Huggins latest recruit and Doyel's take on the KSU mens bball coaching position.... - Page 6

arrowheadnation · 10:31 PM

Figured I might as well start a little fire on a boring night. Huggins' latest recruit, Tyree Evans, has been accused of statutory rape (he was charged along with a group of guys...a gang rape if you will) and battery of a child. Yes, I know, innocent until proven guilty, and he's probably going to get out of it, but the media and public opinion will still always label him as an "alleged rapist" (it's not right, but that's how it always pans out). That's the first story. The second story was CBS Sportsline columnist Gregg Doyel's list of the 10 worst men's coaching jobs in the nation where he refers to Manhattan, KS as "a suburb of Hades." I'm not gonna lie, Doyel has something against Manhattan and Huggins, and KSU fans hate it that he spews his sentiments in his columns every now and then. I guess you could call him the polar opposite of Kevin Keitzman, who spews his anti-KU sentiments on a daily basis over the radio waves.

Anywho, just wanting to hear some opinions (heh, I came to the right place for that).
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http://www.kansas.com/mld/eagle/spor...s/14605126.htm

KSU will take player if he's cleared
Tyree Evans, one of the top scorers in Virginia high school history, is facing a rape charge in Massachusetts.
BY JEFFREY MARTIN
The Wichita Eagle
As a senior at George Wythe High in Richmond, Va., Tyree Evans scored 884 points, a season total exceeded in the state by only Allen Iverson and Moses Malone.

He scorched Wythe's rival, L.C. Bird, for 51 points. He ripped off 34 second-half points in a state tournament semifinal loss, prompting several college coaches in attendance to shake their heads.

If all goes as Evans plans and he ends up playing for Bob Huggins at Kansas State next season, imagine the reaction then.

Evans, a 6-foot-3 guard, was indicted in September 2005 on charges of statutory rape and indecent assault and battery on a child stemming from an October 2004 incident while he was a postgraduate student at the Winchendon (Mass.) School.

Evans was one of five individuals originally charged in connection to the rape of a female classmate, according to the Worcester Telegram & Gazette.

He pleaded not guilty to the charges in March. On May 8, his lawyer filed a motion in Worcester Superior Court to dismiss the case. According to the office of Worcester District Attorney John J. Conte, Evans' next court appearance is scheduled for May 30. No trial date has been set.

Evans is confident the case will be thrown out.

If so, he says he'll join Huggins in Manhattan.

Evans originally planned on playing for Huggins at Cincinnati. But his grades were insufficient after graduating from Wythe in 2004, and he enrolled at Winchendon. Cincinnati wouldn't admit him in 2005 while charges were pending.

In the past year, while neither was involved in organized basketball, Evans said Huggins remained in contact.

"He's like a second dad to me," Evans said Monday. "He's been loyal to me, and I've been loyal to him. His word is his bond.... I'm interested. I'll be there in the fall."

The charges, if he's innocent, wouldn't be an issue for K-State, said Jim Epps, senior associate athletic director.

"Whatever he was charged with, if he was found innocent, I don't think we'd say, 'He was charged with a crime but found not guilty, so we're not going to recruit him,' " Epps said. "From our perspective, if he's exonerated, our message to Coach Huggins is to go ahead and recruit the kid."

But there is the issue of perception, whether this will be interpreted as another controversial move by a controversial coach.

As in, there Huggins goes again.

"If we were afraid of public criticism, we wouldn't have hired Bob Huggins," K-State athletic director Tim Weiser said. "I don't think we'd back away from giving a young man or woman a chance if we knew whatever they were involved with before wouldn't be an issue under our care at K-State."

Frank McMillan, Evans' former coach at Wythe, thinks Evans is as good as former Duke star J.J. Redick, who played his high school ball nearby.

"He's probably the best I've ever coached," McMillan said. "With the proper coaching, he'll be as good as anyone."

Mike Byrnes, his coach at Winchendon, believes Evans will make a lot of money in the pros.

"He does not back down from a soul," Byrnes said. "If he goes to K-State, he'll be on the Big 12 All-Rookie Team."

Evans? He compares himself to Chicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon -- but with a slight variation.

"I jump a little higher, and I'm definitely a lot faster," Evans said. "I run a 4.4 40."

Evans flirted with the notion of playing football in college. As a junior, he finished with more than 1,000 receiving yards and 14 touchdowns. Penn State was interested, and according to McMillan, Florida and Florida State inquired.

He is still intrigued by the possibility, insisting "there ain't no corner around that can check me one-on-one.

"But I just want to see how my freshman year goes."

He seems certain he'll be in Manhattan in September.

"It's going to be dismissed -- that's all I can tell you about that," Evans said. "And when this stuff is over, I'm going to be at K-State.

"I'm going to be playing for Coach Huggins at K-State."
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http://www.sportsline.com/collegebas.../story/9442923

10. Kansas State: If everything breaks right, Bob Huggins is going to win so big at Kansas State you'll wonder how the Wildcats ever got onto this list. But if everything breaks wrong -- if O.J. Mayo and Bill Walker go to Southern California or just turn pro; and if Michael Beasley and Herb Pope decide not to be traded to Kansas State like pieces of horse flesh -- Huggins will find out just how bad this job really is. When the NCAA ruled that schools can't use private planes to fly in recruits, it was a shattering blow in Manhattan, Kan., a suburb of Hades.

arrowheadnation · 05-21-2006, 02:04 PM

^^Exactly. You can't tell me that if the Kentucky job or something like that became open that he wouldn't leave in a heartbeat.

KevB · 05-21-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by aarowheadnation

^^Exactly. You can't tell me that if the Kentucky job or something like that became open that he wouldn't leave in a heartbeat.

Frankly, if the Kentucky job opened up, Huggins wouldn't be at the top of the list due to his history. I'm confident that Hugs will be in Manhattan for some time, and it's really a good fit for both.

WilliamTheIrish · 05-21-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aarowheadnation

^^Exactly. You can't tell me that if the Kentucky job or something like that became open that he wouldn't leave in a heartbeat.

Exactly. Wrong.

You act as though Huggins has made a career out of being a carpetbagger like.... oh... Larry Brown. Or Bill Self.

Huggs turned down big jobs and bigger money to stay at Cinci.

But I can understand you're 'non concern.'

ArrowheadHawk · 05-21-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rxrider

F*** YOU SAUL

Have you ever lived in Junction City??? I didn't think so.

So SHUT THE HELL UP!

I take that as an insult. There is nothing wrong with JC. I have lived here for 40+ years. JC is about to double in size in the next 3-5 years and we'll see who is the Suburb of who.

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i lived in junction city for 10 monthes while i was pulling gate guard duty at Fort Riley. I personally hated it. I'm married with 2 kids. JC may be great for single guys 18-25 but other than that it is a shithole. You can't go a block without seeing either a strip club, a check cashing joint, or a car dealership.

Kerberos · 05-21-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

i lived in junction city for 10 monthes while i was pulling gate guard duty at Fort Riley. I personally hated it. I'm married with 2 kids. JC may be great for single guys 18-25 but other than that it is a shithole. You can't go a block without seeing either a strip club, a check cashing joint, or a car dealership.

How long ago did you live here?? If its been more than 5 years then you need to SHUT THE HELL UP TOO.

I am married with a child and allot has changed in JC since I was a young.

They are actually trying to clean it up and build new housing. Everything will be different for the big red one this time around.

You have an opinion to voice. Saul on the other hand does NOT.

I would be surprised if he ever set foot in this town ONCE.

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**Skip Towne** · 05-21-2006, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

i lived in junction city for 10 monthes while i was pulling gate guard duty at Fort Riley. I personally hated it. I'm married with 2 kids. JC may be great for single guys 18-25 but other than that it is a shithole. You can't go a block without seeing either a strip club, a check cashing joint, or a car dealership.

If it had dirt streets it would look like Korea.

ArrowheadHawk · 05-21-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rxrider

How long ago did you live here?? If its been more than 5 years then you need to SHUT THE HELL UP TOO.

I am married with a child and allot has changed in JC since I was a young.

They are actually trying to clean it up and build new housing. Everything will be different for the big red one this time around.

You have an opinion to voice. Saul on the other hand does NOT.

I would be surprised if he ever set foot in this town ONCE.

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i lived there september '02 - july '03

**ChiTown** · 05-21-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

I agree that KSU used to be a good basketball school, but if you think Huggins wouldn't bolt to a higher profile school, then you just don't know as much as you think you know.

KSU is not one of the schools that coaches consider ending their career at; it is not a destination school for college basketball coaches. That is a fact.

Like I've told many KU fans on here before. What you think you may know, and what you think I know is the difference between you being wrong and me being right.

I bat pretty well on what I know about things related to KSU. And I'm telling you:

a. Huggins will be at KSU for a good long while - 10 years or so.

b. Renegades like Huggins don't get job offers like UCLA, Indiana, Kentucky, Duke, etc.

c. HCBS could have had just about any job that came open in the mid 90's. He turned down every single one of them. Same for Jack Hartman in the late 70's. Thing is, it's the perfect job for many coaches, and I think Huggins is just beginning to realize why it fits him so well.

arrowheadnation · 05-21-2006, 07:29 PM

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Exactly. Wrong.

You act as though Huggins has made a career out of being a carpetbagger like.... oh... Larry Brown. Or Bill Self.

Huggs turned down big jobs and bigger money to stay at Cinci.

But I can understand you're 'non concern.'

Oh Kevin, first off, it's "your." Second, Cinci is a little bit more of a destination job than KSU. Plus, Huggins is from that area of the U.S. I think the only way you keep him in Manhattan is if he flounders for a few years (has mediocre teams) or if you lock him in your basement during the offseason.....otherwise he'll bolt.

Kerberos · 05-21-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

i lived there september '02 - july '03

Then perhaps you remember that the cleaned up Grant Ave by getting rid of all the crappy trailer parks?

They cleaned up just about ALL the crappy trailer parks and started condemming OLD delapidated houses and trailers that are/were unfit for living. The Dept of Defense was pretty clear to the Chamber of Commerce and the big wheels of JC to get thier act together this time around if they want keep the Big Red One when it get restationed here. The town and the people that run it have responded with allot more industry and over 8000 new living units, houses and apt buildings, and like I mentioned they are building more and more everyday and the longterm goal is for Junction City to DOUBLE in size. I know the School District here is looking to ADD 800 to 1,300 new students by 2008/09 school year. 500 of those by next year alone 06/07 school year.

I guess if you could drive by now you would see a WHOLE different town compared to what you saw in 02/03.

We got resteraunts opening all over and more on the way in. Jim Clark moved most of his business out on I70. City Cycle Sales moved out on I70 into a state of the art Harley Davidson showroom and maintenance center.

I know it don't mean jack shit to you but as a life long resident I resent anyone talking shit without seeing first hand what is going on right now.

BTW I see you are from SouthWest Kansas. I went to Dodge City Commuinty College 20+ years ago and I was pretty UNIMPRESSED with the whole area. (Dodge City, Great Bend, Garden City, Syracuse and even Hays) Talk about being in HELL.

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**Skip Towne** · 05-21-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aarowheadnation

Oh Kevin, first off, it's "your."

Don't bother Kevin with proper speech. He's a KSU grad. They know the cattle don't care if you can't speak correctly.

**Skip Towne** · 05-21-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

He's coaching in the B12. He is having NO problems recruiting to Manhattan.

Hey, Chi, you DO realize you just lost a recruiting battle to Mizzou don't you? Mizzou.............Hahahahahaha 171-89

**ChiTown** · 05-21-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Hey, Chi, you DO realize you just lost a recruiting battle to Mizzou don't you? Mizzou.............Hahahahahaha 171-89

Yes. I'm quite aware of that.

Unlike you, I'm not experiencing the early signs of dementia due to old age. I can actually remember to wipe my own ass, and to not flush the cat down the toliet.

arrowheadnation · 05-21-2006, 09:16 PM

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Yes. I'm quite aware of that.

Unlike you, I'm not experiencing the early signs of dementia due to old age. I can actually remember to wipe my own ass, and to not flush the cat down the toliet.

Would that be a "Power Cat" by any chance?

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Carry on though. I'm enjoying this.

**Mr. Kotter** · 05-21-2006, 09:25 PM

It'll be cool to have an in-state rivalry again.

05-18-2006, 10:20 PM
arrowheadnation MONTANA #19 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $3727357	Huggins latest recruit and Doyel's take on the KSU mens bball coaching position.... Figured I might as well start a little fire on a boring night. Huggins' latest recruit, Tyree Evans, has been accused of statutory rape (he was charged along with a group of guys...a gang rape if you will) and battery of a child. Yes, I know, innocent until proven guilty, and he's probably going to get out of it, but the media and public opinion will still always label him as an "alleged rapist" (it's not right, but that's how it always pans out). That's the first story. The second story was CBS Sportsline columnist Gregg Doyel's list of the 10 worst men's coaching jobs in the nation where he refers to Manhattan, KS as "a suburb of Hades." I'm not gonna lie, Doyel has something against Manhattan and Huggins, and KSU fans hate it that he spews his sentiments in his columns every now and then. I guess you could call him the polar opposite of Kevin Keitzman, who spews his anti-KU sentiments on a daily basis over the radio waves. Anywho, just wanting to hear some opinions (heh, I came to the right place for that). __________________________________________________________________________ http://www.kansas.com/mld/eagle/spor...s/14605126.htm KSU will take player if he's cleared Tyree Evans, one of the top scorers in Virginia high school history, is facing a rape charge in Massachusetts. BY JEFFREY MARTIN The Wichita Eagle As a senior at George Wythe High in Richmond, Va., Tyree Evans scored 884 points, a season total exceeded in the state by only Allen Iverson and Moses Malone. He scorched Wythe's rival, L.C. Bird, for 51 points. He ripped off 34 second-half points in a state tournament semifinal loss, prompting several college coaches in attendance to shake their heads. If all goes as Evans plans and he ends up playing for Bob Huggins at Kansas State next season, imagine the reaction then. Evans, a 6-foot-3 guard, was indicted in September 2005 on charges of statutory rape and indecent assault and battery on a child stemming from an October 2004 incident while he was a postgraduate student at the Winchendon (Mass.) School. Evans was one of five individuals originally charged in connection to the rape of a female classmate, according to the Worcester Telegram & Gazette. He pleaded not guilty to the charges in March. On May 8, his lawyer filed a motion in Worcester Superior Court to dismiss the case. According to the office of Worcester District Attorney John J. Conte, Evans' next court appearance is scheduled for May 30. No trial date has been set. Evans is confident the case will be thrown out. If so, he says he'll join Huggins in Manhattan. Evans originally planned on playing for Huggins at Cincinnati. But his grades were insufficient after graduating from Wythe in 2004, and he enrolled at Winchendon. Cincinnati wouldn't admit him in 2005 while charges were pending. In the past year, while neither was involved in organized basketball, Evans said Huggins remained in contact. "He's like a second dad to me," Evans said Monday. "He's been loyal to me, and I've been loyal to him. His word is his bond.... I'm interested. I'll be there in the fall." The charges, if he's innocent, wouldn't be an issue for K-State, said Jim Epps, senior associate athletic director. "Whatever he was charged with, if he was found innocent, I don't think we'd say, 'He was charged with a crime but found not guilty, so we're not going to recruit him,' " Epps said. "From our perspective, if he's exonerated, our message to Coach Huggins is to go ahead and recruit the kid." But there is the issue of perception, whether this will be interpreted as another controversial move by a controversial coach. As in, there Huggins goes again. "If we were afraid of public criticism, we wouldn't have hired Bob Huggins," K-State athletic director Tim Weiser said. "I don't think we'd back away from giving a young man or woman a chance if we knew whatever they were involved with before wouldn't be an issue under our care at K-State." Frank McMillan, Evans' former coach at Wythe, thinks Evans is as good as former Duke star J.J. Redick, who played his high school ball nearby. "He's probably the best I've ever coached," McMillan said. "With the proper coaching, he'll be as good as anyone." Mike Byrnes, his coach at Winchendon, believes Evans will make a lot of money in the pros. "He does not back down from a soul," Byrnes said. "If he goes to K-State, he'll be on the Big 12 All-Rookie Team." Evans? He compares himself to Chicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon -- but with a slight variation. "I jump a little higher, and I'm definitely a lot faster," Evans said. "I run a 4.4 40." Evans flirted with the notion of playing football in college. As a junior, he finished with more than 1,000 receiving yards and 14 touchdowns. Penn State was interested, and according to McMillan, Florida and Florida State inquired. He is still intrigued by the possibility, insisting "there ain't no corner around that can check me one-on-one. "But I just want to see how my freshman year goes." He seems certain he'll be in Manhattan in September. "It's going to be dismissed -- that's all I can tell you about that," Evans said. "And when this stuff is over, I'm going to be at K-State. "I'm going to be playing for Coach Huggins at K-State." _________________________________________________________________________________ http://www.sportsline.com/collegebas.../story/9442923 10. Kansas State: If everything breaks right, Bob Huggins is going to win so big at Kansas State you'll wonder how the Wildcats ever got onto this list. But if everything breaks wrong -- if O.J. Mayo and Bill Walker go to Southern California or just turn pro; and if Michael Beasley and Herb Pope decide not to be traded to Kansas State like pieces of horse flesh -- Huggins will find out just how bad this job really is. When the NCAA ruled that schools can't use private planes to fly in recruits, it was a shattering blow in Manhattan, Kan., a suburb of Hades. Last edited by arrowheadnation; 05-18-2006 at 10:31 PM..
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arrowheadnation MONTANA #19 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $3727357	^^Exactly. You can't tell me that if the Kentucky job or something like that became open that he wouldn't leave in a heartbeat. __________________ Things I need to happen in order to die happy.... KU wins a National Championship....Check! The Royals win a World Series....Check! The Chiefs win a Super Bowl....FINALLY!!!
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