Chiefs Why are so many Chiefs fans against drafting a 1st round QB? - Page 9

Deberg_1990 · 02-04-2009, 08:31 PM

What is it??

Did Steve Fuller and Todd Blackledge ruin your childhood??

Let it go people. Its time....

**The Franchise** · 02-05-2009, 11:27 AM

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OK......#3 pick in the draft to hold a clip board when we have EMPTY positions at LB???? I don't get why we would do that.....this team is going to pick high again next year when their is a better QB class with the bargin rate of the rookie cap in place. I just don't get why everyone wants a QB in a weak QB class like this one.....Pioli finds the diamonds in the ruff (Brady and Castle), so why put all our marbles in one bag?

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I see....so we take a second round projected player at the 3rd overall pick for an 80 million + dollar contract to....hold a clipboard for a year or two before we even find out if we made a HUGE mistake or not, while ignoring serious needs on a defense that came in next to dead last??? Ah yes...the reasons that we haven't seen a SuperBowl since SuperBowl 4 are becoming clearer and clearer now....

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Maybe he has the arm, and skills, but no where near the enough on the field experience. Not only that, who hasnt looked coming out of USC? He is too raw, and would be sitting for his first 2 seasons or so. Mark Sanchez is just a product of the best team in the coutry, and an overhyped one at that. I

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Sanchez will graduate before he could start his next college season anyway. He is not actually coming out early. USC red shirted him that's why he has a year left. In that clip he seems to have all the throws, and works well under blitz pressure. With a good pro QB coach this guy will be great. I just don't think the Chiefs are ready for a rookie starter QB this year. If they take him I will be excited, he has great potential. I just hope they give him a better shot than they did Brodie. Brodie could have been a great QB with the Patriots, just not here. He would have a better shot if he could get drafted further down, and not get rushed onto the field. He maybe pro ready, but the rest of our squad isn't ready for what it will take for him to be successful.

Now if we could trade into a top 10 pick with our #3, and maybe a second, then package that second with what ever we can get for all the guys we are getting rid of this year LJ included, and trade back in to the bottom of the first round, and if Sanchez is still there, then you grab him, and take a RT earlier. I doubt Sanchez falls below Detroit's pick in the second round. But I don't see an overwhelming need at QB that would cause him to get drafted earlier than say the Buc's.

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One of the reasons the Detroit Lions have been so bad is because they have failed to develop a good offensive line. Instead they tend to address the glamor positions like the wide out and qb position with their first round draft picks. Case in point, Joey Harrington. Although Joey Harrington was probably over hyped coming out of college, the lack of an offensive line definitely played a role in why he failed to develop like they had hoped.

A young qb tends to lose his confidence if he gets lit up over and over again. Another example would be David Carr who got the snot knocked out of him at a record breaking pace while he was with the Texans. Since his time with the Texans he's spent time with the Panthers and the Giants. Not quite a journey man quarterback but if he continues to bounce around the league then he'll be classified as one just like Joey Harrington.

This is precisely why investing a high round round draft pick in a qb is not only a bad investment but is downright lunacy if the offensive line hasn't been addressed. Then the young qb will have time to survey the field and not develop bad habits like happy feet and throwing nothing but dump off passes because they have zero confidence in their offensive line.

In summary, drafting potential studs at wide out and or qb makes absolutely no sense if you don't address the o line first. Championship teams are built in the trenches first. With Pioli in charge, I'm fairly confident that the Chiefs will not make the same kind of mistakes that the Detroit Lions made when Matt Milen was in charge.
Much as it pains me to say it the Chiefs don't have a great history as a winning franchise like the Steelers or the Cowboys. Sure, we played in Superbowl 1, but we did not win it. Also, we have not won a play off game since Joe Montana was our quarterback.

God.....****ing reeruned.

**The Franchise** · 02-05-2009, 11:31 AM

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A better QB class? Really? Yeah because all 3 of top QBs next year.....play in a spread offense. Great!!!!!! Sanchez and Stafford come from pro-style offenses.

This argument is getting quite annoying. TOM BRADY IS AN ANOMALY! They drafted Brady in the 6th round because they had Bledsoe. They drafted Cassell (not Castle) in the 7th because they had Brady. Pioli isn't the God that can pick a QB in the later rounds that everyone makes him out to be.

And you have no positive proof that a rookie QB will be in place next year so that argument is out the window as well.

Yeah let's grab Curry and pay him $50 million dollars. That's smart...especially when we can grab a LB in the 2nd and 3rd rounds....or pick one up off of FA.

Some of you people are amazing.

EDIT: Meant rookie cap not rookie QB.

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What are you saying?? You would rather pay Sanchez 80million?? A kid that has less college experience than any other QB coming out in the draft. The fact that people like you, think this highly of Sanchez make me sick. While I agree we could use the competition at QB, Sanchez is an absolute waste of a pick at #3. We would have to SIT behind Thigpen for a year or so he is so raw. There are better options for us at QB that dont require us spending our first draft pick. Thats just stupid. Sanchez just wants $$$. Thats the only reason he even came out this year, and because he knows we would not be rated this high coming out next year with Bradford and McCoy. Next year there will be Bradford, McCoy, Case Keenum, Zac Robinson, Jevan Sneed. ALLL of those guys look better than Sanchez. We have more building this year before we think about dropping big bucks on an unproven QB.

The dipshit is strong with this one.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-05-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

God.....****ing reeruned.

Yep, the Corky Contingent just keeps plugging away!

Crush · 02-05-2009, 11:32 AM

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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f...to=MS_48731868

Look at this conversation. It amazes me that people are that stupid.

Some of those guys should get into comedy.

rad · 02-05-2009, 11:33 AM

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God.....****ing reeruned.

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**DeezNutz** · 02-05-2009, 11:34 AM

He lists all Big 12 QB's and one former Big 12 QB. lol.

Case Keenum111

rad · 02-05-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

The dipshit is strong with this one.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but........I kinda wish I could post there , just to have fun with them, you know?

**The Franchise** · 02-05-2009, 11:46 AM

Dude...this guy is ****ing reeruned. He's beyond fixing.

To him....Thigpen is God!

kcbubb · 02-05-2009, 11:51 AM

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what if we simply like the defensive players more than Sanchez? I like Rey Maualuga and I like Everette Brown. I also like Michael Johnson. I guess my ideal scenario would be to trade down in the first and take Rey and then trade up from the pick in the 2nd to late first round and take Michael Johnson. I know. I'm one of those crazy people that thinks it is possible to trade down. What am I thinking? Don't I know that it has never been done before...... oh... that's right.... it has been done before. would it be difficult??? probably. but it is possible. would our the players get less money? yes. would they have a better chance of getting to camp on time? definitely.

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Chiefs history of trading down involves us getting Siavii and LJ (missing out on polamolululu)

Pioli's history is a little better. He traded down last year from pick 7 to 10. (I know that trading down from #3 is harder.) They traded with the Saints who took Sedrick Ellis and picked the defensive rookie of the year MLB Jerrod Mayo.

Pioli has a good history of trading down with the Pats. I just hope he can pull it off. I think trading down to pick Rey Maualuga could be great. I think he could play in either the 4-3 or 3-4. I also think Michael Johnson could play in either the 3-4 or 4-3. I'm afraid Michael Johnson will blow up the combine and move up the board too high where we could not get him by trading up into the late first with 2nd round pick.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-05-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Dude...this guy is ****ing reeruned. He's beyond fixing.

To him....Thigpen is God!

ALL HAIL SPIT BUBBLE,
SUPERHERO OF THE TRUE FAN!

rad · 02-05-2009, 11:57 AM

What's with the KISS avy?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-05-2009, 12:01 PM

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What's with the KISS avy?

Haley/Frehley/Stram etc.

**The Franchise** · 02-05-2009, 12:05 PM

Wow....it's impossible to talk with those people. I'm done arguing. They would all just rather grab Curry with the #3 spot because he'll instantly make us competitive next year.

Playing for 8-8 is the way to go!

rad · 02-05-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Haley/Frehley/Stram etc.

Oh, OK. Because I was jump in and get a Peter Criss avy to see if a trend could get started. I need a new one anyway, I'm sick of looking at Herm.

**The Franchise** · 02-05-2009, 12:07 PM

I'd love to see Dane, OTW58 and Mecca head over there. I think it'd be pretty funny.

02-04-2009, 08:31 PM
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02-05-2009, 11:46 AM	#128
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02-05-2009, 12:05 PM	#133
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2095047	Wow....it's impossible to talk with those people. I'm done arguing. They would all just rather grab Curry with the #3 spot because he'll instantly make us competitive next year. Playing for 8-8 is the way to go!
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02-05-2009, 12:07 PM	#135
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