How could anyone believe that Herm Edwards can deliver a Superbowl to KC?

[Taco John]

I don't mean to come off as a troll - at least not in this thread. But this question confounds me, especially in light of the fact that there seem to be quite a few Herm defenders here (Hermines? srsly). What exactly has Herm demonstrated in his career that could lead anybody to believe that he's capable of running the kind of organization that can win a Championship? The guy seems like he would be a FANTASTIC defensive coordinator to me. But I just don't understand what he's ever done to make anyone believe that he can maintain a consistent football team, let alone navigate the playoffs and deliver a championship.

[RustShack]

I can ****ing say **** all I ****ing want because I ****ing don't have a ****ing word filter ****ing on. **** YEAH!

I'm ****ing sorry about this ****ing post... just ****ing ignore it.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Taco John

I don't mean to come off as a troll - at least not in this thread.

An hour and a half and 45 replies later and no discussion in the thread that you started. You may not mean to come off as a troll, but you are one.

[Rasputin]

My thoughts of Herm hire was best case senario, he builds a team gets fired and the next year we win a Super Bowl! Just like the Tampa Bay Bucaneers fired Tony Dungy and hired Jon Grueden. That was just wishfull thinking though.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by RustShack

In all fairness its really hard to expect any coach to win a lot of games with a team like this rebuilding... I knew everyone would back the rebuild during the offseason even though they knew this would happen... but when the season actually happens all hell breaks loose. Sounds like a bunch of hypocrites to me.

It's not just wins and loses. It's the way the team plays and how prepared they are week in and week out. It's coaching decisions too. For instance bringing in a player from the practice squad to under center so we can run the option. Playing Thigpen over Huard because we want to "see what he can do". It's starting all these young guys except at two positions that everyone can identify as a huge weekness. We continue to start the vets even though we have some young guys who could step in and get the reps and improve. The vets aren't going to improve. As much as Herm talks about sticking to the plan he's not sticking to it across the board. If Herm had his team better prepared and the team was remotely competetive I think alot of fans would be more patient. But we don't seem prepared and we have not been competetive in half of the games we've played in. With things the way they are I don't see the fans calling for Herms head as hypocrites.

PhilFree

[RustShack]

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[Monty]

Originally Posted by Taco John

But I just don't understand what he's ever done to make anyone believe that he can maintain a consistent football team, let alone navigate the playoffs and deliver a championship.

He spent the night at Holiday Inn Express?

[keg in kc]

Herm defenders?

Where?

[SBK]

I haven't read this whole thread, but Herm could indirectly bring one to KC. He won the fight with the front office to build a team correctly, and if we win one it'll be because he gave King Carl a f8tality.

[triple]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Most of the timers here realized immediately this was a Carl hire. Buddies from Philly. Buddies from the early Marty era. Somebody to take the place of Gunther as "the foot shuffling porter"

Carl only hires people he knows and whom he knows will not give him any trouble.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

True, but come on....the guy is in his 3rd year now. At some point you have to stop blaming everything on the previous administration.

Think about where the team was at in DV's 3rd year..

Im thankful to Herm for cleaning out the trash of older vets, but we have yet to see any sort of "real" improvement overall.

So far, that 2006 draft looks like a huge disappointment.

Best post EVAR!!!

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by RustShack

In all fairness its really hard to expect any coach to win a lot of games with a team like this rebuilding... I knew everyone would back the rebuild during the offseason even though they knew this would happen... but when the season actually happens all hell breaks loose. Sounds like a bunch of hypocrites to me.

It's not about winning, it's about improving. People were all for rebuilding because it needed to be done. It was the only thing we could do. We needed to get younger, and since the goal was to go from a completely one-sided team to at least a balanced team and at most a conservative offense with a good defense, the best thing for the Chiefs was to get young asap. The Chiefs couldn't just hang onto what was there, because what was there wasn't all that great anyway.

The problem is that we have the most inf***ingcompetent coach in the history of the NFL, AFL, NFLE, CFL, USFL, XFL, NCAA CFB, and high school powder-puff. Part of the optimism of rebuilding was Chan Gailey... but how stupid were we to think Herm would leave him alone so he could run his own offense? As long as Herm has his hands all over the offense, the rebuild on that side of the ball is at a standstill. What about the defense? I thought Herm was good at that part of his job?

Yeah, I guess we're all hypocrites for wanting the rebuild done well. We're all hypocrites for having an ounce of faith that, with a new coordinator, something would change. It never changes with Herm. That's kind of a bad thing when you're trying to rebuild... ahem, you know, CHANGE and get better.

Originally Posted by RustShack

Our team is full of Herm players, and they are also young young Herm players. They will have up and down games on matter who we have coaching. I however do think there are guys who would do better than Herm, and at the same times there are people who would be doing worse(I know hard to imagine). However I do want Carl/Herm and co gone after this year. It really would be a good team for someone to take over. The team is full of young guys, a lot of them will have some experience after this year and the new organization should have high draft picks to work with and a newly remodeled facilities.

Might as well complete the rebuild. We should fire Herm today so Gailey can get control of the offense and Croyle and company can spend the rest of the year in his offense instead of Herm's. The players will get better, but Herm never will. He got left behind years ago.

[Zouk]

The case is not that difficult to make. His resume is similar to Belichick's before he got Brady, and to Tony Dungy's before he got Peyton Manning. Look it up. Both of those coaches showed they were very good in Tampa and Cleveland (considering the talent they had), but people were too stupid to notice it.

And no one was making the case for either of those 2 to make a Super Bowl either. In fact, many many many people said that they could not win a Super Bowl because of their approach on offense (Dungy) or their lack of ability to motivate players (Belichick).

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Zouk

The case is not that difficult to make. His resume is similar to Belichick's before he got Brady, and to Tony Dungy's before he got Peyton Manning.

I'm not even going to address the Belichick comparison, because it's quite obviously ludicrous. Not that any of Belichick's teams were this god awful, anyway.

But Tony Dungy has never had two losing seasons in a row. Unless there's a miraculous turnaround, Herm is about to be a losing head coach three out of the last four years.

The Herm Edwards era in Kansas City is an utter failure. I'm looking forward to see your reaction when he's fired.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by Claythan

I haven't seen anyone defending Herm.

But he did come within a missed FG of the AFC Championship. That gave us hope when he was hired. I guess.

Heck, Marty knows all about that crap.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by triple

Herm's approval rating is 0%

Herm is qualified to be President.