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Old 03-10-2025, 10:05 AM  
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Old 04-21-2025, 06:08 PM   #421
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Oh ok. That's fantastic.


So you believe drafting a first round LT would be a good move?
If there was an ACTUAL first round LT available to us, yes.

I'm sure Veach would tell you the same thing if you asked him.

But there will not be. I'm not convinced there's one in this entire draft. The best technician has 32" arms. I'm not sure an Ersery or a Grant might not become better offensive tackles but the smart money is that none of them do.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't take one and try anyway. But probably not at #31. Unless they really like Conerly. I could see that. But I'd raise an eyebrow.
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Old 04-21-2025, 06:12 PM   #422
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Elite pass rushes have always made great QB’s look bad. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning had the best statistical offenses ever averaging over 35 PPG and both times they got the shit beat out of them in a SB scoring only 14 and 9 points.

It’s pretty simple. Mahomes has won 3 SB’s with decent level tackles. He’s gotten his ass kicked with the the worst LT’s in the league in both SB losses.

This isn’t hard. He only needs decent tackles. He doesn’t need Willie Roaf
The tackles in this past years Super Bowl were decent thru the playoffs

Guess they just had a bad game
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Old 04-21-2025, 06:12 PM   #423
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Oh ok. That's fantastic.


So you believe drafting a first round LT would be a good move?
It's entirely dependent on who and who else is available.
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Old 04-21-2025, 06:14 PM   #424
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The tackles in this past years Super Bowl were decent thru the playoffs

Guess they just had a bad game



Did you watch the Chiefs last year?


I know Dix Lix knows more about our tackle situation than you do.


Thuney had a few nice games at the end but most of the year our LT was a complete liability.

No other star QB in the AFC had a worse LT situation.
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Based on what we know now it was a bad decision.




I doubt you have had more business success than I have so I don't need your advice gramps.
Yea, for OBJ, dumbass.

Exactly how is him later accepting less than what the Chiefs offered because he had a fake agent the Chiefs fault, reerun? The Chiefs should've just handed his amateur agent a blank check?
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Did you watch the Chiefs last year?


I know Dix Lix knows more about our tackle situation than you do.


Thuney had a few nice games at the end but most of the year our LT was a complete liability.

No other star QB in the AFC had a worse LT situation.
Yea we all watched the Chiefs this year. They lost 2 games all year, and they had their worst performance in the SB. We can't win the SB every year. Boo ****ing hoo.

The entitlement of somebody that isn't even a Chiefs fan, just a Mahomes fan boy, is unreal.
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It was bad for OBJ and bad for us.


Since he left we have thrown multiple drafts picks, signed FA's, and moved our star guard to LT in a SB where he melted down into slop.


It's been awful and a downgrade for us over a few million dollars.
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It was bad for OBJ and bad for us.


Since he left we have thrown multiple drafts picks, signed FA's, and moved our star guard to LT in a SB where he melted down into slop.


It's been awful and a downgrade for us over a few million dollars.
Yea, the result was. You were trying to palace blame though. That's clearly on OBJ. Now you've moved the goalposts.
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Based on what we know now it was a bad decision.




I doubt you have had more business success than I have so I don't need your advice gramps.
Does Brett Veach look like a bitch? Then why do you want him to act like a bitch?

He drew a line in the sand, Brown got in a huff and walked out, and ended up taking less elsewhere because HE is a bitch.

Shit happens.

doesn't mean Veach was wrong, it means Brown and his agent were stupid. The world is full of stupid and arrogant people.
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Old 04-21-2025, 06:26 PM   #430
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Does Brett Veach look like a bitch? Then why do you want him to act like a bitch?

He drew a line in the sand, Brown got in a huff and walked out, and ended up taking less elsewhere because HE is a bitch.

Shit happens.

doesn't mean Veach was wrong, it means Brown and his agent were stupid. The world is full of stupid and arrogant people.


That's fine to make a stand on value but he drew the line too low.

We had just traded a slew of draft picks to get the guy and OBJ performed where Mahomes won MVP and scored 38 points in the SB to win SB and SB MVP.

Our offense has been shit since.

Of course I will grant that Matt Nagy arriving has played a role as well but the LT has never been as good since. And our offense went from #1 in the NFL in Points Per Play in 2022 to 14th last year.
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Apparently more than he got on the OPEN ****ING MARKET is "too low".

Good grief.
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I don't get why we can't have a real discussion about Brett Veach.


He doesn't care what Mahomes Magic says on a Chiefs message board.


He's one of the top NFL GM's and will be in the HOF one day.


I hope he stays here another 15 years and gets a great successor to Andy and wins 3-4 more SB's with Mahomes.

But let's be honest that things have not worked out post Orlando at all at Left Tackle.
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I don't get why we can't have a real discussion about Brett Veach.


He doesn't care what Mahomes Magic says on a Chiefs message board.


He's one of the top NFL GM's and will be in the HOF one day.


I hope he stays here another 15 years and gets a great successor to Andy and wins 3-4 more SB's with Mahomes.

But let's be honest that things have not worked out post Orlando at all at Left Tackle.

Nobody's arguing any of those points.

You're assessing blame to Veach for OBJ leaving, when Veach offered more than he took from Cincinnati. Brown could have simply picked up the phone. But he was butt hurt, so he went to Cinci to...prove a point, I guess? How's that worked out for him?

Not all of Veach's moves work out, and the longer he's drafting at 30 plus, the harder it gets. But he's done a hell of a job, all things considered.

LT? Well, he made about as good a move as he could in free agency. I'm sure he's not done.
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If there was an ACTUAL first round LT available to us, yes.

I'm sure Veach would tell you the same thing if you asked him.

But there will not be. I'm not convinced there's one in this entire draft. The best technician has 32" arms. I'm not sure an Ersery or a Grant might not become better offensive tackles but the smart money is that none of them do.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't take one and try anyway. But probably not at #31. Unless they really like Conerly. I could see that. But I'd raise an eyebrow.
If they don’t feel a tackle is in this draft, they absolutely have to draft a receiving threat in the first 2 rds, be it a WR or TE.

I love Andy and Veach, but I have no ****ing clue what the **** these guys were thinking the last 2 years.

Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney as WR1/WR2
Kingsley starting day 1
Ignoring RB and only adding an old Perine at RB after losing McKinnon

I love Kelce, but the most shocking play last year was the Kelce long play in the Houston playoff game bc he legit was running a 5 second 40 again we all love him but he’s done. His legs are not there anymore. Neither were Juju’s, Hopkins or Kareem’s. They were slow as absolute hell. And my God Justin Watson doesn’t even deserve a mention.

We could legitimately walk into our opener with Worthy, Hollywood, washed Juju and washed Kelce as our starters. We cannot do this anymore.

Luther Burden might be the best pick for us. Dude would be a stud here. Whoever it is it has to be a guy who can help us now. Of course me they’ll get a stud RB. I’m confident in that.

Help Mahomes. This offense desperately needs juice at the skill positions
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