If Herm gets this team to the playoffs - Page 2

ChiefsCountry · 09-17-2007, 05:10 PM

what would you do? Would anybody admit that he was better than Vermeil? Would you bitch and moan? Would you think it was a fluke?

**cdcox** · 09-17-2007, 05:26 PM

What is stupifying is that we made it last year by Huard playing better than expected. When something is better than expected you expect it to fall back toward its true average the following year. Yet all projections of the Chiefs having a good year hinged on Huard having the same kind of year that he had last year. That wasn't very realistic. Coupled with the neutering of the offense by the 1 Arrowhead Drive braintrust, this difference is enough to drive a 9-7 playoff team to a five win team, even with improvements at several other positions.

Coach · 09-17-2007, 05:28 PM

What's that? Uh -- Playoffs? Don't talk about -- playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game!

Remember the problems when Paul Wiggin and Frank Ganz were the Head Coaches?

It's the same garbage in a slightly different wrapper.

OctoberFart · 09-17-2007, 05:31 PM

KC isn't going to the playoffs. End of story.

splatbass · 09-17-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by donkhater

On top of ALL that....The man mismanages a game horribly. Don't tell me that every head coach gets second guessed. I don't see Belichick, Fisher, Shanahan, Holmgren routinely mismanaging the clock or situation. If you'd like, I could point to at LEAST 3 obvious terrible stategic calls yesterday. Now maybe some of that is on Solari and other assistants, but the buck stops with Herm.

Did you see Shanahan taking a timeout just before the Raiders kicked what would have been a winning field goal? He waited until the last second and the players on the field didn't even know it had been called. The Raiders thought they had won for a second, then had to go and kick it again - and missed. That won the game for Denver. I can't see Herm doing something like that.

KCTitus · 09-17-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Did you see Shanahan taking a timeout just before the Raiders kicked what would have been a winning field goal? He waited until the last second and the players on the field didn't even know it had been called. The Raiders thought they had won for a second, then had to go and kick it again - and missed. That won the game for Denver. I can't see Herm doing something like that.

NO..more like Oakland lines up for the kick and misses, but due to mass confusion on the sideline, the defense is called for too many men on the field, give Oakland 5 yds and they make the second kick. That's how Herm rolls!

HypnotizedMonkey · 09-17-2007, 05:35 PM

If KC makes the playoffs I will watch them lose on the road in the first round again... then I'm going to drill my technodrome up from the center of the earth and destroy Kaufmann Stadium and make Arrowhead watch, then destroy Arrowhead and have a final battle with Gun where the 50 yard line was.

Simplex3 · 09-17-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

I'd do what I always do when we finish 9-7 and lose in the first round....

What he said.

Simplex3 · 09-17-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i wish "getting to the playoffs" wasn't the highest achievement for this franchise...

Get out of my head!

Boon · 09-17-2007, 05:44 PM

I am waiting on the first win. "Getting in the playoffs" is the last thing on my mind.

Frazod · 09-17-2007, 05:46 PM

Herm isn't better than Vermeil. Herm IS VERMEIL. He just builds/destroys the team in the opposite direction.

But in the end, half a team is still half a team.

Hammock Parties · 09-17-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Herm isn't better than Vermeil. Herm IS VERMEIL. He just builds/destroys the team in the opposite direction.

But in the end, half a team is still half a team.

No. Herm can draft. That alone makes him better than DV.

Frazod · 09-17-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

No. Herm can draft. That alone makes him better than DV.

He also doesn't seem to develop weepy manlove attachments to reerun failures like McCleon. That's a plus, as well.

But he shouldn't have anything to do with planning/running an offense, EVER. Just like Dick shouldn't have anything to do with planning/running a defense, EVER.

penchief · 09-17-2007, 05:57 PM

I think the defense is coming into its own. I think they are going to be a force. I liked what I saw from the linebackers yesterday.

The offense will get better. Bowe is going to help a lot. Croyle will get his shot. We'll eventually develop our own identity when it comes to moving the ball. I think 8-8 is very attainable and I wouldn't be surprised by another 9-7.

Eleazar · 09-17-2007, 05:58 PM

Playoffs? Playoffs? Are you kidding me?

Eleazar · 09-17-2007, 05:59 PM

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09-17-2007, 05:26 PM	#16
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-438231	What is stupifying is that we made it last year by Huard playing better than expected. When something is better than expected you expect it to fall back toward its true average the following year. Yet all projections of the Chiefs having a good year hinged on Huard having the same kind of year that he had last year. That wasn't very realistic. Coupled with the neutering of the offense by the 1 Arrowhead Drive braintrust, this difference is enough to drive a 9-7 playoff team to a five win team, even with improvements at several other positions.
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09-17-2007, 05:46 PM	#25
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-536615	Herm isn't better than Vermeil. Herm IS VERMEIL. He just builds/destroys the team in the opposite direction. But in the end, half a team is still half a team.
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09-17-2007, 05:57 PM	#28
penchief MVP Join Date: Feb 2003 Casino cash: $6085286	I think the defense is coming into its own. I think they are going to be a force. I liked what I saw from the linebackers yesterday. The offense will get better. Bowe is going to help a lot. Croyle will get his shot. We'll eventually develop our own identity when it comes to moving the ball. I think 8-8 is very attainable and I wouldn't be surprised by another 9-7.
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