Huggins latest recruit and Doyel's take on the KSU mens bball coaching position.... - Page 7

arrowheadnation · 10:31 PM

Figured I might as well start a little fire on a boring night. Huggins' latest recruit, Tyree Evans, has been accused of statutory rape (he was charged along with a group of guys...a gang rape if you will) and battery of a child. Yes, I know, innocent until proven guilty, and he's probably going to get out of it, but the media and public opinion will still always label him as an "alleged rapist" (it's not right, but that's how it always pans out). That's the first story. The second story was CBS Sportsline columnist Gregg Doyel's list of the 10 worst men's coaching jobs in the nation where he refers to Manhattan, KS as "a suburb of Hades." I'm not gonna lie, Doyel has something against Manhattan and Huggins, and KSU fans hate it that he spews his sentiments in his columns every now and then. I guess you could call him the polar opposite of Kevin Keitzman, who spews his anti-KU sentiments on a daily basis over the radio waves.

Anywho, just wanting to hear some opinions (heh, I came to the right place for that).
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http://www.kansas.com/mld/eagle/spor...s/14605126.htm

KSU will take player if he's cleared
Tyree Evans, one of the top scorers in Virginia high school history, is facing a rape charge in Massachusetts.
BY JEFFREY MARTIN
The Wichita Eagle
As a senior at George Wythe High in Richmond, Va., Tyree Evans scored 884 points, a season total exceeded in the state by only Allen Iverson and Moses Malone.

He scorched Wythe's rival, L.C. Bird, for 51 points. He ripped off 34 second-half points in a state tournament semifinal loss, prompting several college coaches in attendance to shake their heads.

If all goes as Evans plans and he ends up playing for Bob Huggins at Kansas State next season, imagine the reaction then.

Evans, a 6-foot-3 guard, was indicted in September 2005 on charges of statutory rape and indecent assault and battery on a child stemming from an October 2004 incident while he was a postgraduate student at the Winchendon (Mass.) School.

Evans was one of five individuals originally charged in connection to the rape of a female classmate, according to the Worcester Telegram & Gazette.

He pleaded not guilty to the charges in March. On May 8, his lawyer filed a motion in Worcester Superior Court to dismiss the case. According to the office of Worcester District Attorney John J. Conte, Evans' next court appearance is scheduled for May 30. No trial date has been set.

Evans is confident the case will be thrown out.

If so, he says he'll join Huggins in Manhattan.

Evans originally planned on playing for Huggins at Cincinnati. But his grades were insufficient after graduating from Wythe in 2004, and he enrolled at Winchendon. Cincinnati wouldn't admit him in 2005 while charges were pending.

In the past year, while neither was involved in organized basketball, Evans said Huggins remained in contact.

"He's like a second dad to me," Evans said Monday. "He's been loyal to me, and I've been loyal to him. His word is his bond.... I'm interested. I'll be there in the fall."

The charges, if he's innocent, wouldn't be an issue for K-State, said Jim Epps, senior associate athletic director.

"Whatever he was charged with, if he was found innocent, I don't think we'd say, 'He was charged with a crime but found not guilty, so we're not going to recruit him,' " Epps said. "From our perspective, if he's exonerated, our message to Coach Huggins is to go ahead and recruit the kid."

But there is the issue of perception, whether this will be interpreted as another controversial move by a controversial coach.

As in, there Huggins goes again.

"If we were afraid of public criticism, we wouldn't have hired Bob Huggins," K-State athletic director Tim Weiser said. "I don't think we'd back away from giving a young man or woman a chance if we knew whatever they were involved with before wouldn't be an issue under our care at K-State."

Frank McMillan, Evans' former coach at Wythe, thinks Evans is as good as former Duke star J.J. Redick, who played his high school ball nearby.

"He's probably the best I've ever coached," McMillan said. "With the proper coaching, he'll be as good as anyone."

Mike Byrnes, his coach at Winchendon, believes Evans will make a lot of money in the pros.

"He does not back down from a soul," Byrnes said. "If he goes to K-State, he'll be on the Big 12 All-Rookie Team."

Evans? He compares himself to Chicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon -- but with a slight variation.

"I jump a little higher, and I'm definitely a lot faster," Evans said. "I run a 4.4 40."

Evans flirted with the notion of playing football in college. As a junior, he finished with more than 1,000 receiving yards and 14 touchdowns. Penn State was interested, and according to McMillan, Florida and Florida State inquired.

He is still intrigued by the possibility, insisting "there ain't no corner around that can check me one-on-one.

"But I just want to see how my freshman year goes."

He seems certain he'll be in Manhattan in September.

"It's going to be dismissed -- that's all I can tell you about that," Evans said. "And when this stuff is over, I'm going to be at K-State.

"I'm going to be playing for Coach Huggins at K-State."
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http://www.sportsline.com/collegebas.../story/9442923

10. Kansas State: If everything breaks right, Bob Huggins is going to win so big at Kansas State you'll wonder how the Wildcats ever got onto this list. But if everything breaks wrong -- if O.J. Mayo and Bill Walker go to Southern California or just turn pro; and if Michael Beasley and Herb Pope decide not to be traded to Kansas State like pieces of horse flesh -- Huggins will find out just how bad this job really is. When the NCAA ruled that schools can't use private planes to fly in recruits, it was a shattering blow in Manhattan, Kan., a suburb of Hades.

arrowheadnation · 05-21-2006, 09:26 PM

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Don't bother Kevin with proper speech. He's a KSU grad. They know the cattle don't care if you can't speak correctly.

I actually graduated from KSU a week ago. No cows for me though. I was a business major. I was also born and raised a Jayhawk fan, due to some unfortunate circumstances with a former significant other (dumb bitch), I ended up in Manhattan. I'm cool with KSU anytime they're not playing KU (believe me, it took a LONG time to bring myself to say that), but I just get tired of these delusional fans (ahem...Kevin) thinking that they've hired God's gift to basketball as their coach and that he's going to demolish anything and outrecruit anything in his path. He's a new coach in a much better league. Remember when Bob Knight was gonna come in and demolish the Big XII....Good God we're still reeling from that aren't we?

**Skip Towne** · 05-21-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Yes. I'm quite aware of that.

Unlike you, I'm not experiencing the early signs of dementia due to old age. I can actually remember to wipe my own ass, and to not flush the cat down the toliet.

I'm glad to see you are reduced to BS smack. I realize you are always right and everyone else is always wrong but were you aware that the best coach KSU ever had (Jack Hartman) was only able to break even against KU? And he didn't win any recruiting battles. He, like Bill Snyder, was able to win (against everybody except KU) with players the other schools overlooked because of one deficiency or another. Hartman did not allow the bounce pass. Bet you didn't know that. I was at Coffeyville College in 1962 when Jack was there. He did the same thing there with players such as Herm Callands who later starred at Tulsa as one of three of Tulsa's first black players. He started 5 blacks at Coffeyville in 1962 and it was unheard of at the time. Nope, Huggins hasn't recruited anybody of note to KSU yet. But don't let me burst your bubble of delusion. Just keep mouthing off and I'll keep correcting you. 171-89

**Skip Towne** · 05-21-2006, 09:46 PM

Oh, hey, Chi, I also got to take a car load of Coffeyville cheerleaders to Moberly, Mo. in my dad's new Lincoln in 1962. Their coach? Yep, Cotton Fitzsimmons. We won.

**ChiTown** · 05-21-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I'm glad to see you are reduced to BS smack. I realize you are always right and everyone else is always wrong but were you aware that the best coach KSU ever had (Jack Hartman) was only able to break even against KU? And he didn't win any recruiting battles. He, like Bill Snyder, was able to win (against everybody except KU) with players the other schools overlooked because of one deficiency or another. Hartman did not allow the bounce pass. Bet you didn't know that. I was at Coffeyville College in 1962 when Jack was there. He did the same thing there with players such as Herm Callands who later starred at Tulsa as one of three of Tulsa's first black players. He started 5 blacks at Coffeyville in 1962 and it was unheard of at the time. Nope, Huggins hasn't recruited anybody of note to KSU yet. But don't let me burst your bubble of delusion. Just keep mouthing off and I'll keep correcting you.

wtf are you talking about? BS smaque? Without BS smaque you would be reduced to silence. So please, spare me your load of crap, n00b (yes, you'll always be a n00b to me).

Tell me again, what deficiency did Mike Evans, Rolando Blackman, or Chuckie Williams have (just to name a few) that other coaches overlooked? Oh, and by the way, Hartman's record against KU was 22-19. So, I think he won a few against ku as well.

There is no debating who has the better Basketball Program. I've never so much as even intimated that, skip. But let's be honest, you (and all the rest of the KU fans) are getting nervous about what Huggins is going to do at KSU. Otherwise, we wouldn't so much as get one ounce of your precious time on any of these posts.

**Skip Towne** · 05-21-2006, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

wtf are you talking about? BS smaque? Without BS smaque you would be reduced to silence. So please, spare me your load of crap, n00b (yes, you'll always be a n00b to me).

Tell me again, what deficiency did Mike Evans, Rolando Blackman, or Chuckie Williams have (just to name a few) that other coaches overlooked? Oh, and by the way, Hartman's record against KU was 22-19. So, I think he won a few against ku as well.

There is no debating who has the better Basketball Program. I've never so much as even intimated that, skip. But let's be honest, you (and all the rest of the KU fans) are getting nervous about what Huggins is going to do at KSU. Otherwise, we wouldn't so much as get one ounce of your precious time on any of these posts.

I'm talking about how you ran out of material so you started on my age. Evans, Blackman and Williams were not heavily recruited nor was Ed Nealy. Nealy was even a very low round NBA pick yet lasted for years. Yeah, let's be honest here, it will be a joy to destroy Huggins just like we have every other coach you people have come up with. Huggins had some success using thugs that nobody else would take against mid major competition. BTW, Huggins SAT for 7 months with NO coaching offers until KSU sunk to his level. Reminds me of the beating UNLV took until they finally shitcanned Tarkanian. And NO, nobody else ever hired Tarkanian. Yeah, we're really worried about Huggins. I can't wait to beat his brains in. We had to listen to all of this same shit about Bobby Knight. We proceeded to beat him senseless. Do something and THEN talk about it. 171-89

ChiefsFanatic · 05-21-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

b. Renegades like Huggins don't get job offers like UCLA, Indiana, Kentucky, Duke, etc.

That is really funny. You think that those jobs are a step up from KSU? HA!

Those schools are on a different floor, much less a different step. Iowa State is a step up from KSU. [Yes, as a KSU fan, you are allowed to comeback with 'So is Bucknell/Bradley' (because they are)]

ChiefsFanatic · 05-21-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I'm talking about how you ran out of material so you started on my age. Evans, Blackman and Williams were not heavily recruited nor was Ed Nealy. Nealy was even a very low round NBA pick yet lasted for years. Yeah, let's be honest here, it will be a joy to destroy Huggins just like we have every other coach you people have come up with. Huggins had some success using thugs that nobody else would take against mid major competition. BTW, Huggins SAT for 7 months with NO coaching offers until KSU sunk to his level. Reminds me of the beating UNLV took until they finally shitcanned Tarkanian. And NO, nobody else ever hired Tarkanian. Yeah, we're really worried about Huggins. I can't wait to beat his brains in. We had to listen to all of this same shit about Bobby Knight. We proceeded to beat him senseless. Do something and THEN talk about it. 171-89

Maybe you should check your facts. Tarkanian coached Fresno State for 7 years, from 1995-2002, leading them to six straight 20 win seasons. After UNLV. And I doubt he did it for free.

**ChiTown** · 05-22-2006, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I'm talking about how you ran out of material so you started on my age. Evans, Blackman and Williams were not heavily recruited nor was Ed Nealy. Nealy was even a very low round NBA pick yet lasted for years. Yeah, let's be honest here, it will be a joy to destroy Huggins just like we have every other coach you people have come up with. Huggins had some success using thugs that nobody else would take against mid major competition. BTW, Huggins SAT for 7 months with NO coaching offers until KSU sunk to his level. Reminds me of the beating UNLV took until they finally shitcanned Tarkanian. And NO, nobody else ever hired Tarkanian. Yeah, we're really worried about Huggins. I can't wait to beat his brains in. We had to listen to all of this same shit about Bobby Knight. We proceeded to beat him senseless. Do something and THEN talk about it. 171-89

Do something, and then talk about it? Again, wtf are talking about, n00b? I don't play college ball. My team does, and I cheer for them, but that's as far as it goes. Also, Huggins sat for 7 months because what job openings were available in August of 2005?

skip, again, you want to discount the value of Huggins, comparing him to the recycled Tark and Knight. Not bad comparison's, as both coaches went on to win again at their respective schools. However, the big difference is that Huggins is 52 yrs old. He's got a lot of productive years in front of him, and he obviously can still recruit. Huggins w/l pct speaks for itself. He won in Cincy, and he'll win in Manhattan. I'm not sure what else there is to talk about.

ROYC75 · 05-22-2006, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

It'll be cool to have an in-state rivalry again.

No shit, the Kittens are showing a little spunk right now!

**Skip Towne** · 05-22-2006, 09:48 AM

For the police video of Huggin's arrest go to: http://www.enquirer.com/midday/06/06...y_huggins.html

WilliamTheIrish · 05-22-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Reminds me of the beating UNLV took until they finally shitcanned Tarkanian. And NO, nobody else ever hired Tarkanian.

Tarkanian never coached again?

I think Chi had every reason to bag on your age. You dumbass Okie.

WilliamTheIrish · 05-22-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aarowheadnation

Oh Kevin, first off, it's "your." Second, Cinci is a little bit more of a destination job than KSU. Plus, Huggins is from that area of the U.S. I think the only way you keep him in Manhattan is if he flounders for a few years (has mediocre teams) or if you lock him in your basement during the offseason.....otherwise he'll bolt.

Damn. That's two in this thread.

Thanks for catching that Tom Light.

arrowheadnation · 05-22-2006, 08:19 PM

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Thanks for catching that Tom Light.

Who's that?

05-18-2006, 10:20 PM
arrowheadnation MONTANA #19 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $3727357	Huggins latest recruit and Doyel's take on the KSU mens bball coaching position.... Figured I might as well start a little fire on a boring night. Huggins' latest recruit, Tyree Evans, has been accused of statutory rape (he was charged along with a group of guys...a gang rape if you will) and battery of a child. Yes, I know, innocent until proven guilty, and he's probably going to get out of it, but the media and public opinion will still always label him as an "alleged rapist" (it's not right, but that's how it always pans out). That's the first story. The second story was CBS Sportsline columnist Gregg Doyel's list of the 10 worst men's coaching jobs in the nation where he refers to Manhattan, KS as "a suburb of Hades." I'm not gonna lie, Doyel has something against Manhattan and Huggins, and KSU fans hate it that he spews his sentiments in his columns every now and then. I guess you could call him the polar opposite of Kevin Keitzman, who spews his anti-KU sentiments on a daily basis over the radio waves. Anywho, just wanting to hear some opinions (heh, I came to the right place for that). __________________________________________________________________________ http://www.kansas.com/mld/eagle/spor...s/14605126.htm KSU will take player if he's cleared Tyree Evans, one of the top scorers in Virginia high school history, is facing a rape charge in Massachusetts. BY JEFFREY MARTIN The Wichita Eagle As a senior at George Wythe High in Richmond, Va., Tyree Evans scored 884 points, a season total exceeded in the state by only Allen Iverson and Moses Malone. He scorched Wythe's rival, L.C. Bird, for 51 points. He ripped off 34 second-half points in a state tournament semifinal loss, prompting several college coaches in attendance to shake their heads. If all goes as Evans plans and he ends up playing for Bob Huggins at Kansas State next season, imagine the reaction then. Evans, a 6-foot-3 guard, was indicted in September 2005 on charges of statutory rape and indecent assault and battery on a child stemming from an October 2004 incident while he was a postgraduate student at the Winchendon (Mass.) School. Evans was one of five individuals originally charged in connection to the rape of a female classmate, according to the Worcester Telegram & Gazette. He pleaded not guilty to the charges in March. On May 8, his lawyer filed a motion in Worcester Superior Court to dismiss the case. According to the office of Worcester District Attorney John J. Conte, Evans' next court appearance is scheduled for May 30. No trial date has been set. Evans is confident the case will be thrown out. If so, he says he'll join Huggins in Manhattan. Evans originally planned on playing for Huggins at Cincinnati. But his grades were insufficient after graduating from Wythe in 2004, and he enrolled at Winchendon. Cincinnati wouldn't admit him in 2005 while charges were pending. In the past year, while neither was involved in organized basketball, Evans said Huggins remained in contact. "He's like a second dad to me," Evans said Monday. "He's been loyal to me, and I've been loyal to him. His word is his bond.... I'm interested. I'll be there in the fall." The charges, if he's innocent, wouldn't be an issue for K-State, said Jim Epps, senior associate athletic director. "Whatever he was charged with, if he was found innocent, I don't think we'd say, 'He was charged with a crime but found not guilty, so we're not going to recruit him,' " Epps said. "From our perspective, if he's exonerated, our message to Coach Huggins is to go ahead and recruit the kid." But there is the issue of perception, whether this will be interpreted as another controversial move by a controversial coach. As in, there Huggins goes again. "If we were afraid of public criticism, we wouldn't have hired Bob Huggins," K-State athletic director Tim Weiser said. "I don't think we'd back away from giving a young man or woman a chance if we knew whatever they were involved with before wouldn't be an issue under our care at K-State." Frank McMillan, Evans' former coach at Wythe, thinks Evans is as good as former Duke star J.J. Redick, who played his high school ball nearby. "He's probably the best I've ever coached," McMillan said. "With the proper coaching, he'll be as good as anyone." Mike Byrnes, his coach at Winchendon, believes Evans will make a lot of money in the pros. "He does not back down from a soul," Byrnes said. "If he goes to K-State, he'll be on the Big 12 All-Rookie Team." Evans? He compares himself to Chicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon -- but with a slight variation. "I jump a little higher, and I'm definitely a lot faster," Evans said. "I run a 4.4 40." Evans flirted with the notion of playing football in college. As a junior, he finished with more than 1,000 receiving yards and 14 touchdowns. Penn State was interested, and according to McMillan, Florida and Florida State inquired. He is still intrigued by the possibility, insisting "there ain't no corner around that can check me one-on-one. "But I just want to see how my freshman year goes." He seems certain he'll be in Manhattan in September. "It's going to be dismissed -- that's all I can tell you about that," Evans said. "And when this stuff is over, I'm going to be at K-State. "I'm going to be playing for Coach Huggins at K-State." _________________________________________________________________________________ http://www.sportsline.com/collegebas.../story/9442923 10. Kansas State: If everything breaks right, Bob Huggins is going to win so big at Kansas State you'll wonder how the Wildcats ever got onto this list. But if everything breaks wrong -- if O.J. Mayo and Bill Walker go to Southern California or just turn pro; and if Michael Beasley and Herb Pope decide not to be traded to Kansas State like pieces of horse flesh -- Huggins will find out just how bad this job really is. When the NCAA ruled that schools can't use private planes to fly in recruits, it was a shattering blow in Manhattan, Kan., a suburb of Hades. Last edited by arrowheadnation; 05-18-2006 at 10:31 PM..
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