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Old 04-17-2025, 02:31 PM  
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Call Your Shot: Who will be the Chiefs first pick in the 2025 NFL draft?
I'm going with Josh Simmons, OT, Ohio St.

I think the Chiefs would prefer a guy like Walter Nolen or Derrick Harmon falls into their lap, but I don't think that happens next Thursday night, or at least I'm not going to get me hopes up.

A lot of people will not like this pick, due to the injury risk, but the Chiefs take a swing at a T that otherwise would never be in that late 1st round range.

Side note: I could also see Josh Conerly being the pick and could've just as easily chose him. Upside isn't as high, but he's probably safer given his health.
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Old 04-21-2025, 12:51 PM   #211
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It is scary drafting a tackle because we have not had one hit yet in the Veach era.


I know we haven't had a 1st rounder but we did spend 3 decently positioned assets so far on Niang, Morris, and Kinglsey.


Maybe the good news is we are due just like we had a run with no WR hits for a while...
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Old 04-21-2025, 12:51 PM   #212
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Counting the games Rice and Worthy played in the Chiefs averaged 23 points per game and were ranked 14th in the NFL on offense in Points Per Play.

Mediocre results even with Travis Kelce a year younger than he will be this year.
Are we talking about Worthy's first two games in the NFL?

Doesn't happen with every rookie but I think most reasonable fans would agree that Worthy got better as the year went on. Sep 2025 Worthy will not be the same as Sep 2024 Worthy.

And assuming he doesn't break between now and then you can add Brown to the mix, as well.

There are a lot of reasons for optimism about our 2025 WR group.
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Old 04-21-2025, 12:53 PM   #213
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Are we talking about Worthy's first two games in the NFL?

Doesn't happen with every rookie but I think most reasonable fans would agree that Worthy got better as the year went on. Sep 2025 Worthy will not be the same as Sep 2024 Worthy.

And assuming he doesn't break between now and then you can add Brown to the mix, as well.

There are a lot of reasons for optimism about our 2025 WR group.
Did Worthy get better?

I mean most rookies do but I didn't notice some huge difference.


More volume but he scored 2 TD's in his first NFL game. He wasn't a project player.
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Old 04-21-2025, 12:55 PM   #214
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It is scary drafting a tackle because we have not had one hit yet in the Veach era.


I know we haven't had a 1st rounder but we did spend 3 decently positioned assets so far on Niang, Morris, and Kinglsey.


Maybe the good news is we are due just like we had a run with no WR hits for a while...
Dude... Morris has a place somewhere on the line, probably either RT or G and are you really writing off Suamataia already? Suamataia has barely played. Let's maybe give him time to develop before we throw him on the scrap heap.
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Did Worthy get better?

I mean most rookies do but I didn't notice some huge difference.


More volume but he scored 2 TD's in his first NFL game. He wasn't a project player.
Holy **** imagine watching the entirety of last season and not seeing that Worthy got significantly better.
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Dude... Morris has a place somewhere on the line, probably either RT or G and are you really writing off Suamataia already? Suamataia has barely played. Let's maybe give him time to develop before we throw him on the scrap heap.
Just a year ago reeruns like him were screaming that Veach couldn't draft WRs. Now there's a new narrative.

The fact that 2/3 of the OTs were barely even in the top 100 might have something to do with it.
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Dude... Morris has a place somewhere on the line, probably either RT or G and are you really writing off Suamataia already? Suamataia has barely played. Let's maybe give him time to develop before we throw him on the scrap heap.
I haven't written Kingsley off at all.


But he was a project player that hasn't shown he is worthy of the pick yet.
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A draft guy that I know that actually grinds tape on these guys which I can't imagine how much time that takes but he ranked Conerly the #8 tackle in the draft. Here's his writeup





The more I read the less I like
What does this guy think of Ersery?
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Old 04-21-2025, 01:34 PM   #219
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If this is true he’s long gone before we even get a chance. Miami is very likely as JJ mocked here
Great. Optimal outcome.

Whatever team drafts him is going to find out, I believe firmly, that despite the scans looking "good" or whatever, that he is damaged goods like every other guy who ever has had this injury.
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I was playing sequence with Veach and his wife the other night and that guy couldn't stop talking about Emeka Egbuka, so I think its going to be him.
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Re: Simmons, it would be like drafting a baseball pitcher who already had thoracic outlet surgery on his throwing shoulder, in the first round.

Your medical team might be certain he’s healed and will be the same, but every bit of historical data you have would tell you he will never be the same again, even “healthy,” because his new “healthy” is less than it was before the injury.
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Just a year ago reeruns like him were screaming that Veach couldn't draft WRs. Now there's a new narrative.

The fact that 2/3 of the OTs were barely even in the top 100 might have something to do with it.
He's the one. He is literally the one. He wanted an "Alpha" WR its probably why he still shits on Worthy.
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Just a year ago reeruns like him were screaming that Veach couldn't draft WRs. Now there's a new narrative.

The fact that 2/3 of the OTs were barely even in the top 100 might have something to do with it.
Unfortunately for us, any quality ready to start LT is going in the top 20.
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