Football The Pioli Watch Thread - Page 193

cardken · 02:26 PM

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-12-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by unothadeal

This thread needs some Boy George

I think I just pissed my pants!

DaWolf · 01-12-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

ESPN basically says that Pioli was interviewed last Monday but negotiations haven't even started. You really wonder who is wrong 610 and 810 for saying that a contract has already been offered or ESPN coming from Boston Globe type peeps.

Obviously no one outside of Hunt, Thum, and Pioli know what the heck is going on. Everyone else is just blowing smoke right now. Now all the speculation is hinging around Herm Edwards being the holdup. Who knows.

What I do know is that it makes no sense for Hunt to keep Edwards around now, because no valid GM candidate is going to want to keep someone else's coach, and you'd have to give Herm an extension, because it makes no sense to have a coach go into a lame duck year...

blueballs · 01-12-2009, 01:11 AM

How often do the cut loose the GM and HC
unless they're the same person

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-12-2009, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

I think I just pissed my pants!

Ian was Pirate, when Pirate wasn't cool...

booger · 01-12-2009, 01:22 AM

Looks like an updated version of the Globe's story yesterday with a few more notes here and there.

Chiefs' main man?
Pioli to KC looks more like a realistic possibility

By Mike Reiss
Globe Staff / January 12, 2009
In the final home game of the Kansas City Chiefs' 2008 season, an announced crowd of 73,689 showed up at frigid Arrowhead Stadium despite the team's 2-12 record at the time. Some came with hand-written signs with a message for owner Clark Hunt: "We want Pioli."

What might have seemed like a long shot at the time - Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli running the Chiefs' football operation - is now looking more like a realistic possibility.

Once thought to be the Chiefs' leading candidate, now there is no doubt: Pioli is their man, according to an NFL source.

Perhaps more important, Pioli's interest in the Chiefs and a potential new career challenge has grown.

All that stands in the way is hashing out a contract agreement, or perhaps a late pitch from the Patriots (who lost offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels to the Broncos yesterday as head coach), or a last-minute change of heart from Pioli.

All scenarios remained in play as of early last night, but as reported in yesterday's Globe, the intensity of talks between Pioli and the Chiefs has increased within the last 24-48 hours. Word out of Kansas City continues to be that the possibility of the sides coming together is picking up momentum.

The key has been the comfort level between Pioli, Hunt, and team president Denny Thum.

Because Hunt already has determined that his new hire will work closely with Thum, a longtime Chiefs employee who will handle mostly business matters, it is imperative that there be good chemistry between the two.

So as the 43-year-old Hunt prepares to make his first major hire since taking over the club from his late father, the venerable Lamar Hunt, he is in many ways a matchmaker. He must determine if the person he hires to run the Chiefs' football operation is a good fit with Thum.

Albeit in a short timeframe, Pioli and Thum have hit it off, according to the NFL source.

This might come as a surprise to some who have painted the 43-year-old Pioli as a candidate who would be seeking total control of all decisions, or someone who was interviewing for jobs in Cleveland and Kansas City but had little intention of leaving New England because he apparently was making such hefty demands.

Although Pioli can drive a hard bargain, and that setting of high expectations is part of what has earned him two Sporting News Executive of the Year awards, those suggestions seem to be well off the mark.

Browns owner Randy Lerner also cleared up one other misconception regarding Pioli - that he wasn't hired for the Cleveland job because he was looking for a mega financial offer.

"We talked for hours about football organizations," Lerner told the Akron Beacon-Journal. "Money never came into the conversation with Scott."

Asked if Pioli made exorbitant demands, Lerner told the newspaper "that's completely and utterly untrue."

With all this in mind, Pioli and the Chiefs look like a near-perfect pair.

Part of what makes the Chiefs job appealing is strong ownership. The Hunt family long has been loyal to its front-office employees, which is reflected in that former general manager and president Carl Peterson held that position for 20 years. Another aspect is that the new hire has a chance to grow alongside Hunt, who himself is learning about running the franchise.

From a personnel perspective, the Chiefs are expected to be approximately $30 million under the salary cap, a great spot to be in. They are in the midst of a significant rebuilding process and coming off a 2-14 season, so expectations are low, yet they still have some promising young players and own the No. 3 overall selection in the draft.

While questions remain at the most important position on the field - is quarterback Tyler Thigpen accurate enough to be the long-term answer? - the Chiefs are in position for a quick turnaround simply because they play in one of the NFL's worst divisions, the AFC West. So if Pioli is interested in finally stepping out on his own, it doesn't figure to get much better than this.

Time is now of the essence.

While Hunt has conducted a thorough, under-the-radar search, he now should be feeling some urgency to finalize plans because the new hire ultimately will determine the fate of coach Herm Edwards and his staff, many of whom were still in their offices this past Friday for year-end personnel evaluation meetings.

It's a tough spot for a lot of good football men, and Hunt would be doing the Hunt-like, classy thing by finalizing their status before the majority of jobs around the league are filled.

In turn, if Edwards and his assistants are fired by the new general manager, the Chiefs could move quickly to interview some of the top head coaching candidates who have yet to be plucked by other clubs.

Mike Reiss can be reached at mreiss@globe.com.

© Copyright 2009 Globe Newspaper Company.
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unothadeal · 01-12-2009, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Ian was Pirate, when Pirate wasn't cool...

You did not just "go-go" there.

kcchiefsus · 01-12-2009, 01:31 AM

I hate to be a Debbie Downer but if this is the best guy for the job and the guy we all want isn't it just our luck that something will happen to screw this up? I hope i'm wrong.

booger · 01-12-2009, 01:31 AM

Looks like at this stage in the descision, Mike Reiss of the Globe has the best info out there and when the news breaks if he stays or comes to KC, Reiss will probably break the story if it comes from the NE/Pioli side.

**RealSNR** · 01-12-2009, 01:33 AM

Anyone else think that Scott Pioli is actually the guy who gets his face melted off in Raiders of the Lost Ark?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-12-2009, 01:34 AM

[quote=booger;5382188]Looks like an updated version of the Globe's story yesterday with a few more notes here and there.

Quote:

Chiefs' main man?
Pioli to KC looks more like a realistic possibility

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Albeit in a short timeframe, Pioli and Thum have hit it off, according to the NFL source.

Though I never brought it up, I always found this part of the equation the LEAST troubling of all. Thum has a GREAT reputation in this league, and I found the idea of Pioli and Thum working side by side to be about as picture-perfect as a situation could get.

I do believe we are almost there.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-12-2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by booger

Looks like at this stage in the descision, Mike Reiss of the Globe has the best info out there and when the news breaks if he stays or comes to KC, Reiss will probably break the story if it comes from the NE/Pioli side.

Rep most definately ADDED!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-12-2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by unothadeal

You did not just "go-go" there.

Sir, for you to put Ian Atsbury in the same digital space as George Micheal insists that I must bitch slap you with something truly horrid.

And here it is:

kobebehar · 01-12-2009, 01:45 AM

Something funnier here instead lol.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-12-2009, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kobebehar

Okay gang,

I have it on good authority that Joy Behar will be the next GM of the Chiefs and the new Head Coach will be Elvis Grbac.

Well, he's trying.

**Bugeater** · 01-12-2009, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kobebehar

Okay gang,

I have it on good authority that Joy Behar will be the next GM of the Chiefs and the new Head Coach will be Elvis Grbac.

01-12-2009, 01:11 AM	#2883
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01-12-2009, 01:22 AM	#2885
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $-2161450	Looks like an updated version of the Globe's story yesterday with a few more notes here and there. Chiefs' main man? Pioli to KC looks more like a realistic possibility By Mike Reiss Globe Staff / January 12, 2009 In the final home game of the Kansas City Chiefs' 2008 season, an announced crowd of 73,689 showed up at frigid Arrowhead Stadium despite the team's 2-12 record at the time. Some came with hand-written signs with a message for owner Clark Hunt: "We want Pioli." What might have seemed like a long shot at the time - Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli running the Chiefs' football operation - is now looking more like a realistic possibility. Once thought to be the Chiefs' leading candidate, now there is no doubt: Pioli is their man, according to an NFL source. Perhaps more important, Pioli's interest in the Chiefs and a potential new career challenge has grown. All that stands in the way is hashing out a contract agreement, or perhaps a late pitch from the Patriots (who lost offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels to the Broncos yesterday as head coach), or a last-minute change of heart from Pioli. All scenarios remained in play as of early last night, but as reported in yesterday's Globe, the intensity of talks between Pioli and the Chiefs has increased within the last 24-48 hours. Word out of Kansas City continues to be that the possibility of the sides coming together is picking up momentum. The key has been the comfort level between Pioli, Hunt, and team president Denny Thum. Because Hunt already has determined that his new hire will work closely with Thum, a longtime Chiefs employee who will handle mostly business matters, it is imperative that there be good chemistry between the two. So as the 43-year-old Hunt prepares to make his first major hire since taking over the club from his late father, the venerable Lamar Hunt, he is in many ways a matchmaker. He must determine if the person he hires to run the Chiefs' football operation is a good fit with Thum. Albeit in a short timeframe, Pioli and Thum have hit it off, according to the NFL source. This might come as a surprise to some who have painted the 43-year-old Pioli as a candidate who would be seeking total control of all decisions, or someone who was interviewing for jobs in Cleveland and Kansas City but had little intention of leaving New England because he apparently was making such hefty demands. Although Pioli can drive a hard bargain, and that setting of high expectations is part of what has earned him two Sporting News Executive of the Year awards, those suggestions seem to be well off the mark. Browns owner Randy Lerner also cleared up one other misconception regarding Pioli - that he wasn't hired for the Cleveland job because he was looking for a mega financial offer. "We talked for hours about football organizations," Lerner told the Akron Beacon-Journal. "Money never came into the conversation with Scott." Asked if Pioli made exorbitant demands, Lerner told the newspaper "that's completely and utterly untrue." With all this in mind, Pioli and the Chiefs look like a near-perfect pair. Part of what makes the Chiefs job appealing is strong ownership. The Hunt family long has been loyal to its front-office employees, which is reflected in that former general manager and president Carl Peterson held that position for 20 years. Another aspect is that the new hire has a chance to grow alongside Hunt, who himself is learning about running the franchise. From a personnel perspective, the Chiefs are expected to be approximately $30 million under the salary cap, a great spot to be in. They are in the midst of a significant rebuilding process and coming off a 2-14 season, so expectations are low, yet they still have some promising young players and own the No. 3 overall selection in the draft. While questions remain at the most important position on the field - is quarterback Tyler Thigpen accurate enough to be the long-term answer? - the Chiefs are in position for a quick turnaround simply because they play in one of the NFL's worst divisions, the AFC West. So if Pioli is interested in finally stepping out on his own, it doesn't figure to get much better than this. Time is now of the essence. While Hunt has conducted a thorough, under-the-radar search, he now should be feeling some urgency to finalize plans because the new hire ultimately will determine the fate of coach Herm Edwards and his staff, many of whom were still in their offices this past Friday for year-end personnel evaluation meetings. It's a tough spot for a lot of good football men, and Hunt would be doing the Hunt-like, classy thing by finalizing their status before the majority of jobs around the league are filled. In turn, if Edwards and his assistants are fired by the new general manager, the Chiefs could move quickly to interview some of the top head coaching candidates who have yet to be plucked by other clubs. Mike Reiss can be reached at mreiss@globe.com. © Copyright 2009 Globe Newspaper Company. 1 2 http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...man/?page=full __________________ 1 Thessalonians 5:3 “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” KJV
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01-12-2009, 01:31 AM	#2888
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