The Pioli Watch Thread

[cardken]

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

New info?.....


http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...kc_starti.html


Pioli, KC talks heating up

Email|Link|Comments (0) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff January 10, 2009 10:05 PM
Discussions between the Kansas City Chiefs and Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli have intensified, according to an NFL source.

Although negotiations had not begun as of early tonight, word out of Kansas City was that the possibility of a marriage was picking up momentum.

Even before he interviewed last Monday, Pioli was presumed to be the Chiefs’ top choice to run their football operation. That hasn’t changed since Kansas City chairman Clark Hunt conducted a thorough, close-to-the-vest search that has included multiple candidates.

Hunt, interim president Denny Thum, and Pioli have increased their dialogue and think they could form a strong partnership, which is crucial, because regardless of whom the Chiefs hire, that person will have to work closely with Thum.

As part of the search for a general manager, Hunt has stated that he plans to split the job, with Thum handling business matters and the new hire focusing mostly on the football side.

Although it has been suggested that Pioli, 43, might be seeking total control and thus wouldn’t be comfortable with such an arrangement, the increased intensity of talks indicate that might not be the case.

Hunt has decided to split the job after former general manager Carl Peterson, who was with the club for 20 years, held both titles. In dividing the job, Hunt has said he wants a general manager who would be a ‘‘fresh set of eyes’’ and ‘‘shrewd evaluator of talent.’’

Pioli, a two-time Sporting News Executive of the Year Award winner, would qualify.

While Pioli and the Chiefs moved closer, Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels has emerged as a top candidate to become the Denver Broncos head coach, according to Adam Schefter of the NFL Network.

McDaniels had a second interview with the Broncos last Thursday

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[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

That's when you trade down then, no? I'm not a big draft guy. To me a draft is when they put the beer into the glass for you.

I can see a trade down now due to the reported endorsement that Pioli gave Albert.It's all relative how the organization wants to structure itself.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by Claythan

Come on, dude. I know you're holding out hope that your mancrush head coach will be here next season, but if Pioli is hired, Herm's ass is grass.

Get used to it.

So I am supposed to take your personal conjecture to the bank, eh?

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Bingo.

Show me an "expert" who got even the top 20 off the board to the correct team, and I'll buy you a steak dinner.

We are talking the top 3 picks. Its pretty tough to get them wrong.

[Hammock Parties]

Alright, Proctor. Keep holding on to hope.

I can't wait to see your reaction when he's fired.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

So I am supposed to take your personal conjecture to the bank, eh?

Its not so much 'personal conjecture' as it is common ****ing sense. Jesus. You don't think a new GM won't want his own guy?

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by Claythan

Alright, Proctor. Keep holding on to hope.

I can't wait to see your reaction when he's fired.

I like Herm, but I can see the 2009 Chiefs with a new HC. It happens. I am not overly invested in Herm, I just think he deserves another year because he has had only 1 year to rebuild a team that has not been totally rebuilt since the late 1980s. If not, oh well, go Chiefs.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

Its not so much 'personal conjecture' as it is common ****ing sense. Jesus. You don't think a new GM won't want his own guy?

Maybe. But Mr. Hunt said he's the final arbiter and he is fond of Herm.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

I like Herm, but I can see the 2009 Chiefs with a new HC. It happens. I am not overly invested in Herm, I just think he deserves another year because he has had only 1 year to rebuild a team that has not been totally rebuilt since the late 1980s. If not, oh well, go Chiefs.

Most of the "Herm supporters" talk like this is his first head coaching stint.

It's not. The same mistakes he made with the Jets, he made with the Chiefs.

He's just an awful HC.

He's had 3 years to fix a defense. He came in here, much like Gunther, talking a big game about playing defense.

"His" defense was 32nd in the NFL.

There is just no logical argument to say that Herm deserves another chance. He didn't "deserve" his first head coaching job, and he doesn't deserve to spend one more year sinking this franchise.

Not only will it be great when the new GM is hired because they aren't Carl, it will also be great because Herm's lame ass is finally gone and we can really move forward.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Maybe. But Mr. Hunt said he's the final arbiter and he is fond of Herm.

There's no respectable GM coming in here getting saddled with Herm.

Also, Clark has backed off the fact that he's the final word with Herm.

Herm is a dead man walking. He better start networking at the game he's never watched - the Super Bowl.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Schwartz as HC with Pioli as GM would be awesome.

I'd have no fear we'd bump that sack total up next year.

From a fan/spectator's point of view one of the most exciting D plays to me is the blitz. Schwartz, they were saying on the tube, hardly has any blitz package in his play-book. I'm not saying this to knock him, but I think the blitz is pretty exciting to watch. I'm sure he is a pretty good HC candidate though.

[beach tribe]

The only way Herm stays is if the new GM wants to have a top 5 pick again next year.

If he's watched Herm's tape, he would know that He is the man for the job.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Frankie

From a fan/spectator's point of view one of the most exciting D plays to me is the blitz. Schwartz, they were saying on the tube, hardly has any blitz package in his play-book. I'm not saying this to knock him, but I think the blitz is pretty exciting to watch. I'm sure he is a pretty good HC candidate though.

I hate to admit it, but this is a large reason I was into Spagnuolo. Defense is so much more entertaining with crazy-ass blitz packages.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Since LJ is the centaur, perhaps Pees could be the one-eyed monster?

Fits. We have a couple Johnsons and Cox on the roster.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Frankie

From a fan/spectator's point of view one of the most exciting D plays to me is the blitz. Schwartz, they were saying on the tube, hardly has any blitz package in his play-book. I'm not saying this to knock him, but I think the blitz is pretty exciting to watch. I'm sure he is a pretty good HC candidate though.

He doesn't blitz because 39 of the Titans 43? sacks came from the front four. There was no need to blitz, if he didn't have to take a man out of coverage to get pressure on the QB.

EDit: without THAT front four, he MIGHT be more inclined to blitz.