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Old 09-14-2008, 08:05 PM  
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It's early. There are a dozen major plot twists still to come. A Stanford or a Pittsburgh or a Colorado may yet have something to say about the chase for the 2008 national championship.

But as we stand today, three weeks into the season, three teams stand above and apart from all the rest: USC, Oklahoma and Missouri.


Heisman hopeful Chase Daniel leads a potent Missouri offense.




And of those three, USC stands on its own plane after making Ohio State look like Ohio State can look when it plays the big boys: slow, weak, soft and overmatched.

The big three have won their eight games by a combined score of 429-114. And they all have played at least one somebody.


USC has taken on two teams that won a combined 20 games in 2007, and squashed them both. This is a complete team, dominant right now in all phases. Gazing down the Trojans' schedule, it's hard to envision where the challenges will come from between now and January.


Oklahoma has cranked up its passing game to another level in routing Cincinnati and Washington. The Sooners are scoring points in gushes, pushing quarterback Sam Bradford up the Heisman Trophy lists.


But he isn't even the leading Heisman candidate in his own league. That would be Missouri QB Chase Daniel, who has more touchdowns (seven) than incompletions (six) the past two weeks. Which is just silly. The Tigers put 52 on Illinois in the opener, 52 more on Southeast Missouri State and then a whopping 69 on Nevada (a 2007 bowl team) on Saturday.
Missouri and Oklahoma don't meet in the regular season, which could make the Big 12 championship game slightly enormous (if both of them can beat Texas, among others, in a salty league).


None of this means the Southeastern Conference won't have a say in the proceedings. But so far, the SEC is specializing in UglyBall, taking a little of the luster off its top teams.


Georgia wheezed its way to 14 points against a South Carolina team coming off a loss to Vanderbilt. And the Bulldogs needed a Gamecocks fumble into the end zone to avoid a potential overtime. The Dogs haven't looked like anything special yet.


Florida was decidedly unspectacular against young Miami at home Sept. 6. The Gators looked susceptible up front on offense to pressure in that game and will have to prove they can beat a blitz consistently in a league that will bring a lot of heat.


Auburn scored three points Saturday. And won.


LSU might yet be up to a defense of its national title, but the Tigers haven't played any meaningful games to get a true gauge on their quarterback play.


So at this moment, a trio of teams have separated themselves from the pack. But at this stage last year, the big four were USC, LSU, Oklahoma and Florida. All went on to lose more than once.


Remember that. Nobody wins anything permanent in mid-September.
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Old 09-15-2008, 08:42 PM   #61
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WTF are you talking about you f'n moron? MU finished ranked #1 in the Big 12 last year for total defense. What about that leads you to the conclusion that our "Di is not so good"?

Seriously, I want to hear you back up your brilliant assessment, considering we're returning 10 starters from the Big 12's #1 defense.
Uh, you game up 42 points against Illinois? Just a guess.
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Old 09-15-2008, 08:43 PM   #62
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Since 2007, Mizzou is 15-2.

You = moron
And before that? Good programs are not made in 2 years.
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Old 09-15-2008, 08:43 PM   #63
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Uh, you game up 42 points against Illinois? Just a guess.
So you dismiss an entire season of defense based on one game? And not only one game, but the first game of a new season? You sure are bright.
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Old 09-15-2008, 08:45 PM   #64
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So you dismiss an entire season of defense based on one game? And not only one game, but the first game of a new season? You sure are bright.
Yes because I have said so many times you guys wont be good because your D sucked. Read my post, I said you won't be good team with a D like that, but I am not saying it's not fixable or anything. Please, go back and read it.
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Old 09-15-2008, 08:47 PM   #65
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You can't be serious. You can't win a football game with the D they have now. Remind me of the Chiefs a few years back.
Can't win a football game?

Really??? Really???????????????
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Can't win a football game?

Really??? Really???????????????
With the D that played against Illinois, they won't be able to beat a good team right now. Sorry, it's the truth. Not saying they won't step it up.
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And before that? Good programs are not made in 2 years.
No. Typically a good football coach takes about 5 years to build the program he wants, and to see the results. When did Pinkel take the job?
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With the D that played against Illinois, they won't be able to beat a good team right now. Sorry, it's the truth. Not saying they won't step it up.
So, you're basically saying nothing. Correct?
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Oh, I forgot you have to be from the same state to like that team No one ever told me that one. My step dad lived in OK and is a huge OU fan and I have been ever since I met him when I was about 10.

Where were all these great MU fans when they weren't winning ball games? I never saw them.
Funny, I thought you were 10 now.

I've been a Missouri fan all my life, and I don't need some twerp (step dad liked OU? oh boy ) like you implying that I'm a fair weather fan. Has the level of interest in them increased lately? Of course. But consider that I can't even watch their games on TV unless they're highly ranked because I live in northern Illinois. Prior to a couple of years ago, I'd be lucky to see them play once or twice a year.
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With the D that played against Illinois, they won't be able to beat a good team right now. Sorry, it's the truth. Not saying they won't step it up.
I don't think any Mizzou fan will tell you that the defense doesn't need to get better, but they are 2-0 against teams that played in bowl games last year and they appear to be able to score at will.
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So, you're basically saying nothing. Correct?
LOL I am saying the D they played against Illinois will not cut it against good team. You can only base their D off the first game (because they last two were easy games) and the first game, they did not play very well.
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Funny, I thought you were 10 now.

I've been a Missouri fan all my life, and I don't need some twerp (step dad liked OU? oh boy ) like you implying that I'm a fair weather fan. Has the level of interest in them increased lately? Of course. But consider that I can't even watch their games on TV unless they're highly ranked because I live in northern Illinois. Prior to a couple of years ago, I'd be lucky to see them play once or twice a year.
Seriously, you trying to make fun of my age has no effect on me, it really doesn't. Just trying to save you some time.

But, but, according to you, you should but Illinois fan since your from there

Yep, I started watching them around that age, I guess that still makes me a band wagoner because I didn't have a mini TV set when I came out of the womb with a OU Texas game on
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I don't think any Mizzou fan will tell you that the defense doesn't need to get better, but they are 2-0 against teams that played in bowl games last year and they appear to be able to score at will.
Fair enough, thats all I said and a bunch of people got offended and started their little MU rants like they do.
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Seriously, you trying to make fun of my age has no effect on me, it really doesn't. Just trying to save you some time.

But, but, according to you, you should but Illinois fan since your from there

Yep, I started watching them around that age, I guess that still makes me a band wagoner because I didn't have a mini TV set when I came out of the womb with a OU Texas game on
I live here now, Midnight Stummpy. I'm not from here. Why would somebody from Illinois be a fan of the Tigers and the Chiefs? Dumbass.
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I live here now, Midnight Stummpy. I'm not from here. Why would somebody from Illinois be a fan of the Tigers and the Chiefs? Dumbass.
Wow, are you trying to tell me you have to be from a certain state to like a certain team. And your calling me a dumbass? You have got to be kidding me, I am not going to even argue about this stuff any more, your worth my time.

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