that they can be tweaked every offseason. Right now, the Chiefs are still trying to get the foundation laid.

Establishing a program is just another PR phrase.

It's about bringing in the best players and the best people to coach them up. What I've seen for the first year is a pattern of myopia in hiring and player acquisitions that point to an inability of this regime to see things beyond the bounds of how they happened in New England.

Sure-Oz · 01-12-2010, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Does anyone else get the feeling that if the Chiefs won a SB that Hamas and Mecca would leave?

Nah, they are just very critical and detailed imo

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-12-2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Are you really saying that Parcells had little to no success with the Jets? You continue to be a fool.

Are you ****ing serious?

Of course not. That team never won anything. Nor was it ever even close to winning anything.

SenselessChiefsFan · 01-12-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I guess your idea of "success" is different from others.

One playoff win over 3 years isn't my hope for the Chiefs, nor should it be for anyone.

Parcells left after that period.

If two years from now, the Chiefs had won a playoff game, I would feel like the Chiefs were on the right path. I don't expect Haley to move on at that point. And, if Weis or Crennel move on, the key is to have the systems in place so that they can be replaced by someone on the staff.

The key is getting a good system in place and continuing to build.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-12-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Parcells left after that period.

If two years from now, the Chiefs had won a playoff game, I would feel like the Chiefs were on the right path. I don't expect Haley to move on at that point. And, if Weis or Crennel move on, the key is to have the systems in place so that they can be replaced by someone on the staff.

The key is getting a good system in place and continuing to build.

No, the key is getting in good players. That's all that ever mattered. The same "system" that worked so well in Dallas in 1993 didn't work worth a shit in Miami in 1999.

The "system" that worked so well in New York in the mid 1980s didn't work worth a shit in Dallas in the mid 2000s.

Why?

Talent.

SenselessChiefsFan · 01-12-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Establishing a program is just another PR phrase.

It's about bringing in the best players and the best people to coach them up. What I've seen for the first year is a pattern of myopia in hiring and player acquisitions that point to an inability of this regime to see things beyond the bounds of how they happened in New England.

What you see is a belief system. This is not a bad thing. See, there are many different ways to build a team. The good ones stick to one and go with it. They don't change every year because it didn't progress as fast as they wanted.

I am not saying there is no other way to build a champion. But, Parcells and Belichick have both won multiple Super Bowls with the same philosophy. I am okay with that being the Chiefs' philosophy.

And, building a system isn't a PR phrase in my mind, it is a fact of turning around a 2-14 team.

I still hate the fact that they cut Pollard. I still think it was a mistake. But, I wasn't in the lockeroom, and it isn't all about talent alone.

There are a ton of 'talented' teams that never win anything. The key is getting the entire organization going in the same direction.

SenselessChiefsFan · 01-12-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No, the key is getting in good players. That's all that ever mattered. The same "system" that worked so well in Dallas in 1993 didn't work worth a shit in Miami in 1999.

The "system" that worked so well in New York in the mid 1980s didn't work worth a shit in Dallas in the mid 2000s.

Why?

Talent.

Oh, so you think that the Chiefs will quit trying to get better talent now that they have the coordinators?

No, of course not. They will still continue to acquire talent. And some of those moves will work, and some won't. Same as every team.

Belichick went 5-11 his first year in NE. He had a lot of guys from the Parcells staff in NY. But, they kept building.

The key is to get the foundation laid, the system in place and then continue to build.

But, rest assured, they will continue to find talent.

Oh, and Jimmy Johnson didn't have that many coaches with him from the Dallas days in Miami. Just an FYI.

Chiefnj2 · 01-12-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Are you ****ing serious?

Of course not. That team never won anything. Nor was it ever even close to winning anything.

He took a team that had 4 wins over its previous two seasons and took them to 9-7 his first year. His second year they went 12-4 and to the Conference Championship. That is a dramatic improvement you brain damaged weasel.

Chiefnj2 · 01-12-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Does anyone else get the feeling that if the Chiefs won a SB that Hamas and Mecca would leave?

No, they would just complain about the final score and that Pioli didn't do enough to build a dynasty.

TRR · 01-12-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SLAG

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/7459154936

Latest update orig posted by MR_Tomahawk:

Giants' candidate Crennel joins Chiefs

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/giants...ylzTTgr5Hj3wEI

6:28 PM, January 11, 2010 ι By PAUL SCHWARTZ
One-time Giants assistant and former Browns head coach Romeo Crennel will not be the new Giants defensive coordinator. Crennel has been hired to run the Chiefs defense.

Crenell never interviewed with Tom Coughlin but the Giants did express some interest.

One candidate Coughlin has already interviewed, former Bills head coach Perry Fewell, was in Chicago to speak with head coach Lovie Smith about the Bears defensive coordinator job. Fewell is considered the front-runner.

Fewell, once Coughlin's defensive backs coach with the Jaguars, met last Thursday with Coughlin with the understanding he was in the running for the Bears defensive coordinator job. Fewell worked in St. Louis and Chicago for Smith and it appears the two will work together again.

Another interesting possibility: Mike Zimmer. His contract will soon expire with the Bengals. Zimmer successfully ran the defenses for the Cowboys and Falcons and did a solid job this season in Cincinnati. Zimmer may attract some interest around the league as a potential head-coaching candidate.

Tom Cable is expected to be fired as head coach of the Raiders and if he is, Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride is again likely to get an interview. Gilbride last year interviewed for the job.

On the same website today, there is an article that states both Crennel and Fewell are still unsigned contrary to reports, and are still on the Giants radar.
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'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-12-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

He took a team that had 4 wins over its previous two seasons and took them to 9-7 his first year. His second year they went 12-4 and to the Conference Championship. That is a dramatic improvement you brain damaged weasel.

So now improvement is substituted for winning.

Nice.

Next, participation ribbons.

Stinger · 01-12-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Establishing a program is just another PR phrase.

It's about bringing in the best players and the best people to coach them up. What I've seen for the first year is a pattern of myopia in hiring and player acquisitions that point to an inability of this regime to see things beyond the bounds of how they happened in New England.

Just so I am understanding you correctly.......... That if something is proven to be a success you should not try to emulate it but go your own way and try to find your own nitch?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-12-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Oh, so you think that the Chiefs will quit trying to get better talent now that they have the coordinators?

No, of course not. They will still continue to acquire talent. And some of those moves will work, and some won't. Same as every team.

Belichick went 5-11 his first year in NE. He had a lot of guys from the Parcells staff in NY. But, they kept building.

The key is to get the foundation laid, the system in place and then continue to build.

But, rest assured, they will continue to find talent.

Oh, and Jimmy Johnson didn't have that many coaches with him from the Dallas days in Miami. Just an FYI.

Don't be so dumb.

Think about it. It's not that they'll stop trying to acquire talent, it's that they only seem to look to the narrowest avenues from which to find ideas and talent.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-12-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinger

Just so I am understanding you correctly.......... That if something is proven to be a success you should not try to emulate it but go your own way and try to find your own nitch?

You can borrow some things from it. Sure, adopt ideas from those who have been successful. But don't completely Xerox the "blueprint", leaving out the most important elements, and think that you'll be successful.

Again, reading comprehension.

Micjones · 01-12-2010, 11:46 AM

Yes, they previously held Coordinator jobs with the New England Patriots.
That said, can we really argue that they aren't fully qualified and among the VERY BEST candidates available for these vacancies?

Well... I suppose there are 4 people here who can.

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