Cassel > Cutler by Mel Kiper Jr.

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Mel says Cassel is better than Cutler


This week, Jay Cutler's moaning has distracted Mel Kiper Jr. from his usual draft content. "Talk about whining and complaining -- this is at the top of the list," Kiper says.
Kiper: Cassel > Cutler

Cutler's complaining came about because the Denver Broncos tried to trade Cutler in a three-team deal that would have brought over Matt Cassel from New England. But when the trade fell through, Cutler started to complain.

Kiper says Cassel would have been an "upgrade" over Cutler and that Cutler is, to put it mildly, overrated. "[Cutler] throws one pass, he's a Hall of Famer," Kiper says. "I've seen the media put him in the Hall of Fame. I had to run to the bathroom quick. It was making me ill. I've been hearing this overhype. "This guy was overhyped at the combine, he was overhyped at Senior Bowl week, he's been overhyped before he was drafted. The media, they love Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler can do no wrong. I've been saying he's overrated since day one. Everyone's been pounding their chests saying, 'Oh, I love Jay Cutler, I'm a genius.' They have egg on their face now." Kiper points out that Cutler has yet to lead the Broncos to a winning record or a playoff appearance. Also, Kiper says, "[Cutler] makes throws that leave you scratching your head, which I said on draft day when he was picked. Yeah, he's got a strong arm, but my daughter knew he had a strong arm. She could've written that report."

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Kiper compares Cutler to Jeff George. "Jeff George had a great arm, and Jeff George had a lot of great games in this league, and people were putting Jeff George in the HOF early in his career," Kiper says. "So I'm just telling you, this is ridiculous." Also, Cutler once said he had a better arm than John Elway. Not surprisingly, Kiper isn't a big fan of that comment, either. "So what? Who cares? Why would you make a comparison to John Elway? That could be taken like you're in a position to critique the quarterback that is a legend."
Cornerbacks

Back to discussing the draft. "There isn't that one true shutdown cornerback available this year," Kiper says. "And after the subpar 40 times run by the defensive backs at the combine workout, this position isn't really as strong or as deep as originally anticipated." Michael Jenkins, Ohio State: "Jenkins is barely maintaining his spot as the No. 1 cornerback," Kiper says. Although Kiper points out that Jenkins "brings a ton of experience and sound technique to the position," he ran a 4.55 40-yard dash at the combine, which makes Kiper worry whether he's worthy of first-round consideration. Vontae Davis, Illinois: Davis is on Jenkins' heels as the top cornerback in this class. But "he lacks the necessary consistency and is still a work in progress," Kiper says. "But physically, he has the awesome physical talent you look for to warrant a first-round grade." D.J. Moore, Vanderbilt: Kiper says he has impressive cover skills, good return skills, smooth hips and good ball skills, but he lacks good recovery speed. Alphonso Smith, Wake Forest: "The 5-9, 193-pounder would be a first-round lock if he were a few inches taller and a bit faster," Kiper says. Darius Butler, Connecticut: Butler is a multiskilled athlete with outstanding recovery speed, Kiper says. Butler also saw action on offense, with nine receptions, and is a solid kick returner.

Underrated: Donald Washington, Ohio State: Washington left school early, a move that many people questioned, but Kiper says he is a solid second-rounder and will draw consideration in the latter portion of Round 1. "He has the physical skills you look for," Kiper says.

Others with early-round potential

• Jairus Byrd, Oregon
• Keenan Lewis, Oregon State
• Brandon Hughes, Oregon State
• Captain Munnerlyn, South Carolina
• Sean Smith, Utah
• Asher Allen, Georgia
• Jerraud Powers, Auburn

Safeties

Because USC's Taylor Mays opted to return to school, there isn't a true star at safety in this draft, Kiper says. William Moore, Missouri: After his junior season, in which he made eight interceptions, he was considered a first-round pick. But Kiper says a foot injury early in his senior season caused him to have just one pick last season. However, he ran an "impressive" 4.5-second 40-yard dash at the NFL combine. "He could turn out to be a steal in Round 2," Kiper says. Louis Delmas, Western Michigan: "A true ball hawk at free safety." Rashad Johnson, Alabama: "Had a spectacular year in the SEC, evidenced by his three-interception performance against LSU back in early November," Kiper says. He adds that Johnson is smart and instinctive, with his only weakness being a lack of ideal size (5-foot-11, 202 pounds). Others with early-round potential

• Emanuel Cook, South Carolina
• Patrick Chung, Oregon
• Sherrod Martin, Troy
• Darcel McBath, Texas Tech
• Chip Vaughn, Wake Forest
• David Bruton, Notre Dame
• Michael Hamlin, Clemson

Outside linebackers

"While there are several high-profile inside linebackers, there's no question the outside linebacker spot is much better when it comes to talent and overall depth," Kiper says. He predicts that as many as four outside linebackers could be chosen in Round 1 of the draft. Aaron Curry, Wake Forest: Curry is the top player on Kiper's draft board. The multidimensional linebacker gets "high grades in all aspects of outside linebacker play." Kiper says he is destined to be a perennial Pro Bowler. Brian Cushing, USC: Kiper says Cushing is able to perform effectively in a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme. Also, he is more "proven and battle-tested" than his teammate Clay Matthews. Clay Matthews, USC: Matthews is in the Mike Vrabel mold and excels as a pass-rusher, Kiper reports. He is rocketing up draft boards after one season as a starter at USC. Larry English, Northern Illinois: "He was a force to be reckoned with with the Huskies." Clint Sintim, Virginia: "He has the talent and wingspan to operate on his feet or shift to a down defensive end position." He likely will be drafted in the second round. Inside linebackers

Rey Maualuga, USC: "He ranks as one of the hardest-hitting tacklers you will ever come across." James Laurinaitis, Ohio State: "He isn't flashy and lacks awesome computer numbers, but he gets extremely high grades in the consistency department." Kiper believes he needs to be protected by quality defensive tackle play. Others with early-round potential

• Jason Phillips, TCU
• Scott McKillop, Pittsburgh
• Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
• Gerald McRath, Southern Mississippi
• Darry Beckwith, LSU

T.O.'s replacement?

With Terrell Owens gone, Kiper thinks Roy Williams will have to step up and be the No. 1 receiver in Dallas. "When he was at [the University of] Texas, he had great talent -- he flashed it time and time again." But Kiper believes Williams needs to be more assertive. "Don't be necessarily T.O. or Randy Moss. But you've got to go out there and have a little bit of an attitude -- a little chip on your shoulder," Kiper says. So who will play opposite Williams? Kiper says the Cowboys could find a quick slot receiver in the second round, like Brian Robiskie from Ohio State or Juaquin Iglesias from Oklahoma. Or they could roll the dice and go for Pat White from West Virginia, a quarterback whom many teams view as a wide receiver. Kiper says White could be the next Antwaan Randle El. But those are the Cowboys' options only if Hakeem Nicks (North Carolina) and Kenny Britt (Rutgers) are off the board by the time the Cowboys make their first pick of the draft in Round 2.








LOL. Cutler fans have egg on their face.... hahaha what a great insult.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yeah, I'm surprised it hasn't been talked about more.

The Cutler-McKid drama is soap opera stuff for the idiotic masses (Planet company excluded, of course).
B-Marsh and that psycho bitch of his have once again pinged the police radar and The Commish is sure to bring the hammer down.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by vailpass

The Patsy system is no secret. Cutler mastered Shanny's offense which is leaps and bounds more complex than the NE "use the TE as a third WR and work for YAC instead of long downfield strikes" offense. Both QBs can master the system, why choose the one with inferior physical skills who has no rapport with the WRs?

Dance, FailAss; dance for us!

[Kerberos]

Originally Posted by vailpass

The Cutler-McKid drama is soap opera stuff for the idiotic masses (Planet company excluded, of course).
B-Marsh and that psycho bitch of his have once again pinged the police radar and The Commish is sure to bring the hammer down.

Someone needs to let B-Marsh know that there are a LOT more fish in the sea. Sounds to me like this bitch has some kind of mojo working over him?

[talastan]

Originally Posted by vailpass

The Cutler-McKid drama is soap opera stuff for the idiotic masses (Planet company excluded, of course).
B-Marsh and that psycho bitch of his have once again pinged the police radar and The Commish is sure to bring the hammer down.

What do we expect this time? 4 to 8 games? This is what his fourth arrest IIRC...I really haven't paid too much attention.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Kerberos

Someone needs to let B-Marsh know that there are a LOT more fish in the sea. Sounds to me like this bitch has some kind of mojo working over him?

Abso-frigging-lutely.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by talastan

What do we expect this time? 4 to 8 games? This is what his fourth arrest IIRC...I really haven't paid too much attention.

No arrest, no charges. Doesn't matter to Commish, the hammer will drop this time. 4+ games is definetely possible.

[jAZ]

Give Kiper credit here... a little, anyway.

http://www.nyjetschat.com/forum/lofi...hp?t14252.html

Kiper's Combine Update (2/28)
Tuesday, February 28, 2006
Personnel Points on NFL combine

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By Mel Kiper Jr.
Special to ESPN Insider

Quarterback
Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt (6-4, 230)
He is fast becoming one of the most overhyped players in this draft. Cutler was OK, but not great, at the Senior Bowl, but he's drawing all these rave reviews at the NFL scouting combine. He hasn't done anything at the combine that has wowed me to move him up in the draft.

Jay Cutler is going to be a top-15 pick, but does not rank as high QBs Matt Leinart or Vince Young.

Cutler hasn't improved his draft position by what he did at the Senior Bowl or combine. He had a good senior season and finished strong. If you like Cutler based on how he finished the season, that's fine, but don't think that he's moved up dramatically based on the Senior Bowl and combine.

He's going to go in the top 15 of the first round and might even go in the top five. But what he's done since the season ended doesn't put him up with Matt Leinart or Vince Young.

I still have him in the top 10 of the draft, but you shouldn't think he'll be a top-three pick.

[FringeNC]

Who's better? Jay Cutler or Tom Brady? I'll take Brady, yet he has inferior physical tools compared to Cutler. Physical skills of QBs are over-weighted on here. All other things equal, the guy with the better physical skills is going to be the better QB. But in the case of Cutler and Cassel, are all other things equal? McDaniels obviously thinks not.

[blaise]

Originally Posted by jAZ

Give Kiper credit here... a little, anyway.

http://www.nyjetschat.com/forum/lofi...hp?t14252.html

Kiper's Combine Update (2/28)
Tuesday, February 28, 2006
Personnel Points on NFL combine

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Mel Kiper Jr.
Special to ESPN Insider

Quarterback
Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt (6-4, 230)
He is fast becoming one of the most overhyped players in this draft. Cutler was OK, but not great, at the Senior Bowl, but he's drawing all these rave reviews at the NFL scouting combine. He hasn't done anything at the combine that has wowed me to move him up in the draft.

Jay Cutler is going to be a top-15 pick, but does not rank as high QBs Matt Leinart or Vince Young.
Cutler hasn't improved his draft position by what he did at the Senior Bowl or combine. He had a good senior season and finished strong. If you like Cutler based on how he finished the season, that's fine, but don't think that he's moved up dramatically based on the Senior Bowl and combine.

He's going to go in the top 15 of the first round and might even go in the top five. But what he's done since the season ended doesn't put him up with Matt Leinart or Vince Young.

I still have him in the top 10 of the draft, but you shouldn't think he'll be a top-three pick.

I guess, but he thinks Young and Leinart are good in that story, and between them both they'll maybe start 2 games next year.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by vailpass

The Patsy system is no secret. Cutler mastered Shanny's offense which is leaps and bounds more complex than the NE "use the TE as a third WR and work for YAC instead of long downfield strikes" offense. Both QBs can master the system, why choose the one with inferior physical skills who has no rapport with the WRs?

Wow... so you're saying that you have no idea what you're talking about. This information will be of much use to me going forward, thanks.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by TonyR
Jay making the Pro Bowl last year was probably not a good thing. He now fashions himself a "Pro Bowl QB" even though this designation really doesn't mean anything coupled with the fact that he didn't belong in the game.

.

Exactly, Kordell Stewart was a probowl QB too.

Ouch!

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Wow... so you're saying that you have no idea what you're talking about. This information will be of much use to me going forward, thanks.

When you can state a lucid thought in a clear manner please feel free to post again. What you said here borders on skinbra.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by vailpass

When you can state a lucid thought in a clear manner please feel free to post again. What you said here borders on skinbra.

Given your post, what did you expect? You either don't know how the Patriots system works at all, or you were just blowing smoke out of your ass.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Given your post, what did you expect? You either don't know how the Patriots system works at all, or you were just blowing smoke out of your ass.

Feel free to correct me where you think I was in error and engage in a football conversation.

Or you can continue to blurt out ignorant snippets then dissapear forever like 99% of the n00bs I've seen come and go here.

[keg in kc]

Cutler's the equivalent of a butterface. Physically everything you want, but something's...missing above the shoulders.

And I ain't talkin' about about what he looks like.