Football The Pioli Watch Thread - Page 225

cardken · 02:26 PM

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-13-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

Don Banks in SI.com:

"Just trying to put two and two together, but it would seem to me that McDaniels getting hired in Denver somehow helps his AFC West rival Herm Edwards' chances of surviving another year as Kansas City's coach.

With McDaniels, the former Patriots offensive coordinator, off the job market, maybe potential Chiefs general manager hire Scott Pioli wouldn't be as inclined to make an immediate coaching change. Then again, maybe Edwards remains because Pioli wouldn't be as inclined to take the Chiefs GM job if he can't bring in McDaniels as his head coach.

• If Pioli and the Chiefs don't wind up striking a deal, here's a name to keep track of in Kansas City's quest to replace general manager Carl Peterson: Mark Dominik. He's Tampa Bay's 37-year-old director of pro personnel, and he not only grew up in Kansas and attended the University of Kansas, but also he began his NFL career as a Chiefs scouting intern in 1994.

Dominik and Chiefs interim president Denny Thum, who is heading K.C.'s search for a general manager, have known each other for years, and Dominik is well respected throughout the league for his personnel judgment. He is largely credited with the Bucs' signing last year of receiver Antonio Bryant, who went on to a breakout season as Tampa Bay's No. 1 pass-catcher in 2008."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...coaches/1.html

Dear God, Don.

You just put 2 and 2 together and came up with 9.

If Pioli had any interest in bringing McDaniels with him, JM wouldn't have accepted a job a full week or two before most jobs are filled.

**Gonzo** · 01-13-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

Don Banks in SI.com:

"Just trying to put two and two together, but it would seem to me that McDaniels getting hired in Denver somehow helps his AFC West rival Herm Edwards' chances of surviving another year as Kansas City's coach.

With McDaniels, the former Patriots offensive coordinator, off the job market, maybe potential Chiefs general manager hire Scott Pioli wouldn't be as inclined to make an immediate coaching change. Then again, maybe Edwards remains because Pioli wouldn't be as inclined to take the Chiefs GM job if he can't bring in McDaniels as his head coach.

• If Pioli and the Chiefs don't wind up striking a deal, here's a name to keep track of in Kansas City's quest to replace general manager Carl Peterson: Mark Dominik. He's Tampa Bay's 37-year-old director of pro personnel, and he not only grew up in Kansas and attended the University of Kansas, but also he began his NFL career as a Chiefs scouting intern in 1994.

Dominik and Chiefs interim president Denny Thum, who is heading K.C.'s search for a general manager, have known each other for years, and Dominik is well respected throughout the league for his personnel judgment. He is largely credited with the Bucs' signing last year of receiver Antonio Bryant, who went on to a breakout season as Tampa Bay's No. 1 pass-catcher in 2008."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...coaches/1.html

Oooooo, he signed a WR....

Getting this guy would be like drinking toilet wine, yeah you're drunk but you know how it was made.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-13-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Has Reiss been on Petro's show yet?

Can't listen here.

Didn't know he was supposed to be on.

I've been listening and it hasn't been mentioned.

Ebolapox · 01-13-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Not everyone around here sounds that way. Not even close. Only folks from certain neighborhoods.

Second, you have no idea how sllllllloooooooooooowwwwwwww redneck southern accent sounds up here. It's brutal to listen to for those of us who move a little faster.

yeah, the southie projects.

I watched 'the departed'

EyePod · 01-13-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Craqhead

I fall 5-6 pages back on this thread. Start reading from where I was last, and everytime I click a new page there's a page added.

Good Gawd Pioli pls hurry up and sign the dotted line... Then I wont have too keep up w/ this. I can get some sleep, pay some attention too my girlfriend... actually do my job at work.

You can show a lot more posts on one page in your User CP. I only have a total of 42 pages on this thread right now and it doesn't change that often.

RedThat · 01-13-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

Yes, but you can't realistically expect that type of play (making players around you much better than they really are) from a rookie DT.

Why not?

He was drafted for those reasons. Thats what great players do make the players around them better.

I know he's a rookie, and for a rookie Im fine if he starts off bad. At the very least, I expect significant progress as the season goes on. He didn't show that.

this is a guy whom many were drawing comparisons to Warren Sapp, and that was said to be the most polished and NFL ready DT. As of now, they are wrong. im sad to say but Im disappointed because I believed many of the critics.

I think Dorseys a good guy, and I hope he succeeds. Maybe he needs a change from the coaching staff? Or maybe he does need better talent around him?

But regardless, my point is, he is the key. The building block to this defense. At least thats what were led to believe.

FringeNC · 01-13-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Dear God, Don.

You just put 2 and 2 together and came up with 9.

If Pioli had any interest in bringing McDaniels with him, JM wouldn't have accepted a job a full week or two before most jobs are filled.

That's my thought as well. I think it's looking like Pioli/Ferentz despite all the cries from the natives that Ferentz would never leave Iowa.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-13-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Gonzo

Oooooo, he signed a WR....

Getting this guy would be like drinking toilet wine, yeah you're drunk but you know how it was made.

We've been drinking at the Toilet Wine, all you can-drink "buffet" for 10 years now; can we at least have a box of Franzia for God's sake?!

Craqhead · 01-13-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

You can show a lot more posts on one page in your User CP. I only have a total of 42 pages on this thread right now and it doesn't change that often.

I have 225 pages.

EyePod · 01-13-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

this is a guy whom many were drawing comparisons to Warren Sapp, and that was said to be the most polished and NFL ready DT. As of now, they are wrong.

How many times do we have to break up this point?

Sapp

Defense Stats
YEAR	TEAM	G	TOT	SOLO	AST	PD	SACK	FF	REC	INT	YDS	TD
1995	TAM	16	26	16	10	5	3.0	1	0	1	5	1

Dorsey

Defense Stats
YEAR	TEAM	G	TOT	SOLO	AST	PD	SACK	FF	REC	INT	YDS	TD
2008	KAN	16	46	32	14	1	1.0	1	0	0	0	0

Tell me again that those years aren't similar. If Sapp didn't bust, then Dorsey didn't bust.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-13-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

That's my thought as well. I think it's looking like Pioli/Ferentz despite all the cries from the natives that Ferentz would never leave Iowa.

Or, it could be Schwartz, or someone we're not even expecting.

Or, it could not be Pioli at all, and this whole thread has just been a giant goat****.

RedThat · 01-13-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Craqhead

If I had too choose just one of our D-Line... it would be Dorsey.

Again like others say cant blame all this on him. I personally blame CP, Herm, Gun and Dick.

Reguardless of if we get Piolo, and somehow Herm's allowed too stay. GUN and that entire Defensive staff better be GONE.

Well Im with ya. He is the guy I would choose as well from any of our DLineman. Quite frankly, I don't think we'd be left with a choice? Hes a top 5 pick and there is a lot invested in him. No use giving up on him?

It's not all him. I can agree with that. This is a team game and Im glad alot of us don't forget that. This coaching staff is atrocious. Maybe hed be better with excellent coaching around him? And I really hope he can work with a smart coach that knows how to utilize his talents not only to his advantage but also for the benefits of bettering our football team.

Brock · 01-13-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

How many times do we have to break up this point?

Sapp

Defense Stats
YEAR	TEAM	G	TOT	SOLO	AST	PD	SACK	FF	REC	INT	YDS	TD
1995	TAM	16	26	16	10	5	3.0	1	0	1	5	1

Dorsey

Defense Stats
YEAR	TEAM	G	TOT	SOLO	AST	PD	SACK	FF	REC	INT	YDS	TD
2008	KAN	16	46	32	14	1	1.0	1	0	0	0	0

Tell me again that those years aren't similar. If Sapp didn't bust, then Dorsey didn't bust.

You'll have to bring it up many, many times to penetrate the skull of the average message board tard.

Rooster · 01-13-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

How many times do we have to break up this point?

Until Dorsey makes a ProBowl I'm sure.

RedThat · 01-13-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

Oh, and if the coaches/GM were really counting on a ****ing rookie DT to be the centerpiece of the DL right away then they are stupid and should be shot. We just said that Okoye had an impact year as a rookie DT. Okay, yeah, but he wasn't the centerpiece! He had 5.5 sacks! And he's considered to have an amazing rookie year!

Can't really say that. You have a top prospect coming out of the draft. Any team that finishes with a poor record and has a high draft slot knowing that they have a chance to draft one of the better players out of the country is sure as darn hell gonna depend on that player to be one of the building blocks on their team.