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Old 02-04-2009, 08:31 PM  
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Why are so many Chiefs fans against drafting a 1st round QB?

What is it??

Did Steve Fuller and Todd Blackledge ruin your childhood??

Let it go people. Its time....
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:59 PM   #76
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Without reading all the posts, and in no particular order:

1) disbelief that this organisation can actually draft the right one
2) we have many holes to fill
3) we have an impatient fan-base that is at its wit's end, and most QBs take a year (or two or three) to develop. Many couldn't handle that.
4) Matt Ryan was in last year's draft
5) Todd Blackledge
6) We had THE WORST PASS RUSH IN NFL HISTORY in 2008. Don't we need a DE?
7) Is any of the QBs in this year's draft actually worthy of the 3rd overall pick?
8) Many early 1st round QBs are colossal busts (Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Alex Smith, David Klingler, Andre Ware, our very own Todd Blackledge etc.). Are we not safer picking a DE or other position of need?
9) Picking the wrong QB can really set the franchise back, more than a bad pick at other positions
10) Todd Blackledge
11) See #1

Personally I'm just looking forward to seeing who we pick, and what position. We have a new GM with a track record of success. I'm not going to second guess him until he proves he deserves it. Be it Sanchez, Stafford, Orakpo, whoever, let's hope we're beginning to return to being competitive.

Holy Jesus.

That reads like a True Fan Manifesto.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:00 PM   #77
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What I got from his post was that Sanchez and Stafford weren't potential franchise QB material.
But then you read this, right?

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Why do I believe Stafford and Sanchez are franchise guys. I will tell you why. I was not on the Stafford bandwagon at all to start the year. His sophomore year did not impress me at all. I wanted Bradford instead. It was after the 3rd game of the season against South Carolina, I made a vow to watch him and see if my opinion would change. It did. I watched every single stinking Georgia Bulldog game from then on out. He was impressive. He has the arm, the size, the leadership skills. Georgia was also very young up front and at receiver. Stafford led that team. It was his team. Yes Florida and Alabama beat them bad, but it was that Bama game where I really liked him. They were done and out and led a respectful comeback against the Tide. Stafford just reminds me of how Elway used to play.

Now to Sanchez, most of us thought he wouldnt come out but he was the one everybody had pegged for the top guy in 2010. I watched a ton of USC games mainly to look at their defense guys which is where that team was stacked not offense. I saw a guy who was the leader of that team. USC's line wasnt very good. He got nailed in the grill alot, but his biggest plays were when he was flushed from the pocket and made a strike. He has the arm, the swagger, the smarts you want from a franchise QB. Troy Aikman is who he reminds me of.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:01 PM   #78
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Holy Jesus.

That reads like a True Fan Manifesto.
Is that a picture of Nick Athan in your avy?

I've never had the pleasure of his visage.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:02 PM   #79
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Is that a picture of Nick "Assclown" Athan in your avy?

I've never had the pleasure of his visage.
Why yes.

Yes it is.

Here's a better picture:

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Old 02-04-2009, 11:02 PM   #80
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They're called "No QB in round 1 unless he's a 'lock'" folks. But they're all for a QB in rounds 4-7.

Good luck finding that "lock."
That's a mis-statement.

Most people claim that they would have no problem taking Sanchez or Stafford if they are there at #3 and they are given a top 5 grade.

If Pioli gives him only a barely top 10 grade, then taking him at #3 is an enormous reach.

Few have said that a player must be a lock at QB to be a top 3 pick.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:03 PM   #81
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Without reading all the posts, and in no particular order:

1) disbelief that this organisation can actually draft the right one
2) we have many holes to fill
3) we have an impatient fan-base that is at its wit's end, and most QBs take a year (or two or three) to develop. Many couldn't handle that.
4) Matt Ryan was in last year's draft
5) Todd Blackledge
6) We had THE WORST PASS RUSH IN NFL HISTORY in 2008. Don't we need a DE?
7) Is any of the QBs in this year's draft actually worthy of the 3rd overall pick?
8) Many early 1st round QBs are colossal busts (Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Alex Smith, David Klingler, Andre Ware, our very own Todd Blackledge etc.). Are we not safer picking a DE or other position of need?
9) Picking the wrong QB can really set the franchise back, more than a bad pick at other positions
10) Todd Blackledge
11) See #1

Personally I'm just looking forward to seeing who we pick, and what position. We have a new GM with a track record of success. I'm not going to second guess him until he proves he deserves it. Be it Sanchez, Stafford, Orakpo, whoever, let's hope we're beginning to return to being competitive.
1. Then we should give up now. Move the team.
2. True. So let's fill the most important one.
3. **** them. I don't care.
4. And few wanted Ryan. This point defies logic.
5. 1983. Get over it. We can't take Peyton Manning111 We drafted J. George111
6. Let's magically create one worthy of the #3 pick.
7. Yes. Two, even.
8. There are busts at all positions. Get over it. Fixate on women's busts.
9. Huge money with all top-3 picks. Moot.
10. See 5.
11. See 1.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:04 PM   #82
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1. Then we should give up now. Move the team.
2. True. So let's fill the most important one.
3. **** them. I don't care.
4. And few wanted Ryan. This point is defies logic.
5. 1983. Get over it. We can't take Peyton Manning111 We drafted J. George111
6. Let's magically create one worthy of the #3 pick.
7. Yes. Two, even.
8. There are busts at all positions. Get over it. Fixate on women's busts.
9. Huge money with all top-3 picks. Moot.
10. See 5.
11. See 1.
This.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:04 PM   #83
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That's a mis-statement.

Most people claim that they would have no problem taking Sanchez or Stafford if they are there at #3 and they are given a top 5 grade.

If Pioli gives him only a barely top 10 grade, then taking him at #3 is an enormous reach.

Few have said that a player must be a lock at QB to be a top 3 pick.
You stand by your statement. I'll stand by mine.

This conversation is rehashed daily, so we'll wait for the next, "Unless he's a sure thing" moment. It's coming. Don't worry. And it's not few.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:05 PM   #84
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Holy Jesus.

That reads like a True Fan Manifesto.
Let's just chip in and buy them their own franchise, so they'll stay the **** away from the Chiefs.

The "Ottowa Window Lickers"; has a nice ring, yes?
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:05 PM   #85
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But then you read this, right?
Did not read that
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:06 PM   #86
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Let's just chip in and buy them their own franchise, so they'll stay the **** away from the Chiefs.

The "Ottowa Window Lickers"; has a nice ring, yes?
How about the Calgary Chickenshits?

Maybe they can get Casey Printers and Tyler Thigpen to battle it out for the starting job.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:07 PM   #87
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Never did I say the Chiefs are going to be a 2 win team next season, but we should be drafting in the top 10-15 next season. And how the hell can't you be impressed with some one like McCoy? The guy only completed 77% of his passes. Plus he could end of being the 3rd rated QB next season, with Bradford and Teabow more then likely coming out next season. Plus McCoy isn't throwing to 4 and 5 star recruits like Sanchez does at USC.
How can I not be impressed?

1. How many "spread QB's" make it in the NFL?

2. I'm not a Big 12 homer.
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How about the Calgary Chickenshits?

Maybe they can get Casey Printers and Tyler Thigpen to battle it out for the starting job.


I was going for Ottowa Kansas, but that'll work too!
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Why yes.

Yes it is.

Here's a better picture:
Yikes.

Thanks for sharing.

I think.
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You stand by your statement. I'll stand by mine.

This conversation is rehashed daily, so we'll wait for the next, "Unless he's a sure thing" moment. It's coming. Don't worry. And it's not few.
The only "Sure Thing" I've ever known was 16.

And they was right!
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