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Old 01-16-2009, 03:20 PM  
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Glad we didn't go after Schwartz
The leading candidate for Schwartz's defensive coordinator post is the Chiefs' Gunther Cunningham.

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Old 01-16-2009, 03:53 PM   #61
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:54 PM   #62
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Funny.....but answer me this.

How can he be in the running unless he's already been fired? I thought coaches weren't allowed to take the same job with another team.
Obviously, Shefter was correct when he said all the assistants were free to search elsewhere.

One of two possiblities for Herm:

He's already been fired like the rest of them, and this is all a face-saving charade. (likely)

Herm is being considered for next year, but Pioli will be picking his staff. (unlikely)
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:54 PM   #63
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Imagine a team coached by Brian Shottenheimer and Gunther.

Oh, wait.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:55 PM   #64
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Funny how the team as a whole can affect the play of a unit. When that "circus offense" scored a shit ton of points, it had a way of making opposing teams one dimensional.

Of course, it was Gun's brilliance (and vocal cords111) that made the difference. What happened in the following three seasons when more draft picks and FA dollars were used on the D? Herm? Carl? The chefs at Arrowhead?
The very same offense didn't have that effect on the defense the year prior.
And for most of Vermeil's administration.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:56 PM   #65
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The very same offense didn't have that effect on the defense the year prior.
And for most of Vermeil's administration.
> GRob does not equal good.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:57 PM   #66
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The one name I see in that report that I'd like to have in KC is Jeremy Bates as OC.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:57 PM   #67
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> GRob does not equal good.
Guess it's good that I never compared the two then, huh?

I said he could be a much better Defensive Coordinator if allowed to coach a philosophy he believes in.
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The one name I see in that report that I'd like to have in KC is Jeremy Bates as OC.
Agreed.
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Old 01-16-2009, 04:00 PM   #70
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Guess it's good that I never compared the two then, huh?

I said he could be a much better Defensive Coordinator if allowed to coach a philosophy he believes in.
Of course you did. The comparison was implicit by saying that the offense didn't have the same effect before Gun's arrival.

I know. That's why I spouted off about Teflon. Sorry, IMO, anyone who is remotely tied to this historically bad defense has to go down with the ship. Gun. Our "defensive minded" head coach. No one gets a pass.

They were all pivotal in perfecting the shit sandwich that was the '08 KC Chiefs defense.
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How much of a meltdown would the Planet have had?

"We'd like to announce that Herman Edwards has been released from his position of Head Coach and we've hired Jim Schwartz."



"Jim Schwartz will be retaining Gunther Cunningham as his Defensive Coordinator"
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Of course you did. The comparison was implicit by saying that the offense didn't have the same effect before Gun's arrival.

I know. That's why I spouted off about Teflon. Sorry, IMO, anyone who is remotely tied to this historically bad defense has to go down with the ship. Gun. Our "defensive minded" head coach. No one gets a pass.

They were all pivotal in perfecting the shit sandwich that was the '08 KC Chiefs defense.
I am not at all in favor of him staying on with this organization.
Please don't get that confused.

He should've been gone 2 weeks ago.
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Not surprised at all. I think he can be a much better Defensive Coordinator if allowed to install his own personal defensive philosophy.
He rode the coattails of Derrick Thomas. There is no excuse for his defenses having the same deficiencies year in and year out.

I want Gunther gone more than I want Herm gone. I'm glad as hell we didn't hire Schwartz.
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I am not at all in favor of him staying on with this organization.
Please don't get that confused.

He should've been gone 2 weeks ago.
We're on the same page, then.

I wish him well at his next stop. He was a bigger man than me to be able to swallow his pride and return to KC in the first place.
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