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Old 09-15-2008, 03:56 PM  
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I want to Punch Jay Cutler in the Face
Not because he beat my team, but just look at him

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Old 09-15-2008, 09:47 PM   #136
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...not to mention, apparently there is a league-wide conspiracy to give Denver wins. I'm not sure why people like you and Titus aren't butt-****king rich given your knowledge of this plot.
Well, it's only one game a week, and besides, the bought refs-shit only works in close games.
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Old 09-15-2008, 09:48 PM   #137
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You are 100% correct with this statement. I am not arguing anymore, so just hear me out.

The whistle actually didnt blow until right about when the Chargers LB had it, but it may have been a couple seconds before.

Both Jay Cutler and Tim Dobbins continued at 100% effort even after the whistle had blown. That is why the NFL is likely to come up with some kind of rule change this offseason.

You won the game, thats in the books, but you cannot deny that in a game where the Chargers did not get one bounce their way, until that play, it is shitty for the Chargers fans to get that taken away from them.

No they won't. They're not going to come up with a rule change. There absolutely no way to do it. You can't ask refs to guage whether a player is giving 100% effort or not after a whistle has blown. It's impossible.
You can't tell who's letting up, and who is not when EVERYONE is supposed to let up after the whistle. This rule will never change.
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Old 09-15-2008, 09:49 PM   #138
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Well, it's only one game a week, and besides, the bought refs-shit only works in close games.


I wish we'd have had a lot more close games the last few years then.
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Old 09-15-2008, 09:49 PM   #139
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Yeah and the Chargers had 2 chances after the bad call, they had two drives earlier that ended up as FG's right down near the endzone. The Chargers had plenty of other plays and drives that they themselves screwed up, not to mention the 2 minute march down the field to give denver another TD right before half.
Thats why I was discrediting your comparison because it shouldn't have mattered, right?
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Old 09-15-2008, 09:50 PM   #140
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Thats why I was discrediting your comparison because it shouldn't have mattered, right?
But it did. Perhaps that's why your players couldn't stop Eddie Royal... They were too busy mentally defeated thinking that this play shouldn't be happening...
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Old 09-15-2008, 09:52 PM   #141
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No they won't. They're not going to come up with a rule change. There absolutely no way to do it. You can't ask refs to guage whether a player is giving 100% effort or not after a whistle has blown. It's impossible.
You can't tell who's letting up, and who is not when EVERYONE is supposed to let up after the whistle. This rule will never change.
I'm sure it will, just like the down by contact rule.

Before they changed the rule prior to last season, if they ruled a player down by contact and the whistle had blown, the play was over, the offense keeps the ball.

The change made it so that even if the player was ruled down by contact, and the whistle had blown, if it was reviewed and determined that the fumble came before the whistle, the defense would get possesion, but any return of the fumble after the whistle had blown would be nullified.

If they used the same theory in this situation, the Chargers would have been rewarded possession at the spot in which Dobbins recovered the ball, but the extra 5 yards he picked up would not have been granted.
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Old 09-15-2008, 09:53 PM   #142
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Thats why I was discrediting your comparison because it shouldn't have mattered, right?
I know but the whole reason I brought that play up in the first place is because trust me I know how it feels to go into a division rivals place and have it feel like it was stolen away. It sucks but it happens and yes I admit I'm glad the Broncos were on the good end of that yesterday.
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I wish we'd have had a lot more close games the last few years then.
Yeah, it is lame. With all the cheating you guys really should have had much more success over the past decade.
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:06 PM   #144
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When the opposing team's blatant, obvious, inexcusable cheating is a key factor in Denver being knocked out of the playoffs, and that team goes on to win the Super Bowl, check back with me.
Super Bowl, Denver vs. Washington. Redskins QB Doug Williams takes the snap, drops back, trips over his own feet, drops the ball, Denver recovers...

...BUT WAIT! The refs rule "Williams gave himself up." Play dead, Redskins ball.


Super Bowl, Denver vs. NY Giants. Throwing from deep in their own territory, Elway completes a pass to his Tight End for a first down...

... BUT WAIT! The refs call it incomplete. It goes to the replay booth for review... but the clock doesn't stop and the Broncos are forced to run a play. The play results in a safety - and the replay booth announces the original pass WAS COMPLETE... but it's too late. The Safety stands.


AFC Playoffs, Denver vs. Kansas City (yes, that same game). Chiefs punt, ball CLEARLY bounces in the endzone, but it's called dead at the one-yard line. Of course, in THAT GAME the Broncos overcame that travesty and WON instead of crying about it for the next decade+.


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Old 09-15-2008, 10:11 PM   #145
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Super Bowl, Denver vs. Washington. Redskins QB Doug Williams takes the snap, drops back, trips over his own feet, drops the ball, Denver recovers...

...BUT WAIT! The refs rule "Williams gave himself up." Play dead, Redskins ball.


Super Bowl, Denver vs. NY Giants. Throwing from deep in their own territory, Elway completes a pass to his Tight End for a first down...

... BUT WAIT! The refs call it incomplete. It goes to the replay booth for review... but the clock doesn't stop and the Broncos are forced to run a play. The play results in a safety - and the replay booth announces the original pass WAS COMPLETE... but it's too late. The Safety stands.


AFC Playoffs, Denver vs. Kansas City (yes, that same game). Chiefs punt, ball CLEARLY bounces in the endzone, but it's called dead at the one-yard line. Of course, in THAT GAME the Broncos overcame that travesty and WON instead of crying about it for the next decade+.


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No, dickhead, it isn't.

Deliberate illegal application of a foreign substance to the uniforms of your players IN THE LOCKER ROOM BEFORE THE GAME does not equate with a blown call.
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Super Bowl, Denver vs. Washington. Redskins QB Doug Williams takes the snap, drops back, trips over his own feet, drops the ball, Denver recovers...

...BUT WAIT! The refs rule "Williams gave himself up." Play dead, Redskins ball.


Super Bowl, Denver vs. NY Giants. Throwing from deep in their own territory, Elway completes a pass to his Tight End for a first down...

... BUT WAIT! The refs call it incomplete. It goes to the replay booth for review... but the clock doesn't stop and the Broncos are forced to run a play. The play results in a safety - and the replay booth announces the original pass WAS COMPLETE... but it's too late. The Safety stands.


AFC Playoffs, Denver vs. Kansas City (yes, that same game). Chiefs punt, ball CLEARLY bounces in the endzone, but it's called dead at the one-yard line. Of course, in THAT GAME the Broncos overcame that travesty and WON instead of crying about it for the next decade+.


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Final Score, Super Bowl XXII - Washington 42 - Denver 10

Final Score, Super Bowl XXI - NYG 39 - Denver 20

Final Score, Chiefs vs. Denver Playoff Game - Denver 14 - KC 10

Final Score, Chargers vs. Denver week 2 - Denver 39 - SD 38

The first 2 instances happened in blowouts, the latter 2 were in way closer games.
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Neither of those Super Bowls were blowouts till after the horrible calls. Especially that Giant game was winnable.

And when the calls were made, the Refs DIDN"T KNOW they were going to be blowouts - OR DID THEY?!

As for the "illegal substance" - THERE WASN'T ANY!

Marty's complaint was that there was TOO MUCH - that's why the refs just had the Broncos towel off. There were - as I recall - NO PENALTIES CALLED AND NO FINES.

Or do I misremember?
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Neither of those Super Bowls were blowouts till after the horrible calls. Especially that Giant game was winnable.

And when the calls were made, the Refs DIDN"T KNOW they were going to be blowouts - OR DID THEY?!

As for the "illegal substance" - THERE WASN'T ANY!

Marty's complaint was that there was TOO MUCH - that's why the refs just had the Broncos towel off. There were - as I recall - NO PENALTIES CALLED AND NO FINES.

Or do I misremember?
There wasn't any? That's rich.

Yes, I'm aware there were no penalties and no fines. The ref$ were in the Rat's pocket from the time the game started until it was over.

Keep on trying to rewrite history though. Maybe you can grow a soul as well.
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There wasn't any? That's rich.

Yes, I'm aware there were no penalties and no fines. The ref$ were in the Rat's pocket from the time the game started until it was over.

Keep on trying to rewrite history though. Maybe you can grow a soul as well.
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There wasn't any? That's rich.

Yes, I'm aware there were no penalties and no fines. The ref$ were in the Rat's pocket from the time the game started until it was over.

Keep on trying to rewrite history though. Maybe you can grow a soul as well.
**** you with your the refs were/are in the Rat's pockets nonsense. The Chiefs haven't won anything because they're a piss poor franchise.

There is absolutely no basis to your allegations aside from the fact that THE BRONCOS RULE ALL!!!
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