The Pioli Watch Thread

[cardken]

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Take notes Clark...

This is how you aggressively pursue a top GM candidate.

Of course we wouldn't want the Chiefs GM search (or "Chiefs Duty" as I'm sure Clark would call it) to interfere with Clark's holiday vacation.

Dude, you shouldn't make accusations like this unless you have even the faintest idea of what's going on.

I heard on Sirius NFL Radio today Pat Kirwan bashing the Browns for this move, saying it was unreasonable to force Pioli to make a decision today, as if they had some kind of leverage. We'll see how this turns out, but if Pioli wanted a few days to think about it, this was a very bad move for the Browns.

[unothadeal]

Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis

Clark could offer him HJ's, BJ's and ZJ's to come to KC. Pioli may just not want to and would rather go to Cleveland. What further rationale is needed?

What's a ZJ?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by crossbow

Take notes Clark...

This is how you drive off potential candidates because of your impatience.

Yup.

Cleveland has already demonstrated that they:
-Have no patience and feel they can bully GM candidates around because they feel like their GM position is such a prized position
-Obviously have shown that the GM does NOT have ultimate power to decide the next head coach, because they already fired their head coach and are interviewing other candidates without the new GM present
-Obviously have shown that the GM position is not one to feel comfortable with, given that they fired their last GM after only a few seasons

I don't know why any top candidate would want to go to Cleveland after knowing all that.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Dr. Jesus

Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, Pioli isn't the guy that Clark's after? He's just another hot name. I have a good feeling that clark wants one of the boys from baltimore, indy or NYG.

this

[bowener]

Wow, it looks like the Browns are really trying to improve by getting the best guys. Everything I read says the requested permission for discussions first with ever candidate.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by bowener

Wow, it looks like the Browns are really trying to improve by getting the best guys. Everything I read says the requested permission for discussions first with ever candidate.

is this a joke?

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Brock

Owner is most important. The rest, not so much.

Agreed.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

KC is still pretty decent place to land though

decent, but not the top job anymore.

When we were looking for a coach in 2002 and 2005 we were considered the best job out there available.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Clark has officially requested permission to speak to Pioli.

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...s_request.html

Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff December 31, 2008 02:25 PM

Patriots Vice President of Player Personnel Scott Pioli is scheduled to interview with the Cleveland Browns today, and the process could move quickly due to the interest of a second team.

In addition to the Browns, the Kansas City Chiefs have also officially asked for permission to speak with Pioli, according to an NFL source.

With the Chiefs now officially putting their hat into the ring, it could lead to a situation in which the Browns put the full-court press on Pioli assuming their meeting with him goes well, and snow in the region does not alter itineraries.

The Browns have also officially requested permission to speak with Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels for their head coaching vacancy.

[blueballs]

Originally Posted by sedated

when did a quiet search become the same as no search at all?

everyone associated with the Chiefs said Clark is being professional, methodical, and won't leak anything about candidates. no one knew about Carl being ousted until the day it happened, either.

way to get your panties in a bunch just because the chiefs aren't on the ESPN bottom line every 2 minutes.

I believe this is the problem
same group that gripes about getting no respect
immature

[Zouk]

Kansas City is the best job out there for a couple of reasons.

1) Clark Hunt is extremely smart, more patient than just about all the other owners, and does not meddle strongly in football affairs. Plus he is getting a new stadium that will bring in more revenue and he is financially stable as far as I know.

2) The amount of cap space and the lack of bad contracts (LJ excepted) provides a blank canvas for a new personnel man to form whatever he wants with really no restrictions.

The only thing that would make Pioli work for Lerner in Cleveland rather than come to KC is based on where he and his family want to live.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Zouk

Kansas City is the best job out there for a couple of reasons.

1) Clark Hunt is extremely smart, more patient than just about all the other owners, and does not meddle strongly in football affairs. Plus he is getting a new stadium that will bring in more revenue and he is financially stable as far as I know.

2) The amount of cap space and the lack of bad contracts (LJ excepted) provides a blank canvas for a new personnel man to form whatever he wants with really no restrictions.

The only thing that would make Pioli work for Lerner in Cleveland rather than come to KC is based on where he and his family want to live.

You're forgetting that Pioli wants total control wherever he goes.

That is something Clark has repeatedly said is not going to happen in KC.

The football and business sides of the organization will be headed by different people.

[dorseybowe]

Pioli is evil. Evil only works in New York, New England, etc. Not KC's type. Like Larry Johnson.

[rad]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Clark has officially requested permission to speak to Pioli.

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...s_request.html

No way he even makes it here. Cleveland will wrap him up tighter than the lid on a pickle jar now.

Oh well....NEXT!!

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Clark has officially requested permission to speak to Pioli.

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...s_request.html

I hope he makes it here. Like I mentioned, if it were me I'd listen to all parties. But I'm not a highly touted GM candidate with millions of dollars being thrown at me. Heck I'd say yes to $500,000 a year lol.