I'm Really Tired of Fair Weather Fans

[Shox]

I understand the Chiefs are not a good football team. But, I am so tired of all the people who post on this website claiming the Chiefs are totally void of talent. It is just a stupid, stupid comment. The Chiefs a full of young talented players. No they are not at the point where they can win consistently in the NFL, but look at what a bunch of 1, 2 and 3 year players did. They were in every single game except for a couple. With another year of two experience, a quality leader at QB, and maybe a few quality experienced FA and these guys could certainly be a very good NFL football team.

Offense:
LT Brandon Albert - Had an excellent rookie season. Could easily be a top NFL LT in the coming years.

RB Jamal Charles - had some very good moments this season. I don't believe he is an everydown RB, but he certainly could be a very good change of pass guy which every team seems to need now in the NFL.

QB Tyler Thigpen - Ok you certainly can't be totally sold on TT, but he really had a pretty season considering his experience. He has the arm, he can add the run dimension to the QB position, and I think he is a leader. Can he learn to read defenses and be more accurate with his throws? The point is he has some real talent. With only five years of QB experience in his life he has showed me something.

TE Cottham - His opportunities where limited playing behind the greatest TE of all time, but he appears to be a pretty good blocker and showed he can catch a pass or two.

WR Dwayne Bowe - Has all the talent and ability to be a Hall of Fame caliber WR. Needs to learn to be more focused and how to be a professional WR. If he does that, nobody will have a better WR in the NFL.

Defense:
CB Brandon Flowers - Had a very, very good rookie campaign at a difficult position to play with absolutely zero help from his front seven as far as QB pressure goes. This guy should be a very solid CB at worst for several years and very possibly an elite CB in the near future.

CB M. Leggett - Here is a rookie FA who made an impact. One of those guys who is a football player. He will probably never be a superstar, but he certainly looks like a guy you love to have on your team. Always around the football, very good special teams guy, he just makes plays as a role player. Great football teams have guys like Leggett.

LB Derrick Johnson - He has become a very nice LB. I don't really see him becoming a superstar NFL LB, but he can play for any NFL team.

DT Glenn Dorsey - Jury is certainly out on GD. Really did not meet expectations during his rookie campaign. But, he was not horrible by any means. DT is an very tough transition to make from college to pros. How many DTs can you think of who has made a huge impact as a rookie. Added strenght, bulk, experience, and talent on the front line around him and GD could certainly become a dominate DT.

DE Tomba Hali - He will almost certianly never be a superstar, but he is a pretty solid DE. Again you put some better talent around him and he will make a bigger impact (Remember his impact when JA was around).

S Pollard/Page - A couple of young safties who have proven they can play at a pretty high level in the NFL. Again they just need some help up front so they don't have to defend receivers for 6+ seconds every pass play.

If you put some quality NFL coaches around this group of guys, which I don't think they have had up to this point, have another good draft this year, find a couple of FA with some leadership and experience the 2009 Chiefs could be the 2008 Dolphins.

I'm not saying everyone should blindly drink the Chiefs coolaid, as a lot of things could go wrong. But don't insult them buy saying the team has no talent. Best of all we have finally purged ourselves King Carl and certainly the coaching staff is soon to follow. Things are looking up in Chiefland if you ask me.

[StcChief]

fair weather fans don't post here.

[Huffman83]

Originally Posted by triple

when is that scheduled for, 2011?

Remember, IF AND WHEN! But hopefully sooner than later.

[blaise]

I think people can be as negative as they want, especially the ones paying tax dollars to fund the stadium renovations, even though a lot of them have been priced out of the actual games.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Yes, it will.

Ignore this moron, Shox. Carry on...

Oh damn.....

Here kind sir, let me help you put out the fire with a can of gas.

[luv]

With Herm as HC, and only counting regular season, we are 15/48 (15/49 if you do count the wild card game). 15/48 makes us .313 for the three years he's been here. With the Jets, he was .487. Overall, Herm has a .422 record as HC.

[Bwana]

Oh, and on a side note Dart, you are NOT a TRUE FAN!!

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by luv

With Herm as HC, and only counting regular season, we are 15/48 (15/49 if you do count the wild card game). 15/48 makes us .313 for the three years he's been here. With the Jets, he was .487. Overall, Herm has a .422 record as HC.

Herm is 6-26 with out mostly Dicky V's players.

[cdcox]

Shox, your takes on individual players aren't terrible. I'd probably push your ratings on DJ, Hali, and Page/Pollard down a notch.

The point is that we need several future pro-bowlers among the young guys to push for a SB. You can point to Albert, Bowe, and Flowers as having that potential. Too soon to say one way or another on Dorsey. But we also need stars at the QB and LDE position, and those are hard to find.

When people complain about the talent, they are probably referring to the fact that at the moment we still need to turn over at least half of our starters to be truly competitive for a Super Bowl.

I have no interest on being next year's Miami.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Oh, and on a side note Dart, you are NOT a TRUE FAN!!

I call BS. My toes have still not thawed out from that last home game. If that's not a true fan, I don't know what is.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Shox, your takes on individual players aren't terrible. I'd probably push your ratings on DJ, Hali, and Page/Pollard down a notch.

The point is that we need several future pro-bowlers among the young guys to push for a SB. You can point to Albert, Bowe, and Flowers as having that potential. Too soon to say one way or another on Dorsey. But we also need stars at the QB and LDE position, and those are hard to find.

When people complain about the talent, they are probably referring to the fact that at the moment we still need to turn over at least half of our starters to be truly competitive for a Super Bowl.

I have no interest on being next year's Miami.

Not being nit pickety, but I think you mean RDE.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Yes, it will.

Ignore this moron, Shox. Carry on...

****ing troublemaker.

[KC Dan]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I call BS. My toes have still not thawed out from that last home game. If that's not a true fan, I don't know what is.

Mine were very toasty in my sports bar here...

[FloridaMan88]

So if the Chiefs are "full of young talented players" as you claim why did they finish 2-14, despite playing in a historically weak AFC West?
And your claim that the Chiefs were in "every single game except for a couple"?

The fact is 7 of the Chiefs 14 losses (which would be HALF of their losses) were by 10+ points.

Get your head out of Herm's ass and try reality.

[aturnis]

I'm Really Tired of Fair Weather Fans

I understand the Chiefs are not a good football team. But, I am so tired of all the people who post on this website claiming the Chiefs are totally void of talent. It is just a stupid, stupid comment. The Chiefs a full of young talented players. No they are not at the point where they can win consistently in the NFL, but look at what a bunch of 1, 2 and 3 year players did. They were in every single game except for a couple. With another year of two experience, a quality leader at QB, and maybe a few quality experienced FA and these guys could certainly be a very good NFL football team.

I wouldn't call these guys fair weather fans. A fair weather fan stops following "his team" altogether when they suck, and comes back to claim he's been a fan for years when they play well and win SB's.

The guys who criticize the level of talent on the team, I would consider realists. That being said, I don't think you are actually fed up with "realists" but the guys who are delusional to a negative extreme. Such as Mecca. Mecca believes that every player on a SB caliber team is a superstar. In that sense, he's an idiot. Just like a guy who thinks every player who plays for the Chiefs is an idiot. A Championship team doesn't need to be all superstars. They need a few superstars, a few difference makers, and a lot of solid starters backed with solid back-ups. Just my .02 .

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by aturnis

I'm Really Tired of Fair Weather Fans


I wouldn't call these guys fair weather fans. A fair weather fan stops following "his team" altogether when they suck, and comes back to claim he's been a fan for years when they play well and win SB's.

The guys who criticize the level of talent on the team, I would consider realists. That being said, I don't think you are actually fed up with "realists" but the guys who are delusional to a negative extreme. Such as Mecca. Mecca believes that every player on a SB caliber team is a superstar. In that sense, he's an idiot. Just like a guy who thinks every player who plays for the Chiefs is an idiot. A Championship team doesn't need to be all superstars. They need a few superstars, a few difference makers, and a lot of solid starters backed with solid back-ups. Just my .02 .

QFT. Every word of it