*****The Josh Simmons Thread*****

[Dante84]

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— Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) April 25, 2025

Several teams agree: Josh Simmons had best tape of any OT last year. And they aren't very concerned with recovery on the torn patella tendon. More of the concern is maturity/character. But he's going to the ideal, veteran-laden place.

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) April 25, 2025

the #chiefs get LT Josh Simmons out of Ohio State. If Simmons didn't suffer a torn patellar tendon he would have been the first tackle off the board. I had one team tell me he was the most athletic and talented tackle tape they watched. There are some maturity issues, but this…

— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs have selected #OSU OT Josh Simmons at No. 32, a player recovering nicely from a torn patellar tendon. They are comfortable with his rehab and did endless homework on it. https://t.co/awdb0JhPed

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs are selecting Ohio State LT Josh Simmons at No. 32 to close out Round 1.

A key addition to bolster the offensive line in front of Patrick Mahomes. pic.twitter.com/oBx2CjzmCe

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) April 25, 2025

[Hammock Parties]

Jesus Christ.

Simmons From 2023 vs Michigan.

This backside cutoff on the DT is absurd. Maybe pivots a little too much off the right foot, but the quickness to overtake and seal is insane. This is the kind of block that can create massive runs. pic.twitter.com/2AlXbzjd2Y

— Caleb James (@CJScoobs) April 25, 2025

[louie aguiar]

Left tackle is arguably the second most important position in football. We got a guy who could be elite at 32- that’s a gamble worth taking. We know that elite healthy left tackle prospects aren’t available at the end of the first round. The only way we could draft a prospect of this caliber is to trade up and give up draft capital like a future first. Veach was able to snag this guy and traded back a pick - win-win

[Palangi]

Originally Posted by Balto

A study shows there is a 20% chance!

[RealSNR]

Oh God he has a nose ring. That's disgusting.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by kccrow

How does Burkholder examining him change the odds? As if he can somehow dictate that the kid's tendon will beat those odds just because it looks good?

I don’t know what to tell you, dude. But if you don’t think examining a certain person can glean information that alters the conditional probabilities, then you’re just on a different wavelength from basic science and deduction.

This is almost as odd as your quest against the concept of “blackout drunk” as a real thing.

I love you during this time of year though. You’re a true treasure to this board. But you’re kinda weird with some of this.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by Katie

Point: What are the character concerns? I have never heard anything specific on that. Second point: Will anyone in the media really question their decision to draft this guy and give us their reasoning?

Probably nothing and Beach spread the character issue rumors to have him drop! Great job Veach!

[TwistedChief]

Mel Kiper lists 6 teams that were the biggest winners including….

The pick: Josh Simmons (No. 32)

The Chiefs added a fifth-rounder in a move back from No. 31 and addressed a big problem at left tackle with my No. 15 prospect. I can't say enough good things about this bookend to Day 1. Simmons was dinged during the predraft process because of his knee injury, which limited him to six games in 2024. But if healthy, he might have been the OT1 in the class. Seriously. He's consistent with terrific pass protection traits.

If you watched the Super Bowl, you know Patrick Mahomes' blindside was going to be an offseason focus. Kingsley Suamataia and Wanya Morris weren't the answers there, and Joe Thuney -- who moved outside from guard -- was traded. The Chiefs signed Jaylon Moore, but he was a backup in San Francisco, so he's not a sure thing. Simmons could be the long-term answer. He can help inside at guard, too, or potentially bump to right tackle, where Jawaan Taylor has been inconsistent.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

What is the sample size of previous offensive linemen sustaining this injury?

I've posted this a few times but...

It's really the population, not the sample. it was 17 from 2009-10 season to the 2022-23 season. A handful more have been added since, and none have turned out favorably.

The data was 6 of 17 ever returned to play. 1 of 16 returned to play in as many games post-injury as pre-injury. 1 of 16 returned to start in as many games post-injury as pre-injury. 2 of 16 returned to their PFF-graded level of prior performance. I'm assuming the 1 slot discrepancy between 17 and 16 is 1 returned to play but never actually got to see any live game time.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

No risk it, no biscuit.

As a perennial SB contender - this may be the only time in Mahomes' career that we get a chance at a guy like this. Remember everyone lamenting about how we're never going to be in position to get one of the - if not the top LT in a draft? You submit that pick the second Simmons is still on the board when you're up. They knew Philly wasn't taking him. So you fill a 5th round hole and get a guy who probably would've gone in the top 5-10 slots if not for the injury.

Could it blow up in their faces? Anything is possible. Anything except the Chiefs getting a consensus top 2 or 3 LT in the Mahomes-era without taking a shot at a guy coming off a very concerning injury.

You miss 100% of the chances you don't take. I'm sure the training staff vetted him. If they're on board, so am I. The dude has some tape that looks like Silverback. Gotta take this chance.

[JPH83]

Obviously a huge gamble, absent of trading up I guess it's going to be hard to fix LT without one, and let's be honest, we need picks, there's plenty of gaps coming up in this roster.

Not where I'd have gone but if they improve the DL and get a RB upgrade with the remaining picks then this is still a good draft that does most of what we need it to.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Katie

Point: What are the character concerns? I have never heard anything specific on that. Second point: Will anyone in the media really question their decision to draft this guy and give us their reasoning?

He probably didn't help defenders up after pancake blocks.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I don’t know what to tell you, dude. But if you don’t think examining a certain person can glean information that alters the conditional probabilities, then you’re just on a different wavelength from basic science and deduction.

This is almost as odd as your quest against the concept of “blackout drunk” as a real thing.

I love you during this time of year though. You’re a true treasure to this board. But you’re kinda weird with some of this.

Subjective probability versus objective probability. Burkholder's examination is subjective and would lead one to believe that the probability of success may be higher than the currently measured probability that it will be.

[kcfan75]

Originally Posted by louie aguiar

Left tackle is arguably the second most important position in football. We got a guy who could be elite at 32- that’s a gamble worth taking. We know that elite healthy left tackle prospects aren’t available at the end of the first round. The only way we could draft a prospect of this caliber is to trade up and give up draft capital like a future first. Veach was able to snag this guy and traded back a pick - win-win

I agree, and he is a lineman and not a running back, etc. Most lineman in college and the pros where custom fitted knee braces in every game. He's 22, young and hungry and probably willing to put in more work for that first real payday.

We're still at the point we have to take fliers on guys if we want to stay on top and draft in the last two picks.

[DynastyChiefs]

Look on the bright side, if Simmons becomes a bust, at least Chiefs got a 5th round pick in return

[Dante84]

One thing that I sort of like - and it’s probably dumb - is that his stance and silhouette remind me a lot of Trent Williams.