Even if the HC/OC playcalling changes dramatically...... - Page 3

chiefsfan1963 · 09-25-2007, 05:29 PM

can this really make up the deficiences in our OL? Are we really a true playoff team? Will we again push ourselves out of a Top 5 or Top 10 draft position next year by squeezing out 7,8, or perhaps 9 wins?

This would be truly disappointing!

Rasputin · 09-25-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

wow ..... KC Tatto, Carl Peterson must love you.

I hope for my sake I didn't suggest any thing in favor of CP. I just want a QB change and mostly a GM change, if I can get either of the two soon I will be a pretty happy Chiefs fan with a

Tattoo.

chiefbowe82 · 09-25-2007, 09:25 PM

if we win this upcoming week we're going to the playoffs, this is a huge-huge-huge game

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-25-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_CHIEFS_06

if we win this upcoming week we're going to the playoffs, this is a huge-huge-huge game

chiefsfan1963 · 09-25-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

we're running a butt sex version of the West Coast...literally the dumbest offense I've seen....

as noted, if you're going to slam the RB into 8-9 man fronts then have to also counter with deep routes to a) capitalize on safeties creeping up and then b) push the safeties back to open up the butt sex run game...duh

we play butt sex and then throw swing passes with safeties crowding the los...durrrrr...

I think LJ/Bowe/Gonzo are perfect for a norv-turner era Coryell offense...obviously our OL is inferior, but still...

we need to be hitting Bowe in stride crossing the field 20yards deep so he can run with it....make the safeties worry all the time, then Gonzo owns the middle, and LJ has room to breathe...and we can run a legitimate play-action...etc...

but Herm wants to run the clock, not score....so we'll continue to execute an offense that is doomed to fail...

I like the plan.

chiefsfan1963 · 09-25-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I think it all go's back to the QB on he should be making quick and decisive decisions. Get the ball out quickly to the wrs where they can catch them and make + yards on each play. Our recievers can catch slants and short crossing patterns that would give us a short 2nd or 3rd down then we can mix up the run or pass on those situations. (west coast?) But we need a QB who can deliver the football on time and with accuracy (kind of like Croyle would do if given opportunity).

We mostly end up with 3rd and long and expect them to make a big first down. We need to get + yards on first and second down to convert an easy 3rd down. If we ever get close to the goal line, pound the ball with Boomer and LJ, & then playaction bootleg would be cool and work with Croyle.

We are dead in the water with #11 an eleven year career clipboard holding QB who is not decisive or that accurate with the football.

For pete sakes AUDIBLE out of a run if the line is stacked with 8-9 guys!!

GB pretty much did this, and kept them on their toes.
Unlike GB we have a running game, LJ. If we do as you say this could give us a chance this Sunday.

Mecca · 09-25-2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Who cares about all of those shifts and motions? Apparently other teams have figured them out and know it's still going to be a running play. I think Herm still uses it to keep the DV fans happy that he didn't muck with the offense. Reality is it's not helping and is a little too much for our team to execute without having many penalties.

This team needs to get it's own identity, and if it wants to be a smash mouth run it down your throat in your face, then we need to line up like that is what we are going to do. Line up so the team shows that it is going to ram the ball down yer throat and there is nothing you can do about it. Football is attitude and if you have attitude to "win" on every play and the talent to back it then that is how you win games, imho. We have the talent to pull this off but we don't have the attitude to get it done.

To the tune of 2 yards a carry, we really impose our will on other teams don't we?

Mecca · 09-25-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

GB pretty much did this, and kept them on their toes.
Unlike GB we have a running game, LJ. If we do as you say this could give us a chance this Sunday.

Unlike us GB has a QB that makes throws......

chiefsfan1963 · 09-25-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Who cares about all of those shifts and motions? Apparently other teams have figured them out and know it's still going to be a running play. I think Herm still uses it to keep the DV fans happy that he didn't muck with the offense. Reality is it's not helping and is a little too much for our team to execute without having many penalties.

This team needs to get it's own identity, and if it wants to be a smash mouth run it down your throat in your face, then we need to line up like that is what we are going to do. Line up so the team shows that it is going to ram the ball down yer throat and there is nothing you can do about it. Football is attitude and if you have attitude to "win" on every play and the talent to back it then that is how you win games, imho. We have the talent to pull this off but we don't have the attitude to get it done.

Don't agree. We need them to respect the quick throws, slants, etc... then we give them the steady dose of LJ. Making progress creates momentum followed by confidence then ATTITUDE!!!!!!!

In the end I just don't have the confidence in our coaching staff or Front Office to do the right thing.

chiefsfan1963 · 09-25-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Unlike us GB has a QB that makes throws......

The problem is he's not making those easier throws. This all goes back to playcalling and gameplanning and ultimately COACHING!!!!!!!!

I believe Huard can make those throws.

Mecca · 09-25-2007, 10:11 PM

In fairness, if the Chiefs had Huard putting it up 35 timse which is what you should be doing when a team is stacking the line, he'd throw picks.

Which goes back to why a lot of don't think he should be playing...

Hammock Parties · 09-25-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

In fairness, if the Chiefs had Huard putting it up 35 timse which is what you should be doing when a team is stacking the line, he'd throw picks.

Which goes back to why a lot of don't think he should be playing...

Huard threw it 29 times without an interception. YOU LOSE.

Mecca · 09-25-2007, 10:17 PM

Considering how far a lot of those went......

Huard is a really good example of stats making a guy look way better than he really is.

sedated · 09-25-2007, 10:19 PM

Huard is teh under-rated.

If he could ever get a consistent chance to open up the playbook.

sedated · 09-25-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Huard is a really good example of stats making a guy look way better than he really is.

lets have another example, please...

irishjayhawk · 09-25-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

Wiegmann's the worst.

Granted, he's been up against beasts, but Houston's DTs clowned him and it happened all last year.

We need to draft a C somewhere between round 2-5.

He was perfect for the Saunders offense when the line moved horizontally. Now we're a smash mouth team and we move vertically. I think that's his problem. If he's outside on the run, he usually does just fine.

09-25-2007, 05:29 PM
chiefsfan1963 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2001 Casino cash: $10005060	Even if the HC/OC playcalling changes dramatically...... can this really make up the deficiences in our OL? Are we really a true playoff team? Will we again push ourselves out of a Top 5 or Top 10 draft position next year by squeezing out 7,8, or perhaps 9 wins? This would be truly disappointing!
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-492950	In fairness, if the Chiefs had Huard putting it up 35 timse which is what you should be doing when a team is stacking the line, he'd throw picks. Which goes back to why a lot of don't think he should be playing...
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-492950	Considering how far a lot of those went...... Huard is a really good example of stats making a guy look way better than he really is.
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