*****The Ashton Gillotte Thread*****

[Dante84]

More to come!

Ashton Gillotte is a DE prospect in the 2025 draft class. He scored a 9.75 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 52 out of 2012 DE from 1987 to 2025.https://t.co/HnqzB7OnCb pic.twitter.com/zU6mq67c0Q

— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) March 31, 2025

Louisville’s Ashton Gillotte is BEYOND underrated pic.twitter.com/wcWsGXtfi1

— PFF College (@PFF_College) April 20, 2025

The Chiefs select Louisville EDGE Ashton Gillotte at No. 66 overall. He racked up 39.5 TFLs and 25.5 sacks across 50 games during his college career.

KC has gone heavy in the trenches so far with an OT, DT and now an edge defender.

— Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) April 26, 2025

Ashton Gillotte has some of my favorite tape to watch from this edge class. Speed to power is so consistent + really nice cross-chop & inside counter. Also love the motor & hand pop vs the run pic.twitter.com/CT9JW2uoQw

— James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) April 1, 2025

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's the arm length, IMO.

And I'll preface this by again saying that I love the player and very much wanted us to take him before the draft.

That said, his biggest asset is converting speed to power, IMO. And that IS a little more difficult when you have shorter arms because it's harder to get inside the OLs pads. What really makes that effective is if you can land a punch, rock 'em a little bit and then drive them backwards and/or dip/rip through them.

I don't think the arm length is the sort of thing that will cost him being a productive NFL player, but it MIGHT make things a little more complicated for him or maybe make him someone more adept at crushing the pocket than actually finishing sacks (a little like GK in that regard, though for different reasons).

I like him, but if you wanna know why he fell further than his production and athleticism says he should've, that's why. It's not pure height - it's reach. The height is a little on the shorter side but not brutal; 5'3"ish absolutely works. It's having arms under 32 inches that is a bit disconcerting.

I mean there's a non-zero chance that he ends up a guy like Josh Paschal who can create some pressure and havoc, but isn't gonna go out there and get 8-10 sacks/season.

This is why the Rams wanting to trade up for him makes me feel really good about him.

Braden Fiske-31 inches
Kobie Turner-32 inches
Byron Young-32.5 inches

They’ve been taking advantage of talent dropping for that reason for years and it worked in large part bc each of those guys is really good at converting speed to power and winning bc they are just so goddamn athletic and explosive that it’s hard for OL to get their hands on them.

I’m thinking he’ll be just like them

[DJ's left nut]

yeah.

I mean, if Paschal is the guy you're worried about him being, Fiske is definitely the guy you hope he can be.

And in the middle it's just a question of technique and timing, IMO. Aim the punch at the right spot and the right time and even with the shorter arms, you'll have enough success to be productive.

Some of his success at the college level is bully ball. You can see him getting into an OLs body and just driving him back. You can't do that all that often in the NFL. They're big dudes.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's the arm length, IMO.

And I'll preface this by again saying that I love the player and very much wanted us to take him before the draft.

That said, his biggest asset is converting speed to power, IMO. And that IS a little more difficult when you have shorter arms because it's harder to get inside the OLs pads. What really makes that effective is if you can land a punch, rock 'em a little bit and then drive them backwards and/or dip/rip through them.

I don't think the arm length is the sort of thing that will cost him being a productive NFL player, but it MIGHT make things a little more complicated for him or maybe make him someone more adept at crushing the pocket than actually finishing sacks (a little like GK in that regard, though for different reasons).

I like him, but if you wanna know why he fell further than his production and athleticism says he should've, that's why. It's not pure height - it's reach. The height is a little on the shorter side but not brutal; 5'3"ish absolutely works. It's having arms under 32 inches that is a bit disconcerting.

I mean there's a non-zero chance that he ends up a guy like Josh Paschal who can create some pressure and havoc, but isn't gonna go out there and get 8-10 sacks/season.

... but what if we operate on the assumption that his arm length, like everyone else's, is 3/8 to 5/8 longer than measured at the combine?

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's the arm length, IMO.

And I'll preface this by again saying that I love the player and very much wanted us to take him before the draft.

That said, his biggest asset is converting speed to power, IMO. And that IS a little more difficult when you have shorter arms because it's harder to get inside the OLs pads. What really makes that effective is if you can land a punch, rock 'em a little bit and then drive them backwards and/or dip/rip through them.

I don't think the arm length is the sort of thing that will cost him being a productive NFL player, but it MIGHT make things a little more complicated for him or maybe make him someone more adept at crushing the pocket than actually finishing sacks (a little like GK in that regard, though for different reasons).

I like him, but if you wanna know why he fell further than his production and athleticism says he should've, that's why. It's not pure height - it's reach. The height is a little on the shorter side but not brutal; 5'3"ish absolutely works. It's having arms under 32 inches that is a bit disconcerting.

I mean there's a non-zero chance that he ends up a guy like Josh Paschal who can create some pressure and havoc, but isn't gonna go out there and get 8-10 sacks/season.

I actually think a 5'3 DE with 32 inch arms would be fun to watch on Sundays!

[fuzzy]

I don't get the whole arm length thing. Yea, it's not ideal. But he was taken with the 66th pick in the draft. Blue chip EDGE rushers typically go in the top 5 overall. Not even kidding. Usually by pick 6 the blue chippers at EDGE are gone.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

... but what if we operate on the assumption that his arm length, like everyone else's, is 3/8 to 5/8 longer than measured at the combine?

32.5..ish plays ball

Within a finger nail of Karlaftis.