Call Your Shot: Who will be the Chiefs first pick in the 2025 NFL draft?

[staylor26]

I'm going with Josh Simmons, OT, Ohio St.

I think the Chiefs would prefer a guy like Walter Nolen or Derrick Harmon falls into their lap, but I don't think that happens next Thursday night, or at least I'm not going to get me hopes up.

A lot of people will not like this pick, due to the injury risk, but the Chiefs take a swing at a T that otherwise would never be in that late 1st round range.

Side note: I could also see Josh Conerly being the pick and could've just as easily chose him. Upside isn't as high, but he's probably safer given his health.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by RunKC

You can get good WR’s with lower assets (hello Worthy and Rice). You cannot get a LT. It never happens.

You aren’t getting a good LT in FA. Teams will not let those guys hit the market. And you won’t get them later in the draft either.

Jaylon Moore is simply the next Kingsley Suamatia, Wanya Morris or Donovan Smith. He’s a lottery ticket that even the Chiefs don’t have much faith in per his contract, and for good reason. He’s not even a good lottery ticket. He’s a below average one. He played in a protected run first scheme that helped him. That’s not what we do here. His ass is gonna have it rough. He’ll be on an island way more and I’m not confident he can hold up..


As for the draft, this class isn’t great. There are no Joe Alt’s. But guess what? That doesn’t matter bc we’d never have a shot at one anyway. There are a couple of guys who could be “average” starters which makes the class considered “weak”. You guys realize an average LT changes everything right? We haven’t had an average LT since Eric Fisher and we saw what happened.

Josh Simmons is 100% on this teams draft board based upon traits, size, film and versatility. He is a top 10 pick if he doesn’t get injured. Whether he stays on our board will be due to Rick Burkholder, and I’d bet that decision was made last week after his private visit. Josh Conerly is also a fit for us IMO. He’s got similar traits to Eric Fisher but needs to get stronger. I think he could grow into an average LT.

Fellas, this season hinges on Jaylon Moore like it or not. This could easily go the same way resulting in horizontal passes, low A-dot passes and boring offense bc Mahomes is getting hit 8-12 times a game and we have zero trust in the LT.

The Chiefs most likely feel like this is the best draft to get a LT bc of the perception of the tackles and depth of the class at DL and RB. They’re likely gonna go after a LT and I cannot blame them one bit after the last few years.

Man, if the Chiefs thought Moore could reasonably resemble the dogshit they had last year, they would have stood pat at the position rather than piss away $30 million over two years.

I’m not predicting all pro for Moore, but Christ at least have a little faith

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by RunKC

You can get good WR’s with lower assets (hello Worthy and Rice). You cannot get a LT. It never happens.

You aren’t getting a good LT in FA. Teams will not let those guys hit the market. And you won’t get them later in the draft either.

Jaylon Moore is simply the next Kingsley Suamatia, Wanya Morris or Donovan Smith. He’s a lottery ticket that even the Chiefs don’t have much faith in per his contract, and for good reason. He’s not even a good lottery ticket. He’s a below average one. He played in a protected run first scheme that helped him. That’s not what we do here. His ass is gonna have it rough. He’ll be on an island way more and I’m not confident he can hold up..


As for the draft, this class isn’t great. There are no Joe Alt’s. But guess what? That doesn’t matter bc we’d never have a shot at one anyway. There are a couple of guys who could be “average” starters which makes the class considered “weak”. You guys realize an average LT changes everything right? We haven’t had an average LT since Eric Fisher and we saw what happened.

Josh Simmons is 100% on this teams draft board based upon traits, size, film and versatility. He is a top 10 pick if he doesn’t get injured. Whether he stays on our board will be due to Rick Burkholder, and I’d bet that decision was made last week after his private visit. Josh Conerly is also a fit for us IMO. He’s got similar traits to Eric Fisher but needs to get stronger. I think he could grow into an average LT.

Fellas, this season hinges on Jaylon Moore like it or not. This could easily go the same way resulting in horizontal passes, low A-dot passes and boring offense bc Mahomes is getting hit 8-12 times a game and we have zero trust in the LT.

The Chiefs most likely feel like this is the best draft to get a LT bc of the perception of the tackles and depth of the class at DL and RB. They’re likely gonna go after a LT and I cannot blame them one bit after the last few years.

I’ve said it before but I really think the Chiefs will find themselves in a bit of no man’s land if they stay at 31 (I’m totally fine with staying there BTW).

I think Nolen, Grant, Harmon, Simmons, and Conerly are all gone…Banks probably too. Will Johnson and Barron? I assume gone.

Now I know people will say that pushes other players down…true but at what positions?

I feel like so many people are just solely focused on the trenches and I don’t believe the pick goes there…it’s WR, RB, or Edge…maybe a CB.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by RunKC

You can get good WR’s with lower assets (hello Worthy and Rice). You cannot get a LT. It never happens.

You aren’t getting a good LT in FA. Teams will not let those guys hit the market. And you won’t get them later in the draft either.

Jaylon Moore is simply the next Kingsley Suamatia, Wanya Morris or Donovan Smith. He’s a lottery ticket that even the Chiefs don’t have much faith in per his contract, and for good reason. He’s not even a good lottery ticket. He’s a below average one. He played in a protected run first scheme that helped him. That’s not what we do here. His ass is gonna have it rough. He’ll be on an island way more and I’m not confident he can hold up..


As for the draft, this class isn’t great. There are no Joe Alt’s. But guess what? That doesn’t matter bc we’d never have a shot at one anyway. There are a couple of guys who could be “average” starters which makes the class considered “weak”. You guys realize an average LT changes everything right? We haven’t had an average LT since Eric Fisher and we saw what happened.

Josh Simmons is 100% on this teams draft board based upon traits, size, film and versatility. He is a top 10 pick if he doesn’t get injured. Whether he stays on our board will be due to Rick Burkholder, and I’d bet that decision was made last week after his private visit. Josh Conerly is also a fit for us IMO. He’s got similar traits to Eric Fisher but needs to get stronger. I think he could grow into an average LT.

Fellas, this season hinges on Jaylon Moore like it or not. This could easily go the same way resulting in horizontal passes, low A-dot passes and boring offense bc Mahomes is getting hit 8-12 times a game and we have zero trust in the LT.

The Chiefs most likely feel like this is the best draft to get a LT bc of the perception of the tackles and depth of the class at DL and RB. They’re likely gonna go after a LT and I cannot blame them one bit after the last few years.

Getting a good LT outside the first round happens more often than players making complete recoveries from torn patellar tendons. As in … it has happened before.

You want to talk about lottery tickets while advocating vociferously for Josh Simmons. Do you not see the irony there?

I don’t think Moore is going to be an All-Pro, but if they didn’t think he could be an average player or improvement over what they had, they wouldn’t have signed him the second FA opened.

Yeah, he’ll have to adjust to what KC asks him to do and isn’t a perfect fit for that.

I’m all for investing at LT in the draft on a guy they like. Even in the 1st round. Just not on Josh Simmons.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

It does if you consider Watson is no longer on the team, Rice is facing a potential suspension and Brown/JuJu are on one year deals. There is a chance this is Kelce's last season too...

It takes a good part of a season for a rookie WR to fully grasp the system. 2026 will be Rice's final season on his rookie deal. If someone is there they like, it wouldnt be a shock at all. WR has become a very expensive position..keeping it constantly stocked with cheap contacts is a smart move

DE/WR/CB is the play IMO...maybe a LT. They haven't shown the tendency to draft interior DL early with Jones being the exception.

Yeah, Rice is a very good player but he isn't exactly smart off the field.

Worthy is also a good player but after that there is very little.

Kelce is on his farewell tour and we don't have a star TE or another WR developing.


Sky Moore is a bust.


It has been YEARS since we had a top 5 offense and we still don't have a for sure LT or enough weapons to overwhelm anyone.

We also have no advantage in offensive coaching anymore, our scheme is stale and not efficient.

[Hayneplane]

I feel it will be a DT though not sure who will still be there. Going to say Kenneth Grant.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Yeah, Rice is a very good player but he isn't exactly smart off the field.

Worthy is also a good player but after that there is very little.

Kelce is on his farewell tour and we don't have a star TE or another WR developing.


Sky Moore is a bust.


It has been YEARS since we had a top 5 offense and we still don't have a for sure LT or enough weapons to overwhelm anyone.

We also have no advantage in offensive coaching anymore, our scheme is stale and not efficient.

There is so much to unpack here I don't know where to start

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Kiimo

There is so much to unpack here I don't know where to start

Point is we haven't been good on offense in years so the idea we don't need help on offense is wrong.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Point is we haven't been good on offense in years so the idea we don't need help on offense is wrong.

Would have really loved to have seen what this offense looked like with a full season of Rice, Worthy, Hollywood. Does the LT hole still derail it? Does the lack of a running game still derail it? Kelce’s inevitable decline?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TRR

Would have really loved to have seen what this offense looked like with a full season of Rice, Worthy, Hollywood. Does the LT hole still derail it? Does the lack of a running game still derail it? Kelce’s inevitable decline?

We saw the offense with Rice and Worthy and Kelce ( no Hollywood) for about 4 games and it was mediocre.


I do think if an Elite offensive weapon is there around the 20's we should consider moving up for it.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Yeah, Rice is a very good player but he isn't exactly smart off the field.

Worthy is also a good player but after that there is very little.

Kelce is on his farewell tour and we don't have a star TE or another WR developing.


Sky Moore is a bust.


It has been YEARS since we had a top 5 offense and we still don't have a for sure LT or enough weapons to overwhelm anyone.

We also have no advantage in offensive coaching anymore, our scheme is stale and not efficient.

You literally described why the scheme isn’t working before your last sentence.

Kelce, Hopkins, Juju and Kareem are old, slow and washed. We also had the worst LT situation in the league.

The scheme provided results with Worthy and Rice. Amazing what happens when you have young explosive players instead of old, washed players who were good 3 years ago.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by RunKC

You literally described why the scheme isn’t working before your last sentence.

Kelce, Hopkins, Juju and Kareem are old, slow and washed. We also had the worst LT situation in the league.

The scheme provided results with Worthy and Rice. Amazing what happens when you have young explosive players instead of old, washed players who were good 3 years ago.

Counting the games Rice and Worthy played in the Chiefs averaged 23 points per game and were ranked 14th in the NFL on offense in Points Per Play.

Mediocre results even with Travis Kelce a year younger than he will be this year.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Counting the games Rice and Worthy played in the Chiefs averaged 23 points per game and were ranked 14th in the NFL on offense in Points Per Play.

Mediocre results even with Travis Kelce a year younger than he will be this year.

One positive I believe we'll see this year, is Kelce will look much better this season than last

Not only has he pledged to be in excellent shape, but he also admitted that all of the jet setting around with Taylor took its toll on him... he's gonna have a very solid final run IMO

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Counting the games Rice and Worthy played in the Chiefs averaged 23 points per game and were ranked 14th in the NFL on offense in Points Per Play.

Mediocre results even with Travis Kelce a year younger than he will be this year.

Good luck running your offense when this happens at LT all year long.

So the Chiefs *tried* to give their rookie LT help vs Nik Bonitto but....whew. Dude is fast. pic.twitter.com/s2iKuHp9bc

— Mina Kimes (@minakimes) November 10, 2024

Bengals Free Agency :

March 19, 2021, Trey Hendrickson signed a four-year, $60 million contract with the Bengals. One of the best FA pickups in #CincinnatiFootballHistory pic.twitter.com/EuRq2kyOZh

— Bengal Jim & Friends (@bengaljims_BTR) March 17, 2025

Eagles sack Mahomes on back to back plays!

📺: #SBLIX on FOX
📱: Tubi + NFL app pic.twitter.com/Uun9bviMwL

— NFL (@NFL) February 10, 2025

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Good luck running your offense when this happens at LT all year long.

So the Chiefs *tried* to give their rookie LT help vs Nik Bonitto but....whew. Dude is fast. pic.twitter.com/s2iKuHp9bc

— Mina Kimes (@minakimes) November 10, 2024

Bengals Free Agency :

March 19, 2021, Trey Hendrickson signed a four-year, $60 million contract with the Bengals. One of the best FA pickups in #CincinnatiFootballHistory pic.twitter.com/EuRq2kyOZh

— Bengal Jim & Friends (@bengaljims_BTR) March 17, 2025

Eagles sack Mahomes on back to back plays!

📺: #SBLIX on FOX
📱: Tubi + NFL app pic.twitter.com/Uun9bviMwL

— NFL (@NFL) February 10, 2025

And we still have not acquired a sure fire LT.

Jaylon Moore looks like a good idea but who knows.

[Chargem]

Think I am going with Derrick Harmon