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Old 12-29-2005, 11:59 AM  
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Carl Peterson proposing playoff expansion...
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Chiefs president wants more playoff teams

By Skip Wood and Jarrett Bell, USA TODAY

Ten wins. In the NFL, to accomplish that means almost certain inclusion into the playoffs. Not this season. And heading into this weekend's final regular-season games, six of the league's 32 teams face the prospect of finishing 10-6 and not qualifying for the postseason. Not only that, but as many as three teams could wind up 10-6 and on the wrong side of the fence.

That's why Kansas City Chiefs president Carl Peterson, long a supporter of expanding the playoff field from 12 to 14 teams, is miffed — and not just because his team is among those possibly left idle despite double-digit wins.

"I'm going to propose ... an expansion of the number of playoff teams," Peterson said Wednesday. "I think it shorts the fans, the franchises and the cities to have teams with successful seasons but still not qualify for the playoffs."

Peterson, who failed in his bid for playoff expansion at last spring's owners meetings in Hawaii, believes his argument will be strengthened at this spring's meetings because several teams with nine or 10 wins are on the brink of elimination or are already out, such as San Diego (9-6).

Dallas (9-6), Pittsburgh (10-5), Tampa Bay (10-5) and Carolina (10-5) also face elimination.

Since the playoff field expanded to 12 teams in 1990, three teams have missed the postseason with 10 wins: the 1991 San Francisco 49ers and Philadelphia Eagles and the 2003 Miami Dolphins.

"It's a great playoff system," Peterson said, "but I don't like it when teams can win 10 games and not make the playoffs. I don't want us to become the NBA, with 50% of the teams in the playoffs, but we should do something. This league is just so competitive."

Of the NBA's 30 teams, 16 make the playoffs.

An NFL spokesman said the league has no comment as such decisions are entirely up to the owners.

"We'd certainly be interested in televising the games if the NFL expanded," says Josh Krulewitz, spokesman for ABC/ESPN. ABC is televising Super Bowl XL from Detroit.

NBC declined to comment.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...xpansion_x.htm
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:01 PM   #46
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It's Carl's type of thinking that is the reason why there is no NCAA Div 1 playoff. Coaches and administrators know that fans will view the year as a failure if their college doesn't make the 16-team or whatever playoff....so they are opposed to one.

Maybe Carl should propose a 2nd-tiered bowl system. Maybe we could have a rematch with Dallas in the not quite good enough bowl.
no, that would be Atlanta vs San Diego
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:13 PM   #47
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Hmmm...and how could we expand the playoffs WITHOUT 50% of the teams making it. Carl's an idiot.
Uh......14 out of 32 = 43.75%.

I don't know if it would be a good thing or a bad thing. However, I think with 4 divisions, it sucks when one division has so many good teams. For instance, it is possible that the Chiefs and Patriots could finish with the same record. Even though the Chiefs beat the Pats, the Pats get in because their division is weak and the AFC West is strong. I was complaining about this fact ever since that Pats game.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:16 PM   #48
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:20 PM   #49
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Uh......14 out of 32 = 43.75%.

I don't know if it would be a good thing or a bad thing. However, I think with 4 divisions, it sucks when one division has so many good teams. For instance, it is possible that the Chiefs and Patriots could finish with the same record. Even though the Chiefs beat the Pats, the Pats get in because their division is weak and the AFC West is strong. I was complaining about this fact ever since that Pats game.
Strong/weak conferences/divisions change over time. If you are good enough to win the SB, it doesn't really matter what division you are from.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:22 PM   #50
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What a stupid idea.

No #6 seed has ever made the SB, so now we want to expand it to seven seeds? This makes the league less competive, not more.
Are you sure about that? Didn't the Raiders do that back in the early 80s?
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:23 PM   #51
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Uh......14 out of 32 = 43.75%.

I don't know if it would be a good thing or a bad thing. However, I think with 4 divisions, it sucks when one division has so many good teams. For instance, it is possible that the Chiefs and Patriots could finish with the same record. Even though the Chiefs beat the Pats, the Pats get in because their division is weak and the AFC West is strong. I was complaining about this fact ever since that Pats game.
Yeah, I thought about 7 in each conference. Seems like an awkward number, but I guess you could leave it the way it is now except only the #1 seed gets a bye. But at 8 teams in each conference, you've hit 50% and eliminated the reward for finishing 1 or 2.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:24 PM   #52
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Strong/weak conferences/divisions change over time. If you are good enough to win the SB, it doesn't really matter what division you are from.

Only 1 team is strong enough to win the SB each year. So, by your logic, there should only be 1 team from each conference and they should just bypass the playoffs and just go straight to the championship game.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:28 PM   #53
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:34 PM   #54
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how exactly would 7 teams from each conference play out in a playoff setting? 6 makes sense, 8 makes sense... i cant wrap my brain around how 7 would work effectively.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:01 PM   #55
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how exactly would 7 teams from each conference play out in a playoff setting? 6 makes sense, 8 makes sense... i cant wrap my brain around how 7 would work effectively.
Only one team from each conference gets a bye week? That would work out wouldn't it? Three playoff games the 1st week of the playoffs leaving three teams to move on to round two where the team with the bye is aleady waiting.


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Old 12-29-2005, 05:24 PM   #56
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I haven't read through this entire thread, but here's one solution that makes sense, but most wouldn't like.


Leave the league aligned the way it is now, but don't schedule 2 games with each division opponent. 1 each, alternating home/away each year.

That could help to level the playing field without anything dramatic being done. It wouldn't always make a difference, but it wouldn't hurt, either.

Oh, and no bye weeks for anyone, even if it means adding one playoff team to even things out. Homefield advantage is enough of an....advantage.
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Are you sure about that? Didn't the Raiders do that back in the early 80s?
Yep, I'm sure. I don't post BS. Here are all the Wildcard teams that have ever made the Superbowl (not sure why the '69 Chiefs were not considered a WC, they didn't win the division). No team rom the 6th seed has ever made a SB appearance and none of teams that made it had a record worse than 11-5. A 10-6 seventh seed is not going to win 3 road games against playoff teams to win a trip to the SB. And Carl and Lamar know it better than I do.

2000 – Baltimore Ravens* 5 seed 12-4
1999 – Tennessee Titans 4 seed 13-3
1997 – Denver Broncos* 4 seed 12-4
1992 – Buffalo Bills 4 seed 11-5
1985 – New England Patriots 5 seed 11-5
1980 – Oakland Raiders* 4 seed 11-5
1975 – Dallas Cowboys 4 seed 12-4

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Old 12-29-2005, 09:46 PM   #59
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Yep, I'm sure. I don't post BS. Here are all the Wildcard teams that have ever made the Superbowl (not sure why the '69 Chiefs were not considered a WC, they didn't win the division).
Yeah, I had a "Moops" moment playing Trivial Pursuit Sports Edition a few years back when the question was "Who was the 1st wildcard team to win a Super Bowl" and I said the '69 Chiefs, and the freaking answer was 1980 Raiders.
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