According to Gun/Gretz Kawika Mitchell

[philfree]

Will be our MLB and there are no real competition to beat him out for the spot. Not even the Great Rich Scanlon! I was never down on Mitchell like a lot of people have been and felt like if he'd stay healthy he'd come around. So far this seems to be the case.

So what say the Planet about Mitchell and his apparent progress?

PhilFree

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chop

I find it hard to believe that based upon a few OTA's, without pads, they think Kawika has improved that much. It will be nice if true but I'll only believe it after I see it.

I think you can get a read on whether he is stating to get better feel for the game.

They won't know if he has started to figured out the "knee bend" part until they put on pads.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by TRR

Beisel played MLB during the KC Vs Vikes scrimmage in TC last season. I watched him with my own two eyes. I even talked to him about it at the Mall of America...

I was'nt there and I don't doubt you one bit but I'll still submit that he was working at LLB for the most part. I would have like to kept him but such is the NFL.

PhilFree

[TRR]

Originally Posted by philfree

I was'nt there and I don't doubt you one bit but I'll still submit that he was working at LLB for the most part. I would have like to kept him but such is the NFL.

PhilFree

He did spend most of Mini/Training Camp at LOLB. You are absolutely correct.

[KCJake]

From what i've seen, Mitchell is soft as shit. Probably looks real good at practice running around in shorts.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by TRR

And that killed us last season because the coaching staff counted on Maz to come back, and he didn't. With Mitchell getting hurt, Beisel was forced to play MLB.

To be honest, Beisel looked better at MLB in TC than Mitchell did.

Agreed.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by chop

I find it hard to believe that based upon a few OTA's, without pads, they think Kawika has improved that much. It will be nice if true but I'll only believe it after I see it.

i think speed players like kawika mitchell,Derrick Johnson etc always look better early.

no tackling,no pads etc plays to their strengths


guys like Maz and prolly Bell look better when things get dirty

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by TRR

We will have to wait and see. DV says a lot of shit he doesn't mean.

Yes. DV has been a wild ride, in a way, I am kind of glad it is going to be over this year. Hopefully he goes out taking us all the way.

[KC Jones]

Until he proves otherwise, Mitchell still sucks. Biesel was a better LB and that's not saying a lot.



He's just another high draft pick whose being given every opportunity to prove he can't play at this level. He's done a pretty damn good job of it so far.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by philfree

Will be our MLB and there are no real competition to beat him out for the spot. Not even the Great Rich Scanlon! I was never down on Mitchell like a lot of people have been and felt like if he'd stay healthy he'd come around. So far this seems to be the case.

So what say the Planet about Mitchell and his apparent progress?

PhilFree

To be fair here, Mitchell is the leading canidate for MLB, I have stated this over and over many times. Mitchell does have 16 - 20 games under his belt the last 2 years. By playing in Gun's scheme last year, he is/should be farther advanced to understand it.

As good as Rich did in NFLE, this is a step above and it will be a learning experence for him to step in. If Rich of had the same amount of playing time as Mitchell to this point, I can honestly say it's not a contest of who is better prepaired to play at this time. But Rich doesn't have that experence, Mitchell wins this spot as long as he is healthy.

I can honestly say that due to Mitchells TC injuries, if he goes down, it may be tough for Mitchell to get it back.

BTW, IMHO, Maz is too slow after these injuries.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

To be fair here, Mitchell is the leading canidate for MLB, I have stated this over and over many times. Mitchell does have 16 - 20 games under his belt the last 2 years. By playing in Gun's scheme last year, he is/should be farther advanced to understand it.

As good as Rich did in NFLE, this is a step above and it will be a learning experence for him to step in. If Rich of had the same amount of playing time as Mitchell to this point, I can honestly say it's not a contest of who is better prepaired to play at this time. But Rich doesn't have that experence, Mitchell wins this spot as long as he is healthy.

I can honestly say that due to Mitchells TC injuries, if he goes down, it may be tough for Mitchell to get it back.

BTW, IMHO, Maz is too slow after these injuries.

So a TC injury to Mitchell would make him the Chiefs Wally Pipp to Gopher's Lou Gehrig, right?

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Laz

i think speed players like kawika mitchell,Derrick Johnson etc always look better early.

no tackling,no pads etc plays to their strengths


guys like Maz and prolly Bell look better when things get dirty

The biggest comment I've heard when specific 'why' is given to him looking better: he's in place to make plays now, where he's supposed to be because he's (finally) reading plays correctly. He wasn't even close in that regard a year ago, as I recall. I think it's more of a "light coming on upstairs" thing than it is an athletic guy making plays he's always made. We'll see, though, none of it's full speed yet.

And mentioning maz in the same sentence will Bell is kind of weird. Bell is very athletic, not someone who has to overcome physicial deficiencies like mike. I remember some plays when Bell was at his best 2 and 3 years ago, and he could get around the corner in a flash. He's very quick/fast in about a 10-yard range, probably a better initial burst than Johnson, even, he just doesn't have the same top-end speed (but he's not slow), that final gear that Johnson has (not many players do...).

He also looked pretty good on Saturday, along with Fox, Johnson and Mitchell. We had 4 LBs who looked like they could all be all over the field in the fall; I'd never seen anything like that here before. Thinking wistfully of Lew Bush and Marvcus Patton I was not. If that translates into full speed play when the pads are on, it's gonna be a lot of fun to watch. I can't wait to see the preseason.

[whoman69]

I would seriously doubt that after a year and a half out of football, that Maz retains the physical and mental skills to compete. If he is not starter, I doubt he takes a trip back to ST and thus does not make the team. Scanlon is a surety to be on the team at least until the last cut because of his NFLEL exemption. I would doubt Grigsby is put on the practice squad, though it is possible. He will probably be a backup and ST while Scanlon and Mitchell fight it out for the starter spot. Scanlon may be hurt by the wear and tear of the NFLEL season.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by SideWinder

So a TC injury to Mitchell would make him the Chiefs Wally Pipp to Gopher's Lou Gehrig, right?

How ever you wish to make it sound for your own taste, be it.I recall saying that IMHO,......... if he ( Mitchell ) goes down, it may ( nothing about will ) be tough for Mitchell to get it back.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Scanlon may be hurt by the wear and tear of the NFLEL season.

I think he's also hurt by not being here for most of the offseason workouts. There's something to be said for playing live ball, obviously, but there's also something to be said for getting coaching here on our system. That could be an advantage for Mitchell if it does come down to a head-to-head thing. Although the more I hear the coaches talk lately, the more I think it'll take an injury or something absolutely amazing from Scanlon in camp to get Mitchell off the field. And by "amazing", I don't mean looking good late in the second half of a preseason game against guys who probably won't ever be in the league, I mean coming into camp and taking the job the way maslowski nearly did a few years ago when he was fighting with Patton for the starting job until he got hurt, against the Bears as I recall, in a preseason game.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I think he's also hurt by not being here for most of the offseason workouts. There's something to be said for playing live ball, obviously, but there's also something to be said for getting coaching here on our system. That could be an advantage for Mitchell if it does come down to a head-to-head thing. Although the more I hear the coaches talk lately, the more I think it'll take an injury or something absolutely amazing from Scanlon in camp to get Mitchell off the field. And by "amazing", I don't mean looking good late in the second half of a preseason game against guys who probably won't ever be in the league, I mean coming into camp and taking the job the way maslowski nearly did a few years ago when he was fighting with Patton for the starting job until he got hurt, against the Bears as I recall, in a preseason game.

I agree. The live action served what the Chiefs needed to see in Rich, does he have the talent and the brains to pick up the schemes. He excelled well against the weaker league. But it has paid the price as far as scheme and learning how Gun wants to run a D. Kawika has benefited this during the off season. I don't think anybody here has questioned Mitchells ability, it's what's upstairs that was lacking.I hope Gun has it worked out for the Chiefs sake.

I have said it before and will say it again, It's Mitchells job to lose, I don't think Rich can come back from NFLE & grab it away unless Mitchell totally sucks or has an TC injury.Although Rich did get to practice it ( scheme)some last year, it's different than playing 12 games ( like Mitchell ) and having the off season to fine tune the scheme.