Chiefs The 2025 Round 1 Back Seat Driver Poll - Page 2

**Rain Man** · 11:49 AM

I figure we should quantify stuff with a poll. Read the instructions carefully so you don't disappoint those who depend on you.

If I remember, I'll do this for each pick in the draft. We'll start with the first-round pick because that's the pick that came first chronologically.

Part 1: Approval Poll. This one is pretty straightforward. It should include both your opinion of the draftee as well as your opinion of the quality of other available options.

Part 2: Alternate Pick Poll: Vote in this one even if you would have drafted Josh Simmons if you were GM. This is just to look at our second choices. For your convenience, I have included a list of the "top remaining" based on the NFL site: https://www.nfl.com/news/best-prospe...2025-nfl-draft

Poll will arrive as soon as Roger gets to the podium to announce it. Note that this is a public poll to allow for bragging or ridicule in future years.

**PHOG** · Yesterday, 01:52 PM

I voted I like it because it's done and hopefully it turns out (nothing I can do to change it). I was intrigued by the Johnson CB who fell for who knows what reason.

**Rausch** · Yesterday, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Indifferent. Talent and need is there but the injury is too risky for my blood.

Same.

A lot of talent left and even if this pick is a miss we could still nail the draft as a whole. I guess my critique would be Veach can get over-aggressive at times and not get the most value by being patient. If the choice was only over-aggressive or overly-passive I'd prefer to side with over-aggressive.

Hoover · Yesterday, 02:02 PM

I don't like it when people suggest that the pick is "risky," I mean all picks are risky.

I like the pick because of the upside it brings. If Simmons pans out, the Chiefs won the ****ing lottery and just blew open their Super Bowl contention window. It's already open because of Mahomes, but if they fit the online through the draft, have already invested in the WR through the draft, think of the cap space thatchy will have created.

I'm excited about Simmons because he's a man, who knows how to play LT. He's a day one starter once fully healthy. But equally exciting is that we have more young developing talent with Kingsley and Morris. And who knows maybe Moore finds a home at guard or RT and we extend him for a reasonable amount. I just like this situation a whole lot better than the hope and a prayer approach last year, which resembled they Skyy Moore and Toney approach to the WR position

JPH83 · Yesterday, 02:38 PM

I can't dislike it at this stage, because it's a premium position where we have at least somewhat of a long-term need and the upside seems reasonable.

But, it's not what I'd have done. I'd probably have gone Burden, possibly Green. I don't think I'm even astronomically high on either, I think I'd just have been a little more risk-averse with this particular injury.

I'm not sure I buy the whole "if it doesn't work out, no worries, it's the right move" - I mean, it's a defensible move right now, sure, but if the injury doesn't work out and a number of the players picked after turn out to be blue-chip talents, then it absolutely wasn't the right move.

But man, if it works, this and a few others will be funny threads.

Wallymo · Yesterday, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu

I was teetering on "dislike", but landed on "don't know squat" because I really want that to be true. It would be so amazing if we actually did manage to land a franchise LT with Pick 32.

This is where I'm at too. Everything I've read here -- by people that I believe know what they are talking about -- is very pessimistic that Simmons will ever be the same player. Even if he's deemed "recovered."

But I'm an optimist by nature, read everything available from Veach, Andy and the team doctor about the state of the injury and am hoping we got a real steal here instead.

So I went with "don't know squat" to cover my bases.

el borracho · Yesterday, 02:53 PM

Hope Simmons regains his health but I don't like the gamble (1st round pick on a 300lb lineman with patellar tendon issues).

Eagles traded with us, presumably to prevent a trade with someone else. I would like to know what was offered (assuming it wasn't a bluff by Veach).

With Harmon gone, I probably would have looked to trade back a few spots. Then I would be looking at Tuimoloau or A. Thomas.

Womble · Yesterday, 02:53 PM

Sanders would have been a solid 3rd choice QB.

Balto · Yesterday, 03:11 PM

Simmons OR trade down again.

View Poll Results: Two-Part Poll. Please answer both questions.
*** Part 1. What is your opinion on the decision to draft Josh Simmons?	0	0%
I love it.	22	30.99%
I like it.	22	30.99%
I’m indifferent.	10	14.08%
I don’t know squat about it at this point.	5	7.04%
I dislike it.	10	14.08%
I hate it.	3	4.23%
*** Part 2. If Josh Simmons had NOT been available, who would you have selected instead?	0	0%
S Nick Emmanwori	4	5.63%
CB Will Johnson	7	9.86%
QB Shadeur Sanders	1	1.41%
Edge Mike Green	3	4.23%
TE Mason Taylor	2	2.82%
Edge Donovan Ezeiruaku	3	4.23%
RB TreVeyon Henderson	17	23.94%
WR Luther Burden III	19	26.76%
RB Quinshon Judkins	0	0%
LB Carson Schwesinger	0	0%
CB Trey Amos	2	2.82%
Edge Landon Jackson	0	0%
I would have picked another player not on this list, and will name him below.	4	5.63%
I have no idea who I'd pick. It's not my job to do this.	8	11.27%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

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Yesterday, 01:52 PM	#16
PHOG Dazed and Confused Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Somewhere Out There Casino cash: $-1589500	I voted I like it because it's done and hopefully it turns out (nothing I can do to change it). I was intrigued by the Johnson CB who fell for who knows what reason.
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Yesterday, 02:02 PM	#18
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-1891821	I don't like it when people suggest that the pick is "risky," I mean all picks are risky. I like the pick because of the upside it brings. If Simmons pans out, the Chiefs won the ****ing lottery and just blew open their Super Bowl contention window. It's already open because of Mahomes, but if they fit the online through the draft, have already invested in the WR through the draft, think of the cap space thatchy will have created. I'm excited about Simmons because he's a man, who knows how to play LT. He's a day one starter once fully healthy. But equally exciting is that we have more young developing talent with Kingsley and Morris. And who knows maybe Moore finds a home at guard or RT and we extend him for a reasonable amount. I just like this situation a whole lot better than the hope and a prayer approach last year, which resembled they Skyy Moore and Toney approach to the WR position
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Yesterday, 02:38 PM	#19
JPH83 Veteran Join Date: Feb 2021 Casino cash: $-159600	I can't dislike it at this stage, because it's a premium position where we have at least somewhat of a long-term need and the upside seems reasonable. But, it's not what I'd have done. I'd probably have gone Burden, possibly Green. I don't think I'm even astronomically high on either, I think I'd just have been a little more risk-averse with this particular injury. I'm not sure I buy the whole "if it doesn't work out, no worries, it's the right move" - I mean, it's a defensible move right now, sure, but if the injury doesn't work out and a number of the players picked after turn out to be blue-chip talents, then it absolutely wasn't the right move. But man, if it works, this and a few others will be funny threads.
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Yesterday, 02:53 PM	#21
el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $2789148	Hope Simmons regains his health but I don't like the gamble (1st round pick on a 300lb lineman with patellar tendon issues). Eagles traded with us, presumably to prevent a trade with someone else. I would like to know what was offered (assuming it wasn't a bluff by Veach). With Harmon gone, I probably would have looked to trade back a few spots. Then I would be looking at Tuimoloau or A. Thomas.
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Yesterday, 02:53 PM	#22
Womble Veteran Join Date: Nov 2022 Casino cash: $-7979500	Sanders would have been a solid 3rd choice QB. __________________ My 2023 give up a Chief for adoption is Clyde Edwards-Helaire.
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Yesterday, 03:11 PM	#23
Balto Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona Casino cash: $92198	Simmons OR trade down again.
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