The Pioli Watch Thread

[cardken]

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by ILChief

So you expect people to pay over $100 a year for the same thing 610 reports on the radio?

I don't really expect anything, dude.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Reports that Patriots Vice President of Player Personnel Scott Pioli turned the Browns off with his "outrageous demands" were absolutely false, multiple sources close to the situation told The Plain Dealer Wednesday.

So these demands were false in Cleveland, but exist in KC?

Someone is FOS on this one, and my money is on 610.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I fully anticipate at least 10 people starting a new thread "breaking it" when it actually happens...

Probably. If that's the case, I WILL at least merge all the threads that say the same thing together. I only started merging this one together when I logged in one day to see five different "I heard this rumor about Pioli" threads on the front page.

[Bill Lundberg]

http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/606

Chiefs likely sole remaining suitor of Pioli


With Cleveland reportedly deciding on former Jets coach Eric Mangini to replace Romeo Crennel, that makes it far less likely that New England personnel man Scott Pioli will end up as the Browns' general manager.
Pioli reportedly wants to hire his own people and, if nothing else, make his own decision on the direction of the team that hires him. There are few bigger directional shifts than a coaching change, and the Cleveland job probably just lost much of its luster for a man who appears eager to make his own name and establish a team's future.
Pioli reportedly interviewed this week with Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt, who is looking to name Kansas City's first general manager in more than 20 years. Pioli seems to fit Hunt's profile, but Pioli also reportedly wants total control of a franchise. Hunt has said he will split the president and GM jobs that Peterson held for two decades.
The Browns and Chiefs had been the top suitors for Pioli, who might be just as interested in staying with the Patriots, with whom he has won three Super Bowls since joining his friend Bill Belichick in 2000.
Hunt gave no update on the GM search during or after Peterson's farewell event at Chiefs headquarters.

Submitted by Kent Babb on January 7, 2009 - 5:56pm.
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Update from someone inside the Chiefs organization!
Submitted by Rocky Alden on January 7, 2009 - 6:13pm.
Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight, but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.
I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.
The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.
Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

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YEaH!
Submitted by kraymin on January 7, 2009 - 8:18pm.
Chris from KC?FLORIDA?
This is exactly what I have inferred thus far. First off it's common sense. All you read on the web was that Pioli was "the" sought after man in the NFL. Everyone was supposedly eyeing him. Until he met with Clark. Then... nothing at all. Noone was after him or even mentioning his name any longer. His former suitors moved on and began interviewing other prospects. There's a reason this is all so very hush hush in KC. It's because big things are happening right now. Just be excited for us ok? Quit bithcing.

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Rocky Alden What are you even talking about
Submitted by chiefssuckin2008 on January 7, 2009 - 7:11pm.
LOL Rocky, Nobody is not going to even believe you that you have any power to find this information out and everybody knows that you dont know nothing about all of this...and if you do...Name your site and source
Dont you even watch the news or read what is going on
Clark Hunt said these words. I will not decide on a NEW GM till after the Pro Bowl
and how many of us people think we are going to believe what you say anyways
You dont know what is going on anyways...We dont know if Scott Pioli is going to be names our new GM or not no body does
So do us all a favor
GET THE PEACE PIPE OUT OF YOUR MOUTH AND STOP SMOKING IT WITH YOUR STONER FRIENDS

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I wish...
Submitted by eherrman on January 7, 2009 - 6:24pm.
I might have bought what you said if it weren't for the fact that every single tid bit was the best case scenario. When something is too good to be true, it generally is not true.

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eherrman
Submitted by chiefssuckin2008 on January 7, 2009 - 7:13pm.
Rocky Alden does not even know what he is talking about. He is probably some High School student running around with his buddies and getting stoned on his Peace Pipe

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Rocky Alden
Submitted by chiewmanfan21 on January 7, 2009 - 7:52pm.
Are you all living under a rock??? Rocky Alden has provided cutting edge accurate information time after time. In fact I can’t recall a time one of his posts hasn’t been correct. You all will see in due time and respect will be owed to him by all you haters!!!
WHO IS ON THE PEACE PIPE??? NOT ROCKY!

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Rocky Alden
Submitted by chiewmanfan21 on January 7, 2009 - 7:56pm.
Hey Rocky, How did Carl act behind the scenes when he left?

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Alden knows his stuff!
Submitted by macktruck on January 7, 2009 - 8:02pm.
I too can verify the validity of Rocky’s info. He has been VERY accurate in the past! Thanks for the info Rocky! Now I can relax and wait for the press conference. I was nervous the Chiefs would screw this one up but Clark has stepped up for us all.

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chiefssuckin2008
Submitted by kcsportsfan21 on January 7, 2009 - 8:05pm.
Sounds like you are the one on a peace pipe not Rocky! Clark never said anything about waiting until after the pro bowl. You must be a Peterson follower!

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LOL!
Submitted by kraymin on January 7, 2009 - 8:21pm.
Chris from KC?FLORIDA?
That is so true my man. Never once did Petersen say anything like that..I say if you are so accureate reveal YOUR sources and your sites. Ha!! Just jealous huh? Good post Chiefssuckin2008.

[The Bad Guy]

Why do people keep reporting that Pioli wants to be team president too?

It's complete bullshit.

He wants full control over FOOTBALL operations.

[KChiefs1]

Rocky Alden is Mike Alden's(Mizzou AD) wife!

[ILChief]

So who is Rocky Alden and what news has he broke in the past?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Why do people keep reporting that Pioli wants to be team president too?

It's complete bullshit.

He wants full control over FOOTBALL operations.

Because they are Acolytes in the Loyal Order of the Corky, that's why.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Because they are Acolytes in the Loyal Order of the Corky, that's why.

WTF?

[Fritz88]

Something related by Peter King "the part is highlighted"

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1

Speed of Mangini hiring makes for compelling, risky move by Browns


Peter King's Mailbag

In a moment, I'll get to the question for the Cleveland Browns of "Why Eric Mangini, and why now?'' It's a surprise, obviously, but once Cleveland owner Randy Lerner figured he couldn't entice Scott Pioli to become the Browns' general manager, Lerner was going to go for the best coach on the market. Mangini convinced Lerner eight nights ago that his ties to Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick made him that man.

But first, a few thoughts about what's next, which might be just as compelling as the hiring of Mangini. I think Lerner will next hire a worker-bee general manager. That might not be the end of the remaking of his front office. I believe Lerner will try to entice a big name to serve as the kind of Parcells-type overseer to his front office (Mike Holmgren, perhaps) who could help Mangini and the new, young general manager chart the long-term course for the Browns' future.

I'm not sure if that's smart, or just a desperate reaction to losing Pioli. But I don't think Lerner will hire a GM next, then just let the team percolate.

Now for the story of why Lerner hired Mangini, fired nine days ago by the Jets. The former Browns' PR intern will be introduced as head coach Thursday morning at the club's training facility in Berea, Ohio.

When Lerner decided to replace his general manager, Phil Savage, and his head coach, Romeo Crennel, one of the things he was adamant about was getting an out-front leader for the franchise as part of his new coach/management team. Lerner figured that would be Pioli, the vice president of player personnel for the New England Patriots who helped build a skidding franchise into a three-time Super Bowl champion. Lerner and Pioli met for about seven hours last Wednesday, and Lerner was sure Pioli was the top candidate to come in and rebuild his team.

But Pioli never gave Lerner the indication that he was prepared to take the job. A source close to Lerner told SI.com that, contrary to some reports, Pioli was never offered the job, nor was he given a deadline by which time he had to accept or reject the job. The Lerner source also said Pioli never made any demands that gave Lerner cold feet. Lerner felt Pioli might go somewhere else (Kansas City, perhaps), or he might return to the Patriots.

Lerner felt if he waited for Pioli to make up his mind, he might be waiting a week or two, or maybe longer, and there was no guarantee he'd get Pioli. Also, he wasn't convinced he'd be able to convince the other big name on the market, fired Denver coach Mike Shanahan, that the Browns' job was the perfect one for him. So he interviewed four coaches -- Mangini; his own defensive coordinator, Mel Tucker; Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo; and New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. He liked Mangini far and away the best. In the interview, Mangini stressed how much he'd learned coaching at the right hand of Parcells (with the Jets) and Belichick (with the Jets and Patriots) and he talked chapter and verse about what he'd learned in his three years coaching the Jets. Lerner, as did many of his peers around the league, felt Mangini got a raw deal in New York. Who fires a 37-year-old coach with winning seasons in two of his first three years?

In the end, Lerner was so smitten with Mangini that he chose him over the superb young quarterback tutor, McDaniels, and he chose not to wait for any of the coaches on the eight teams in the playoffs -- names like defensive coordinators Rex Ryan and Jim Schwartz of the Ravens and Titans, respectively. Surely he'll be questioned about that decision at the Thursday press conference. Why not wait? No other team was lining up to steal Mangini from him. It's a question that will dog this franchise if one of the candidates Lerner bypasses goes on to great coaching career. But what Lerner will say, I'm sure, is some variation of this: I was convinced that Mangini was our man, so there was no reason for me to wait.

It's a compelling, risky decision by Lerner. It makes the Browns a compelling team in 2009.

[the Talking Can]

i have clicked on this thread 1,234,567,890 times today

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i have clicked on this thread 1,234,567,890 times today

I just read that same article four posts ago...

Mmm; REDUNDANT!

[Mr. Arrowhead]

how far will this thread go when Pioli is officially named GM

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

how far will this thread go when Pioli is officially named GM

Update from someone inside the Chiefs organization!
Submitted by Rocky Alden on January 7, 2009 - 6:13pm.
Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight, but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.
I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.
The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.
Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.



According to Rocky Alden he will be announced tomorrow or Friday.

[Bill Lundberg]

If History holds up there is no way we end up with Pioli.

See: Hugh Douglas, Ed Hartwell, etc., etc., etc.