Chiefs I'm Really Tired of Fair Weather Fans - Page 2

Shox · 12-30-2008, 11:51 AM

I understand the Chiefs are not a good football team. But, I am so tired of all the people who post on this website claiming the Chiefs are totally void of talent. It is just a stupid, stupid comment. The Chiefs a full of young talented players. No they are not at the point where they can win consistently in the NFL, but look at what a bunch of 1, 2 and 3 year players did. They were in every single game except for a couple. With another year of two experience, a quality leader at QB, and maybe a few quality experienced FA and these guys could certainly be a very good NFL football team.

Offense:
LT Brandon Albert - Had an excellent rookie season. Could easily be a top NFL LT in the coming years.

RB Jamal Charles - had some very good moments this season. I don't believe he is an everydown RB, but he certainly could be a very good change of pass guy which every team seems to need now in the NFL.

QB Tyler Thigpen - Ok you certainly can't be totally sold on TT, but he really had a pretty season considering his experience. He has the arm, he can add the run dimension to the QB position, and I think he is a leader. Can he learn to read defenses and be more accurate with his throws? The point is he has some real talent. With only five years of QB experience in his life he has showed me something.

TE Cottham - His opportunities where limited playing behind the greatest TE of all time, but he appears to be a pretty good blocker and showed he can catch a pass or two.

WR Dwayne Bowe - Has all the talent and ability to be a Hall of Fame caliber WR. Needs to learn to be more focused and how to be a professional WR. If he does that, nobody will have a better WR in the NFL.

Defense:
CB Brandon Flowers - Had a very, very good rookie campaign at a difficult position to play with absolutely zero help from his front seven as far as QB pressure goes. This guy should be a very solid CB at worst for several years and very possibly an elite CB in the near future.

CB M. Leggett - Here is a rookie FA who made an impact. One of those guys who is a football player. He will probably never be a superstar, but he certainly looks like a guy you love to have on your team. Always around the football, very good special teams guy, he just makes plays as a role player. Great football teams have guys like Leggett.

LB Derrick Johnson - He has become a very nice LB. I don't really see him becoming a superstar NFL LB, but he can play for any NFL team.

DT Glenn Dorsey - Jury is certainly out on GD. Really did not meet expectations during his rookie campaign. But, he was not horrible by any means. DT is an very tough transition to make from college to pros. How many DTs can you think of who has made a huge impact as a rookie. Added strenght, bulk, experience, and talent on the front line around him and GD could certainly become a dominate DT.

DE Tomba Hali - He will almost certianly never be a superstar, but he is a pretty solid DE. Again you put some better talent around him and he will make a bigger impact (Remember his impact when JA was around).

S Pollard/Page - A couple of young safties who have proven they can play at a pretty high level in the NFL. Again they just need some help up front so they don't have to defend receivers for 6+ seconds every pass play.

If you put some quality NFL coaches around this group of guys, which I don't think they have had up to this point, have another good draft this year, find a couple of FA with some leadership and experience the 2009 Chiefs could be the 2008 Dolphins.

I'm not saying everyone should blindly drink the Chiefs coolaid, as a lot of things could go wrong. But don't insult them buy saying the team has no talent. Best of all we have finally purged ourselves King Carl and certainly the coaching staff is soon to follow. Things are looking up in Chiefland if you ask me.

Mr. Laz · 12-30-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

I understand being a pissed of fan, I'm one of those as well. But, it is primarily King Carl and the coaching philosophy which has made this team 2 and whatever.

I'm just tired of the ragging about a complete void of talent. If I was taking over a football team I would rather have the Chiefs roster a lot of teams.....Rams, Lions, Seahawks, Buc (yes the Bucs), 49ers, Raiders, to name a few.

carl was here for 20 years and has only been gone 2 days

give them a second to adapt

triple · 12-30-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Huffman83

if and when the Chiefs go 13-3

when is that scheduled for, 2011?

Thig Lyfe · 12-30-2008, 12:08 PM

stfu noob

Shox · 12-30-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

stfu noob

Don't believe I will jackass.

Frazod · 12-30-2008, 12:10 PM

Bad teams don't have fair weather fans. GOOD TEAMS have fair weather fans that go away when they start doing shit like, oh, for instance, going 2-14.

Get over yourself. We bitch about these reeruns and and we're damned well entitled to do so.

Shox · 12-30-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Bad teams don't have fair weather fans. GOOD TEAMS have fair weather fans that go away when they start doing shit like, oh, for instance, going 2-14.

Get over yourself. We bitch about these reeruns and and we're damned well entitled to do so.

Bitch all you want, but at least have the intelligence to bitch about the right things.

Frazod · 12-30-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

Bitch all you want, but at least have the intelligence to bitch about the right things.

Attempting to tell people what they should bitch about will not work out well for you here.

MikeMaslowski · 12-30-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

Bitch all you want, but at least have the intelligence to bitch about the right things.

no wonder you have your rep turned off....

Shox · 12-30-2008, 12:13 PM

I think I'll survive ok. Thank you for your concern.

ChiefJustice · 12-30-2008, 12:13 PM

Where's Mecca?

He would enjoy this.

Deberg_1990 · 12-30-2008, 12:15 PM

Shox,

I actually agree with alot of your observations about the players you wrote.

Where u ran into problems was your intro calling people fair weather fans. Poorly worded.

BigChiefFan · 12-30-2008, 12:16 PM

Aren't you bitching about the bitchers? ****ing rookie.

**Dartgod** · 12-30-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Attempting to tell people what they should bitch about will not work out well for you here.

Yes, it will.

Ignore this moron, Shox. Carry on...

**Skip Towne** · 12-30-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski

no wonder you have your rep turned off....

Turning his rep off does not prevent us from neg repping him. It still counts. Fire away!!

**RealSNR** · 12-30-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

Bitch all you want, but at least have the intelligence to bitch about the right things.

Okay, fine.

The Chiefs have a handful of players with talent, and you have a handful of braincells.

Happy?

12-30-2008, 11:51 AM
Shox Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $10005765	I'm Really Tired of Fair Weather Fans I understand the Chiefs are not a good football team. But, I am so tired of all the people who post on this website claiming the Chiefs are totally void of talent. It is just a stupid, stupid comment. The Chiefs a full of young talented players. No they are not at the point where they can win consistently in the NFL, but look at what a bunch of 1, 2 and 3 year players did. They were in every single game except for a couple. With another year of two experience, a quality leader at QB, and maybe a few quality experienced FA and these guys could certainly be a very good NFL football team. Offense: LT Brandon Albert - Had an excellent rookie season. Could easily be a top NFL LT in the coming years. RB Jamal Charles - had some very good moments this season. I don't believe he is an everydown RB, but he certainly could be a very good change of pass guy which every team seems to need now in the NFL. QB Tyler Thigpen - Ok you certainly can't be totally sold on TT, but he really had a pretty season considering his experience. He has the arm, he can add the run dimension to the QB position, and I think he is a leader. Can he learn to read defenses and be more accurate with his throws? The point is he has some real talent. With only five years of QB experience in his life he has showed me something. TE Cottham - His opportunities where limited playing behind the greatest TE of all time, but he appears to be a pretty good blocker and showed he can catch a pass or two. WR Dwayne Bowe - Has all the talent and ability to be a Hall of Fame caliber WR. Needs to learn to be more focused and how to be a professional WR. If he does that, nobody will have a better WR in the NFL. Defense: CB Brandon Flowers - Had a very, very good rookie campaign at a difficult position to play with absolutely zero help from his front seven as far as QB pressure goes. This guy should be a very solid CB at worst for several years and very possibly an elite CB in the near future. CB M. Leggett - Here is a rookie FA who made an impact. One of those guys who is a football player. He will probably never be a superstar, but he certainly looks like a guy you love to have on your team. Always around the football, very good special teams guy, he just makes plays as a role player. Great football teams have guys like Leggett. LB Derrick Johnson - He has become a very nice LB. I don't really see him becoming a superstar NFL LB, but he can play for any NFL team. DT Glenn Dorsey - Jury is certainly out on GD. Really did not meet expectations during his rookie campaign. But, he was not horrible by any means. DT is an very tough transition to make from college to pros. How many DTs can you think of who has made a huge impact as a rookie. Added strenght, bulk, experience, and talent on the front line around him and GD could certainly become a dominate DT. DE Tomba Hali - He will almost certianly never be a superstar, but he is a pretty solid DE. Again you put some better talent around him and he will make a bigger impact (Remember his impact when JA was around). S Pollard/Page - A couple of young safties who have proven they can play at a pretty high level in the NFL. Again they just need some help up front so they don't have to defend receivers for 6+ seconds every pass play. If you put some quality NFL coaches around this group of guys, which I don't think they have had up to this point, have another good draft this year, find a couple of FA with some leadership and experience the 2009 Chiefs could be the 2008 Dolphins. I'm not saying everyone should blindly drink the Chiefs coolaid, as a lot of things could go wrong. But don't insult them buy saying the team has no talent. Best of all we have finally purged ourselves King Carl and certainly the coaching staff is soon to follow. Things are looking up in Chiefland if you ask me.
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Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-536615	Bad teams don't have fair weather fans. GOOD TEAMS have fair weather fans that go away when they start doing shit like, oh, for instance, going 2-14. Get over yourself. We bitch about these reeruns and and we're damned well entitled to do so.
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