The Pioli Watch Thread

[cardken]

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Posnanski's been AP Sports Columnist of the Year I believe twice.

Right.

But he's NOT the sports section. He's an occasional columnist who's doing less and less work for the Star.

He's a great writer.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

How much credit does Teicher get nationally? How many awards?

Posnanski he's not.

Never said he did.

Of course Posnanski he is not. He is a beat writer.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Not to bust your balls, Zach but from whom?

Posnanski's been writing for SI and Whitlock for AOL and now Fox Sports.

But the KC Star Sports section getting national acclaim?

They don't break any stories of nationwide interest (i.e. the SF Chronicles and the Balco scandal), they don't cover high-profile teams like the Lakers, Dodgers, Mets, Giants or Yankees (let alone the Cubs or Red Sox) and their beat writers (like Teicher) flat-out suck.

http://www.kansascity.com/awards/

"Sports Daily won top-10 honors for its Sunday sections and special sections. The Star also led all big-circulation newspapers in 2006 with seven top-10 finishes in the contest’s writing categories."

I don't really give that much of a shit about the Star but it is funny to hear people bitch and moan about the beat writing. They are dependent on the Chiefs organization. Who isn't all that information friendly.

So which way do CPers prefer to slam them because they will be able to either way. Either they pass on what they can confirm from the organization or they could go on unnamed sources and rumors that may or may not pan out because that is the nature of the process.

But what do I know THEY ARE THE WORSTEST IN THE HISTORY OF WRITING!!!

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Right.

But he's NOT the sports section. He's an occasional columnist who's doing less and less work for the Star.

He's a great writer.

That's true now, but he did receive those awards when the Star was his meal-ticket, and I'd say he's still their main attraction, although some would argue it's Whitlock.

In any case, papers are dying everywhere, the Star hasn't cornered the market on that. Just the way of things.

[noa]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Right.

But he's NOT the sports section. He's an occasional columnist who's doing less and less work for the Star.

He's a great writer.

He's had some great stuff in Sports Illustrated lately.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

Never said he did.

Of course Posnanski he is not. He is a beat writer.

Yes, he is.

And he's not a very good one.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Claythan

Dude, seriously, I don't know when to shut my mouth on this shit, so I'm a reerun, but Nick was up at 1 AM last night working his sources. He doesn't make stuff up.

That's just simply NOT ****ING TRUE.

I 100% know the guy makes up stuff. He made up stuff to ME PERSONALLY.

Why should I believe he's any different now?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

So which way do CPers prefer to slam them because they will be able to either way. Either they pass on what they can confirm from the organization or they could go on unnamed sources and rumors that may or may not pan out because that is the nature of the process.

But what do I know THEY ARE THE WORSTEST IN THE HISTORY OF WRITING!!!

Have you ever listened to Teicher on the radio? He is on 610 once a week or so and pretty much what he says the opposite happens. For someone that practically lives at Arrowhead he doesn't get good info or has lousy sources.

[bowener]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

This thread is like climbing Everest. I read 12 pages to get to 54, then the ****er is at 58, now it will be at 60 by the time I post this, and the worst part is its like some weird universe where every post is repeated every 6 pages, really it is.

Its like scaling Everest and being 100 feet from the peak, but a cloud bank blocks your view, as you climb through it you find yourself halfway up the ****ing mountain.

Will somebody at the peak throw a large rock at me from up there? This shit is getting reeruned Im grouchy and want a new GM right NAO!

[bowener]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

There is certainly alot of smoke right now. This looks good for us Chiefs fans. This shit is killer. Lets hear something concrete already. lol

Unfortunately, it seems where this smoke is there is no fire, just a giant smoldering bowl of really great pot.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by bowener

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

This thread is like climbing Everest. I read 12 pages to get to 54, then the ****er is at 58, now it will be at 60 by the time I post this, and the worst part is its like some weird universe where every post is repeated every 6 pages, really it is.

Its like scaling Everest and being 100 feet from the peak, but a cloud bank blocks your view, as you climb through it you find yourself halfway up the ****ing mountain.

Will somebody at the peak throw a large rock at me from up there? This shit is getting reeruned Im grouchy and want a new GM right NAO!

Finally, some news...

From the coalition website:

Interesting take on Pioli from the Boston Globe chat area:

Update from someone inside the Chiefs organization!
Submitted by Rocky Alden on January 7, 2009 - 6:13pm.

Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight (money & control), but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Opera the web browser...

You will have to excuse Tim. He is not a hipster.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

That's just simply NOT ****ING TRUE.

I 100% know the guy makes up stuff. He made up stuff to ME PERSONALLY.

Why should I believe he's any different now?

he said shit as fact that i knew was 100% untrue.
nuff fo me.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

But what do I know THEY ARE THE WORSTEST IN THE HISTORY OF WRITING!!!

Zach again, I'm not busting your balls so please don't take it personally.

But I just don't see how the Star is nationally recognized when they don't break any stories and more to the point, the teams they cover certainly aren't newsworthy on a national scale.

I like both Whitlock and Posnanski's columns and always have. But they aren't "journalists" per se, they editorialize and comment, which is far different than actual sports reporting.

And yes, JoPo's writing for SI has been great.

[Archie Bunker]

Originally Posted by bowener

Unfortunately, it seems where this smoke is there is no fire, just a giant smoldering bowl of really great pot.

Count me in.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Finally, some news...

jerk