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Old 10-07-2008, 12:52 PM  
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How could anyone believe that Herm Edwards can deliver a Superbowl to KC?
I don't mean to come off as a troll - at least not in this thread. But this question confounds me, especially in light of the fact that there seem to be quite a few Herm defenders here (Hermines? srsly). What exactly has Herm demonstrated in his career that could lead anybody to believe that he's capable of running the kind of organization that can win a Championship? The guy seems like he would be a FANTASTIC defensive coordinator to me. But I just don't understand what he's ever done to make anyone believe that he can maintain a consistent football team, let alone navigate the playoffs and deliver a championship.
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:29 PM   #76
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:12 PM   #77
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I haven't seen anyone defending Herm.

But he did come within a missed FG of the AFC Championship. That gave us hope when he was hired. I guess.
Your other personality has defended Herm since day 1. I guess that's the same persona who keeps telling us how good Brodie looks in camp too.
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:39 PM   #78
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Your defended him plenty....

Nothing gave us hope when he was hired... His ego has destroyed this franchise..

There is nothing about Herm that says he will ever win a Superbowl. He doesnt have the mental compacity to be a forward thinker... We knew when he was hired we were screwed for the future...

People praised his "keen eye" for talent, Which many have doubted his talent evaluations for years...

Herm proveds this fanbase and franchise absolutely nothing, the sooner he is gone the better.. I am sure Jets fans everywhere are crying about losing Herm to the Chiefs...

I would take a drunken pooh flinging monkey as HC over Herm...

Lets also not forget how herm gift wrapped the 06 playoff game against the colts. I swear, we could have won that damn game, its almost like he just wanted his good buddy to have it more... What was it?....him and tony dungy had a bet, or somthing like that...it had to do with getting to the superbowl? I wouldnt be surprised if herm said, "well, we might beat them, but we wont beat the patriots, so Ill lay my team down *which was really DVs team* and let his team live to fight anothre day.... /rant (and I am still pissed off about that game)
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:46 PM   #79
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No - not at 1-8. At the end of the year. If we're 1-8, and finish 6-10 I think that's success.

4 wins or less is failure and he'll be fired. 6 wins or more is success and he stays. 5 wins is amiguous. But I want to see the whole movie.
6 wins would be the absolute worst team ever for this team.

6 wins would ensure that Herm comes back.

6 wins would ensure that we have no chance at getting guy like Stafford.
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:47 PM   #80
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Lets also not forget how herm gift wrapped the 06 playoff game against the colts. I swear, we could have won that damn game, its almost like he just wanted his good buddy to have it more... What was it?....him and tony dungy had a bet, or somthing like that...it had to do with getting to the superbowl? I wouldnt be surprised if herm said, "well, we might beat them, but we wont beat the patriots, so Ill lay my team down *which was really DVs team* and let his team live to fight anothre day.... /rant (and I am still pissed off about that game)
I had the same feeling about that game. They are good buddies and Dungy was on a hot seat at the time.
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:31 PM   #81
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I had the same feeling about that game. They are good buddies and Dungy was on a hot seat at the time.
I hate herm even more now...
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:06 PM   #82
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Exactly! Just think what woulda happened had Carl brought Herm in as DC/assistant head coach under DV. coulda, woulda, shoulda.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:09 PM   #83
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Lets also not forget how herm gift wrapped the 06 playoff game against the colts. I swear, we could have won that damn game, its almost like he just wanted his good buddy to have it more... What was it?....him and tony dungy had a bet, or somthing like that...it had to do with getting to the superbowl? I wouldnt be surprised if herm said, "well, we might beat them, but we wont beat the patriots, so Ill lay my team down *which was really DVs team* and let his team live to fight anothre day.... /rant (and I am still pissed off about that game)
Riiiight he purposely threw the game and all the players just agreed with it The better team won that day. Dungy just embarrased Hermy.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:17 PM   #84
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In all fairness its really hard to expect any coach to win a lot of games with a team like this rebuilding... I knew everyone would back the rebuild during the offseason even though they knew this would happen... but when the season actually happens all hell breaks loose. Sounds like a bunch of hypocrites to me.
It is not that.. Herm is trying to play it safe with the young guys during the rebuild.. You let them go out there and play.. Call plays that will excel them in the game, not put leashes on them..

How is calling plays that the defense and offenses of opposing teams know what we are doing.. We telegraph blitzes and our running plays.. We are not letting the young learn or build on the season..

Herm is just hindering them.. The Chiefs will be no better next year at this rate..
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:26 PM   #85
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Exactly! Just think what woulda happened had Carl brought Herm in as DC/assistant head coach under DV. coulda, woulda, shoulda.
Herm would of stabbed DV in the back ass fast as he could.. Herms EGO will not allow him to work under someone with fair superior football coaching skills...
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:28 PM   #86
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Riiiight he purposely threw the game and all the players just agreed with it The better team won that day. Dungy just embarrased Hermy.
Im not saying the players did, our defense proved that! Im saying herm did. look at our game plan, the colts knew what we were going to do, they were geared up to stop the run. Our OL, while it wasnt good, still had Shields at the time. That line was better than it is now. Trent Green (mixed with the play calling) sucked gigantic balls. We played herm ball, and lost. We had less than 200 yards of total offense. When Herm should have went to the sidelines for huard, he didnt. Did you even watch the 06 playoffs?
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Did you even watch the 06 playoffs?
I regret that I watched that game....
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:29 AM   #88
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In all fairness its really hard to expect any coach to win a lot of games with a team like this rebuilding... I knew everyone would back the rebuild during the offseason even though they knew this would happen... but when the season actually happens all hell breaks loose. Sounds like a bunch of hypocrites to me.
I think we all knew that the players would struggle. We all understood that there would be growing pains with young players. I also think most are still willing to be patient where the rebuilding applies to the players. However, the part that is not acceptable is the coaching and thier handling of the rebuilding project. In no way are these players being put in a position to win. From a play calling standpoint, or a psychological standpoint.

Speaking for myself, I have no issue with the players, I have a problem with the coaching. There is no bigger hypocrite than Edwards. He says one thing and does something else. If there was any faith in the coaching, the growing pains would be a little more bearable. The way it is, even if the players start to get better, the coach (Edwards) wont.
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:16 AM   #89
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How could anyone believe that Herm Edwards can deliver a Superbowl to KC?
I promise you , I have not had that vision since Vermil has left, Herm was not the answer.
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Exactly! Just think what woulda happened had Carl brought Herm in as DC/assistant head coach under DV. coulda, woulda, shoulda.
I guess we'd have the 30th ranked D in the league. Like we do right now.
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