Chiefs **** You Scott Pioli - Page 7

Titty Meat · 08-29-2009, 06:30 PM

Who spends all that money on a QB and doesn't upgrade the o-line? **** you.

Mecca · 08-29-2009, 09:42 PM

The Chiefs had the chance to use 2nd day picks on Duke Robinson and Jamon Meredith I still can't believe they didn't do that.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-29-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The Chiefs had the chance to use 2nd day picks on Duke Robinson and Jamon Meredith I still can't believe they didn't do that.

Exactly.

IMO, take either Magee or Jackson. Don't take both when your offensive line is the worst in the entire league.

Especially when Dorsey, your #5 from the previous year, plays the same spot.

Mecca · 08-29-2009, 09:45 PM

If you had told anyone before the draft the Chiefs could have had Robinson and Meredith with their 4th and 5th round selections and didn't do that and even took Colin Brown instead with one of the picks.....imagine the reaction you'd have gotten.

**The Bad Guy** · 08-29-2009, 09:47 PM

Can someone shoot this stupid bastard?

Mecca · 08-29-2009, 09:47 PM

You'd have to shoot Smed first.

MadMax · 08-29-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The Chiefs OL is the same guys aside from a 35 year old guard and some scrubs from Miami...

I don't think that is adequately addressing the line in the same year you decided go go get your "franchise QB".

Sounds eerily similar to Carl doesn't it? Same ol shit

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-29-2009, 11:11 PM

One of the best things Bill Simmons ever said was that every team needs a VP of common sense. Putting the QB debate aside, Cassel was their guy, they were obviously committed to him. At the same time, this regime puts a lot of emphasis on the D-Line, but they had to look at that O-Line and realize that it could only protect and "run block" from the pistol last year...which basically means it couldn't do either.

Looking back, if the Chiefs were so dead set on Cassel, and they really wanted to upgrade the D-Line, why not take this approach:

Raji/Jackson
Cassel
Magee
Luigs
Meredith

And they still had 3 picks to spend on their pet projects in the late rounds.

Sometimes, I think sports franchises get so preoccupied with deking other franchises that they do the most illogical thing rather than just making sensible moves.

Mecca · 08-29-2009, 11:13 PM

Sports is full of front office people who have worked in the league for to long. Guys who have been doing the shit for so long all common sense has been lost all rational thinking is gone. Guys who really think they are smarter than everyone else and don't logically look at things..

This is rampant in every sport, baseball more than any other.

Titty Meat · 08-30-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Billay,

I've been very disappointed with the front office in regards to the offensive line since free-agency begin and with the draft. Say what you will guys about the sucky defense but the Chiefs don't have a $63 million dollar player to protect on that side of the ball.

It was a major mistake to take Magee, then Washington, then Brown when viable offensive lineman were available at those spots.

Oh well...

Yup and I've been a staunch Pioli supporter but look at how shitty the o-line has played and its amazing that only a few members on here will say anything about it. I guess the others will come along when the media starts to point it out. Pioli is good at finding talent, however he should have found some talent for his 63 million dollar franchise Quarterback.

Just Passin' By · 08-30-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Yup and I've been a staunch Pioli supporter but look at how shitty the o-line has played and its amazing that only a few members on here will say anything about it. I guess the others will come along when the media starts to point it out. Pioli is good at finding talent, however he should have found some talent for his 63 million dollar franchise Quarterback.

Out of 52 players on this roster (Gonzalez needed to be traded for the good of the future, despite his still being a quality player, and he'd said he planned to retire in a couple of years) when Pioli took over, exactly how many did you honestly think were talented enough to be quality starters on this team 2-3 years down the line?

When you realize that the number was fewer than 10, and probably fewer than 5, perhaps you can understand why not everything could be done at once. The quarterback was available this year, so he grabbed him while he could, since you don't wait on that position if you feel you can get a good one. The rest will happen over time. In the meantime, the team will look to the waiver wire for depth and possible upgrades.

I was surprised that Pioli didn't go after Hochstein from the Patriots, but McDaniels grabbed him, so it may have been a "first come, first serve" situation.

Titty Meat · 08-30-2009, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Out of 52 players on this roster (Gonzalez needed to be traded for the good of the future, despite his still being a quality player, and he'd said he planned to retire in a couple of years) when Pioli took over, exactly how many did you honestly think were talented enough to be quality starters on this team 2-3 years down the line?

When you realize that the number was fewer than 10, and probably fewer than 5, perhaps you can understand why not everything could be done at once. The quarterback was available this year, so he grabbed him while he could, since you don't wait on that position if you feel you can get a good one. The rest will happen over time. In the meantime, the team will look to the waiver wire for depth and possible upgrades.

I was surprised that Pioli didn't go after Hochstein from the Patriots, but McDaniels grabbed him, so it may have been a "first come, first serve" situation.

I think ya'll have been trained by Carl Peterson to think not everything can be done in a year. If your GM can't find a servicable Center or Right Tackle that says alot. This team won't be a contender 2-3 years down the road if its franchise QB is rehabing from a knee injury.

Just Passin' By · 08-30-2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

I think ya'll have been trained by Carl Peterson to think not everything can be done in a year. If your GM can't find a servicable Center or Right Tackle that says alot. This team won't be a contender 2-3 years down the road if its franchise QB is rehabing from a knee injury.

No team does everything in a year. It doesn't happen. The Chiefs may have had the worst roster in the NFL when Peterson and Herm got the axe, and that will take years to deal with. As for the right tackle and center claim, it's just a ridiculous expectation to think that the team should follow your particular prescription for rebuilding.

Titty Meat · 08-30-2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

No team does everything in a year. It doesn't happen. The Chiefs may have had the worst roster in the NFL when Peterson and Herm got the axe, and that will take years to deal with. As for the right tackle and center claim, it's just a ridiculous expectation to think that the team should follow your particular prescription for rebuilding.

Bullshit. The Dolphins upgraded there O-line last year by drafting Long and signing Smiley. They didn't even have a franchise Quarterback either.

Just Passin' By · 08-30-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Bullshit. The Dolphins upgraded there O-line last year by drafting Long and signing Smiley. They didn't even have a franchise Quarterback either.

Who gives a shit what the Dolphins did? They were a different team. The Chiefs upgraded the defensive line by drafting Jackson. They already had a left tackle. And, I haven't seen a 'Chad Pennington' situation develop with a center or right tackle in the past could of weeks, have you?

Frankly, if you want to evaluate the Dolphins based upon the draft and their needs at that time, they screwed up. They should have taken Ryan. The Favre situation changed everything.

Titty Meat · 08-30-2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Who gives a shit what the Dolphins did? They were a different team. The Chiefs upgraded the defensive line by drafting Jackson. They already had a left tackle. And, I haven't seen a 'Chad Pennington' situation develop with a center or right tackle in the past could of weeks, have you?

You're a ****ing moron. You said teams can't improve a position in a year and I jsut gave you an example of how the Dolphins upgraded the o-line in a season. It has nothing to do with Chad Pennington.

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08-29-2009, 11:11 PM	#97
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7289572	One of the best things Bill Simmons ever said was that every team needs a VP of common sense. Putting the QB debate aside, Cassel was their guy, they were obviously committed to him. At the same time, this regime puts a lot of emphasis on the D-Line, but they had to look at that O-Line and realize that it could only protect and "run block" from the pistol last year...which basically means it couldn't do either. Looking back, if the Chiefs were so dead set on Cassel, and they really wanted to upgrade the D-Line, why not take this approach: Raji/Jackson Cassel Magee Luigs Meredith And they still had 3 picks to spend on their pet projects in the late rounds. Sometimes, I think sports franchises get so preoccupied with deking other franchises that they do the most illogical thing rather than just making sensible moves. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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08-29-2009, 11:13 PM	#98
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-462950	Sports is full of front office people who have worked in the league for to long. Guys who have been doing the shit for so long all common sense has been lost all rational thinking is gone. Guys who really think they are smarter than everyone else and don't logically look at things.. This is rampant in every sport, baseball more than any other.
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