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Old 04-24-2025, 09:40 PM  
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Old Yesterday, 11:56 AM   #736
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I have eyes. His skill far supersedes what Morris and Kingsley do physically.

It’s just not that difficult. The guys who do this for a living are telling you the same thing.

Again, I don’t give a single **** if this doesn’t work out. I’m tired of watching Mahomes play down to his potential because his LT stinks. This guy is our best shot to fix that for the rest of his career.

If you’re different and think 32 just had to be a Pro Bowler lock, which doesn’t exist and certainly didn’t with this board, that’s your prerogative.
Did anyone say pro bowler lock? Can you show me where?
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It seems more like the Comerica Park center field, to me...
It's all honesty more like the Polo Grounds. But hey someone might hit it there
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I have eyes. His skill far supersedes what Morris and Kingsley do physically.

It’s just not that difficult. The guys who do this for a living are telling you the same thing.

Again, I don’t give a single **** if this doesn’t work out. I’m tired of watching Mahomes play down to his potential because his LT stinks. This guy is our best shot to fix that for the rest of his career.

If you’re different and think 32 just had to be a Pro Bowler lock, which doesn’t exist and certainly didn’t with this board, that’s your prerogative.
"I have eyes"

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Gotcha. Yeah, if this were an ACL or something where we just knew we wouldn't have him year 1 this pick would already be in "home run" category for me. Basically my Chiefs draft dream come true.
Exactly. ACL tears are almost common at this point when they ended you in the 90's.

There hasn't been dramatic progress in this injury. It's still rare and not many good outcomes.
And I'm not against risk. If you'd told me before this draft that Veach was trading up into the top 10 to grab his LTOTF I'd say "He knows what he's doing. Take your shot."

That isn't what we did. We took a big gamble because we didn't want to trade up. We hoped to get lucky like we hoped to get lucky with Kingsly and all our other long shot LT picks.
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"I have eyes"

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Okay.
I literally am the authority you trust.

I am evidence of why you shouldn't trust it.
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"First round picks have to start year one!" has always been a crock of shit to me. But that's just me.
It’s burning a year of cheap labor.

Now you’re in year 2 and the guy is getting his feet wet.

But it’s a potential LT….i get it. Hell I’m actually fine with it if he has to sit.

I don’t even really hate the pick. They need a LT of the future so it makes sense.

Hopefully we can eventually build a good enough OL for the qb to avoid the fetal position
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Exactly. ACL tears are almost common at this point when they ended you in the 90's.

There hasn't been dramatic progress in this injury. It's still rare and not many good outcomes.
And I'm not against risk. If you'd told me before this draft that Veach was trading up into the top 10 to grab his LTOTF I'd say "He knows what he's doing. Take your shot."

That isn't what we did. We took a big gamble because we didn't want to trade up. We hoped to get lucky like we hoped to get lucky with Kingsly and all our other long shot LT picks.
The draft barely prices ACL injuries into blue chip talents anymore.

31 other teams very clearly did here.

So either Simmons isn't a blue chip talent or this AINT an injury to be hand-waived.
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Will just throw this out there.

Roaf was ****ing amazing for us and dude could barely walk.

Rub some dirt on that knee and get out there and protect the GOAT.
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I literally am the authority you trust.

I am evidence of why you shouldn't trust it.
At least he followed it up with a straw man.

Just an aces effort there.
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We have two pretty good options at LT and they will battle it out at camp to see who will start.

I'm excited.
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That's not entirely accurate. As I understood it he plays in an odd blocking scheme that doesn't directly translate to many NFL teams and he's going to need polish and technique.

The fact that he is a freak athlete and good mover is why he shouldn't have a steep learning curve.

Blocking scheme is irrelevant.

He is Pro Ready now.

This is not Kingsley.
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Not even just that, but the complete and total lack of depth. You're one snap away from Morris being in again, which simply cannot happen. He's a backup RT at best, he can never see the left side again.

Now, you have true competition for Taylor when he knows his ass is going to be cut next year. He needs to put some better tape out there if he wants to land another deal. So, he either steps up or Moore takes his job. Either way, you now have three starting caliber tackles when you ended last season with barely even one in Taylor.

The more time that passes, it's obvious this was the one and only choice, and I bet the Chiefs are freaking thrilled. There will be plenty of RBs, DL and WRs who can contribute day one in rounds 2-3, the same cannot be said for OTs.

It wasn't just the right pick, it was the only pick.
So let's say he starts day 1 (doesn't seem likely given him being ready for TC isn't guaranteed)...why give $21mil guaranteed to a backup? Especially when the story on Moore is that while he was good at LT, he was very bad at RT? In this day one scenario, we have a $21mil backup tackle who can only play on one side. That's terrible value.

I don't see any way Moore doesn't start this season. Hopefully he plays great so we can either extend him and have Simmons play on the right side next year or trade him and we can slide Simmons in at LT. But unless he's just flat out terrible at camp, I don't see a guy that's still recovering from a major injury being able to beat him at camp.
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"I have eyes"

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Okay.
Can both not be true?

Why would I think he’s not the top notch talent everyone says he is? It’s right there to see.

Dancing bears are too rare to miss when they’re right in front of your face. To pretend Simmons isn’t that would be admitting I can’t evaluate talent, at all.
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So either Simmons isn't a blue chip talent or this AINT an injury to be hand-waived.
Isn’t this somewhat similar to Nolan Smith falling to the end of the first? Blue chip talent falling down the draft board because of injury? Maybe teams think Simmons will miss some time this year and didn’t draft him in large part for that reason.
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