*****The Josh Simmons Thread*****

[Dante84]

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— Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) April 25, 2025

Several teams agree: Josh Simmons had best tape of any OT last year. And they aren't very concerned with recovery on the torn patella tendon. More of the concern is maturity/character. But he's going to the ideal, veteran-laden place.

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) April 25, 2025

the #chiefs get LT Josh Simmons out of Ohio State. If Simmons didn't suffer a torn patellar tendon he would have been the first tackle off the board. I had one team tell me he was the most athletic and talented tackle tape they watched. There are some maturity issues, but this…

— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs have selected #OSU OT Josh Simmons at No. 32, a player recovering nicely from a torn patellar tendon. They are comfortable with his rehab and did endless homework on it. https://t.co/awdb0JhPed

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs are selecting Ohio State LT Josh Simmons at No. 32 to close out Round 1.

A key addition to bolster the offensive line in front of Patrick Mahomes. pic.twitter.com/oBx2CjzmCe

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) April 25, 2025

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

Alright.
So, what is your solution? Stay put and hope for something better next year?

To what?

LT?

Play the guy we just committed at least 1/$22 million to and who's just entering the prime of his career.

Guy's essentially holding the same deal that Trey Smith is right now and we have folks acting like he's just some break glass in case of emergency option that we needed to be looking to layer before he even shows up for a voluntary minicamp.

At RT in 2026? Kingsley, Morris and/or someone we get and groom through the middle rounds this year.

Because ultimately I don't think it's a realistic ask to expect Simmons to start this season.

[Kiimo]

As mentioned here before the one thing I really do think gives me hope about this:



whoever said there have been medical advancements is right. Basing all our percentages on whether he can recover and then listing some guys from 20 years ago ignores the medical advancements completely.

Is this copium? A little.

Either the Chiefs just fixed their left tackle for a decade or flushed their first rounder down the toilet.

I'd have been much happier with Luther Burden but I do acknowledge that I'm not sure how else to fix left tackle without getting real lucky. It's the price of drafting in the 30s every year

[Mobilerudy]

My God, we’re still doing this armchair GM shit? Stick to your simulators and , nerd.

[Kiimo]

Drink antifreeze, new guy

[Mobilerudy]

Real Vernon Gholston energy

[Chieftain]

Originally Posted by Rausch

The reality is there was no reasonable solution in the draft this year. Admit to that and adapt. The only option was to overpay a FA or trade for someone.

We didn't. We signed a guy who's only been a b/u we hope can become a dependable starter. We repeated the same actions of drafting a guy who's a longshot to work out once again. He only fell to us because every other NFL team felt he was too risky to take in the 1st round.

I stated this after the SB and I'll say it again - pay what it costs to get a legit LT. If that's two firsts and two thirds that's the cost. No cutting corners, no long shots, just do it. Bite the bullet, move up for a top prospect, take the highest possible odds of it working.

I don't disagree with the need to solve the LT problem - I agree. In fact I'm willing to sacrifice more to fix it. A guy who might not play at all this year does not fix the problem. A guy who might play 2 years and be done does not fix the problem.

I would not have traded for Tunsil. I would not have signed the LT we did. I would not have spent a draft pick on a LT.

I would have done ALL these things to guarantee the problem is fixed. I would have, absolutely, overcompensated because the need is that great.

Ok. What about next year? How do you go about acquiring e LT, picking at the bottom of the standings? It's a cycle. You are not getting an elite level LT without moving up to the Top 10, and selling the farm in the process.

This was a rare situation of an elite talent becoming available and you take that chance.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by nychief

I'm sincerely hoping that Moore shows out and Simmons can red shirt this season, the flop Moore to RT and start Simmons next season once Taylor is off the books. Morris is the swing, Kingsly is the LG... lets go.

Moore is a trainwreck at RT. That’s the last thing we need.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

Veache nailed this the more I sit back and evaluate how he went about adressing the LT situation. Immediately upgraded the position in free agency with the Moore signing, while not capstrapping the team longterm. Drafted his future replacement in what was considered the best LT prospect in the draft.

Most football experts hailed the pick as an A+. Few even brought up the medical concerns. Which are there. But, this needed to be done. You have to swing and be bold in this league. Not stay dormant and hope for the best.

Jaylon Moore is 27 years old. Why do we need to be 'drafting his replacement' right now?

Cap issues?

What do you think it's gonna cost to keep George Karlaftis? To keep Rashee Rice? To replace Chris Jones in free agency?

Because the 1st rounder could've been used to address ANY of those positions.

So the reason you be looking to replace Moore in 2027 wouldn't be financial -- the opportunity cost of the pick makes that a 1 for 1 exchanged. It would be talent. If Moore is even an average NFL LT, the correct response is to extend him, not walk away from him.

So I ask again, are we really treating a guy who will cost us 1 year, $22 million if we walk away from him after this season or $30 million total if we keep him for 2, like he's some erratic scrub?

Because if that's the case, the mistake Veach made wasn't on the first day of the draft. It was the first day of free agency.

[KCUnited]

Mark Sanchez had obvious Melanoma on his face and it didn't stop yall from pounding the table...plus he ****ing sucked

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Chieftain

Ok. What about next year? How do you go about acquiring e LT, picking at the bottom of the standings? .

I just literally described it in the post above. This isn't ignorance - it's malice. I just stated to trade whatever it takes to move up and get one.

You do that by moving up and getting one.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH IT COSTS - YOU SEND 4 DRAFT PICKS IF THAT IS THE COST OR YOU SEND 20.

That is how you get a franchise LT OR QB - You either suck balls and get pick 8 or you move up and pay the cost to move up and pick at 8.

Quit being ****ing cheap, pay what it costs to get the best LT option out there, and make it happen. Don't play dice, don't buy 3 lottery tickets, don't take 4 fliers with a 7th round pick.

TRADE UP AND GET THE BEST OPTION. If that costs 3 first round picks to protect Mahomes you do it.

[wazu]

It seems like Chiefsplanet is the only place on earth where anybody is deeply concerned about the knee. It gets mentioned elsewhere, but people talk about it like it was a torn ACL or something and move right on.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Three of the most intelligent, rational, logical posters this board has to offer:

I don't like the pick and here is the data showing why this is a bad idea.

ChiefsPlanet:

Sure. But can we also acknowledge the team has the actual medicals on Simmons, it's really a relatively small sample size of data, and not declare the pick a waste and Veach ****ing dumb until we actually see how Simmons is faring going into camp and the season.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Sure. But can we also acknowledge the team has the actual medicals on Simmons, it's really a relatively small sample size of data, and not declare the pick a waste and Veach ****ing dumb until we actually see how Simmons is faring going into camp and the season.

So should we just not say ANYTHING prior to the draft?

Because that's the thing -- the folks that said this pick is a waste and this was a dumb decision said it BEFORE the draft.

Nobody was sitting on their hands here and then flying off the top rope when the pick was made. We said it before and then it happened. Are people surprised that we say it now?

In some way chagrined that we're wasting Austin's bandwidth? CD Fixed his Shit. We can post without fear now.

It's always strange to me when folks get riled about about someone who didn't like the prospect of a specific pick being made not liking said pick AFTER it was made.

All that happened is that we removed the 'if'.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Sure. But can we also acknowledge the team has the actual medicals on Simmons, it's really a relatively small sample size of data, and not declare the pick a waste and Veach ****ing dumb until we actually see how Simmons is faring going into camp and the season.

Everyone knows our medical staff evaluated the guy. No one is arguing they didn't.

Why is it that every other medical staff seems to have passed but us? Why is it that all other teams needing a LT passed but us?

What science and earth shattering medical instrumentation do you believe this team has access to that no other team has access to?

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by wazu

It seems like Chiefsplanet is the only place on earth where anybody is deeply concerned about the knee. It gets mentioned elsewhere, but people talk about it like it was a torn ACL or something and move right on.

I kind of doubt talking heads who said Simmons is a top five talent but was "dinged for an injury" have really spent a lot of time digging into the precise kind of injury and the history related to it like people here have.

It's a legitimate concern. It's a huge gamble. Just because Yahoo gives the Chiefs an A for this pick doesn't mean everything's kosher. We have a lot of "we'll see" ahead of us