If Josh Simmons falls to 31...

[staylor26]

Do you take him? This is assuming the medicals check out and he should be back to 100% at some point in the near future.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Yeah he’s not making it to the Chiefs. Think today sealed that

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

If the medicals check out, he's going top 15. If they don't, you don't want him.

I really don't think he's an option.

Darrisaw lasted to the 23rd pick, and most thought he'd be a top 15 lock

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Darrisaw lasted to the 23rd pick, and most thought he'd be a top 15 lock

This guy has what is usually a career ending injury right out of the gate, though. Totally different situation.

[Dunerdr]

The more I think about it, it just feels like if he falls that far teams don’t like the medicals. And if that’s the case I don’t see us jumping for him. But then again maybe there’s a plan like Trey Smith. But it’s a far different injury.

[staylor26]

Bump

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Bump

Thanks for the reminder...

I sure hope Veach gets this one right because it sure looks about as bad as it could possibly get.

[Dunerdr]

Hopefully this magical 2nd pin or whatever is a surgery game changer.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Hopefully this magical 2nd pin or whatever is a surgery game changer.

It’s something that has been around for a while and has typically been used for the most severe cases.

There is some info floating around that his tear was a partial one (which would mean a tear rather than a rupture). Maybe double bracing a partial tear is a new approach.

I’ll grasp for whatever logical hope I can add on, I guess.

[InvinciBill]

No but I'd pick the hell outta him at 32.

[Couch-Potato]

He can sit all season if he needs to, until he’s healthy, no worries.

When he finally is healthy, he’ll sure up that LT spot for several years.

No need to doom and gloom, think positive thoughts.

I kinda hope we just plug that LG spot in the 2nd.

[Dunerdr]

I know I'm being a stubborn Debbie downer but it almost feels to me like we need a Kelcesque pick to salvage this draft ala 2013.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

He can sit all season if he needs to, until he’s healthy, no worries.

When he finally is healthy, he’ll sure up that LT spot for several years.

No need to doom and gloom, think positive thoughts.

I kinda hope we just plug that LG spot in the 2nd.

You're misunderstanding.

The issue isn't whether he is healthy or will get healthy. All indications are he's doing well in recovery and on track to be available/cleared for football activity for the upcoming season.

The issue is whether his "healthy" now is different than his "healthy" before. Is his knee/leg the same? Is it less than? If it's less than, how much less than? Is he at risk of doing what Jack Conklin apparently did, overcompensating with his good leg/knee, and blowing that joint the **** out (Conklin tore EVERYTHING - ACL, MCL, PCL - if I remember correctly)? Is his noted upper-body strength enough to compensate for the leg/knee, if they are less than they were before, which would indicate that maybe he's never quite as good as he could have been but still is effective?

I'm hoping it all works out. But there are significant reasons for concern, and I'm not the sort to just ignore those. I can set them aside and hope, but they don't just go away.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

You're misunderstanding.

The issue isn't whether he is healthy or will get healthy. All indications are he's doing well in recovery and on track to be available/cleared for football activity for the upcoming season.

The issue is whether his "healthy" now is different than his "healthy" before. Is his knee/leg the same? Is it less than? If it's less than, how much less than? Is he at risk of doing what Jack Conklin apparently did, overcompensating with his good leg/knee, and blowing that joint the **** out (Conklin tore EVERYTHING - ACL, MCL, PCL - if I remember correctly)? Is his noted upper-body strength enough to compensate for the leg/knee, if they are less than they were before, which would indicate that maybe he's never quite as good as he could have been but still is effective?

I'm hoping it all works out. But there are significant reasons for concern, and I'm not the sort to just ignore those. I can set them aside and hope, but they don't just go away.

Understood. We’re all in the same boat, now, hoping he gets healthy and becomes a pro bowler.

Here’s a question no one’s asked… IF he has lost a step due to injury, long term, couldn’t he just end up playing LG for us?

It would still fill a major need, he wouldn’t need as much movement skills, and he could potentially dominate that role considering his skill set.

Sure, he wouldn’t be as valuable of a 1st rounder if that were the case but we could still end up with the best IOL in the league.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Understood. We’re all in the same boat, now, hoping he gets healthy and becomes a pro bowler.

Here’s a question no one’s asked… IF he has lost a step due to injury, long term, couldn’t he just end up playing LG for us?

It would still fill a major need, he wouldn’t need as much movement skills, and he could potentially dominate that role considering his skill set.

Sure, he wouldn’t be as valuable of a 1st rounder if that were the case but we could still end up with the best IOL in the league.

I am more worried about him losing power than agility. Which would be just as much of a problem, if not more, at G.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I am more worried about him losing power than agility. Which would be just as much of a problem, if not more, at G.

IF he loses his agility, AND he loses his power, how about a position as mascot?

[Chris Meck]

Well, we'll know in August, because Andy says he'll be ready for camp. So, as far as I'm concerned, that's what is happening.