The Pioli Watch Thread

[cardken]

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

[Jerm]

The fact that Mike Reiss keeps saying he thinks Pioli comes here makes me think it's really going to happen and happen soon.

That dude is in deep with the Pats, he doesn't post stuff just to post it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

There will always be some mitigating circumstances to use as an excuse for some.

With Brodie, it was obvious (and legit). Dude was always broken. With another young QB, it will be something else. His mechanics are all ****ed up, for example.

Some would say that others are already doing this with Thigpen, myself included. He's back-up material only in my book, but I could be calling this WAY too soon.

It's not just the QB position.

This fanbase has already declared Glenn Dorsey a bust.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It's not just the QB position.

This fanbase has already declared Glenn Dorsey a bust.

I wonder if this type of premature reaction will change since Carl is gone?

There was such a negative stigma around him, that any decision that he was remotely involved in was deemed a failure immediately--I'm talking anything business to football related. Same with Herm, to a lesser extent.

The same people will now be posting with positive expectations, "Well, if Pioli wanted him..."

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It's not just the QB position.

This fanbase has already declared Glenn Dorsey a bust.

That's not true.

[bowener]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It's not just the QB position.

This fanbase has already declared Glenn Dorsey a bust.

I dont think Glenn is a bust, so I must not be a fan.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It's not just the QB position.

This fanbase has already declared Glenn Dorsey a bust.

You should have said "morons in the fanbase have already declared Glenn Dorsey a bust." I'm not saying he's perfect or that he looks like a stud yet or that he won't be a bust, but right now, he had an above average rookie year for a DT and will hopefully get better with better coaching next year!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

That's not true.

The fan base has declared Gun and Krummy a bust, and rightly so.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It's not just the QB position.

This fanbase has already declared Glenn Dorsey a bust.

that's news to me...

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by bowener

I dont think Glenn is a bust, so I must not be a fan.

No, you can still be a fan. You're just a good fan. He's not a bust yet. (He may be in the future even though I don't want it)

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

That's not true.

Yes, it is.

The majority of this fanbase has proclaimed Glenn Dorsey a bust.

I'm not saying everyone, but the patient folks are part of the minority, around here, other forums, the call-in shows and Arrowhead itself.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by EyePod

You should have said "morons in the fanbase have already declared Glenn Dorsey a bust." I'm not saying he's perfect or that he looks like a stud yet or that he won't be a bust, but right now, he had an above average rookie year for a DT and will hopefully get better with better coaching next year!

Fair enough.

This fanbase is littered with morons, so my point stands.

[Warrior5]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yes, it is.

The majority of this fanbase has proclaimed Glenn Dorsey a bust.

I'm not saying everyone, but the patient folks are part of the minority, around here, other forums, the call-in shows and Arrowhead itself.

Do a poll and find out what the Planet thinks.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It's not just the QB position.

This fanbase has already declared Glenn Dorsey a bust.

I think it's the Dorsey apologists that are trying to make this into a binary choice -- either Dorsey is a bust or not. The reality of the situation is that it's much too early to call Dorsey a bust, but it's not too early to say he's been a disappointment. Our front four sucked. Now most of us put a lot of the blame on Gun and Krumrie, but let's face it, if there was a re-draft, Dorsey wouldn't go nearly as high.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I wonder if this type of premature reaction will change since Carl is gone?

There was such a negative stigma around him, that any decision that he was remotely involved in was deemed a failure immediately--I'm talking anything business to football related. Same with Herm, to a lesser extent.

The same people will now be posting with positive expectations, "Well, if Pioli wanted him..."

I hope so.

The negativity and impatience is overwhelming.

You can't change the past, you can only hope for the best for the future.

If it wasn't for bitching about the past, some of these folks wouldn't have a reason to breathe.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yes, it is.

The majority of this fanbase has proclaimed Glenn Dorsey a bust.

I'm not saying everyone, but the patient folks are part of the minority, around here, other forums, the call-in shows and Arrowhead itself.

I'm patient with player development. I'm not patient with us not signing someone yet!