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Old 04-17-2025, 02:31 PM  
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Call Your Shot: Who will be the Chiefs first pick in the 2025 NFL draft?

I'm going with Josh Simmons, OT, Ohio St.

I think the Chiefs would prefer a guy like Walter Nolen or Derrick Harmon falls into their lap, but I don't think that happens next Thursday night, or at least I'm not going to get me hopes up.

A lot of people will not like this pick, due to the injury risk, but the Chiefs take a swing at a T that otherwise would never be in that late 1st round range.

Side note: I could also see Josh Conerly being the pick and could've just as easily chose him. Upside isn't as high, but he's probably safer given his health.
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Old 04-19-2025, 11:15 AM   #151
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Reading tone in text says more about you than me. Maybe you're just reading it that way since that's how you post here every day?


I'm not the first person to say Conerly is a one trick pony by the way
This team's most dire long term need is a LT that can protect Mahomes. Conerly is as good as any that we've had available, and probably as good as any that will be available in the future. If he were a great run blocker on top of being an above average in pass pro, he'd be a top 20 pick.

I was more talking about you taking the Burden stuff personal because you're a fan. I really like Burden, but there's a reason he's not a lock top 15 pick. Why is it so hard to acknowledge that a lot of these guys have character and/or maturity concerns?

You probably would've handwaved concerns about Jermaine Burton last year. How did that turn out for the Bengals?
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Old 04-19-2025, 11:18 AM   #152
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Burden’s performance in 2024 was about his QB getting hurt and sucking ass all year. Easily left 300 yards and 4+ TDs, at least, because his QBs couldn’t get him the ball.

He was viewed as a top 15 pick entering this season. None of the stuff that had him there changed. If you’re excited about the prospect of drafting Simmons because he’s a talent that normally would not be available to the Chiefs, the same should apply to Burden, really. Except Burden just has some bland character concerns, not an injury that has ruined the career of every other guy who has had it.

He’s a diva WR, but most of the best ones are. Some scouts who don’t like the NIL landscape bad-mouthing him doesn’t go too far with me.

Biggest concern for me with Burden would be if you feel comfortable that he and Rice can be used simultaneously.
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Old 04-19-2025, 11:21 AM   #153
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Burden’s performance in 2024 was about his QB getting hurt and sucking ass all year. Easily left 300 yards and 4+ TDs, at least, because his QBs couldn’t get him the ball.

He was viewed as a top 15 pick entering this season. None of the stuff that had him there changed. If you’re excited about the prospect of drafting Simmons because he’s a talent that normally would not be available to the Chiefs, the same should apply to Burden, really. Except Burden just has some bland character concerns, not an injury that has ruined the career of every other guy who has had it.

He’s a diva WR, but most of the best ones are. Some scouts who don’t like the NIL landscape bad-mouthing him doesn’t go too far with me.

Biggest concern for me with Burden would be if you feel comfortable that he and Rice can be used simultaneously.
Dude, you're completely misunderstanding my point. I would 100% be good with Burden, and there's a damn good chance he'd be my BPA too.

But that doesn't mean he doesn't have character concerns.

My point was more about Pickens though. That is 100% not the guy to point to to say this stuff is often overblown
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Old 04-19-2025, 11:40 AM   #154
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Well okay but MY point is character concerns do not concern me nearly as much as talent concerns or health concerns.

I do not care that Burden hired his girlfriend to be his manager or that he didn't practice hard when he realized his QB sucks.

I do have concerns that Simmons' knee is ****ed, I do have concerns that Conerly can't run block.

I know tackle is an issue but this doesn't feel like the draft to force it. The guys we'd trade up for are not answers, they're lottery tickets. Might as well take lottery tickets in later rounds. But I don't think you get Luther Burden unless you take him at 31 and he might not even fall that far.
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Old 04-19-2025, 11:51 AM   #155
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Old 04-19-2025, 12:01 PM   #156
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trade out of the first round maybe?
If Veach can’t find a trade partner to move up in the 1st round he’s 100% trading out of it.
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or I guess lack of one
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Old 04-19-2025, 12:22 PM   #158
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Luther Burden is the Brian Thomas Jr of this draft IMO. Just unfathomable that he falls as far as he does bc he has no business doing so. And he’s going to be good.

If the Chiefs get stuck again with their top tackles and DL gone you sprint to the podium to take that kid.

And he’d fit great here regardless of Rice. Kelce legs are done and we have no other WR on this roster worth a shit that’s bigger than 175 lbs.

Kid has long speed. He can be ****ing great here.
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Old 04-19-2025, 12:24 PM   #159
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Kelce nearing the end is something I also thought of and forgot to list among my reasons so thank you for bringing that up.


edit: I had a gigantic draft crush on Brian Thomas Jr, this feels like it would go a long way to easing that loss haha

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Well okay but MY point is character concerns do not concern me nearly as much as talent concerns or health concerns.

I do not care that Burden hired his girlfriend to be his manager or that he didn't practice hard when he realized his QB sucks.

I do have concerns that Simmons' knee is ****ed, I do have concerns that Conerly can't run block.

I know tackle is an issue but this doesn't feel like the draft to force it. The guys we'd trade up for are not answers, they're lottery tickets. Might as well take lottery tickets in later rounds. But I don't think you get Luther Burden unless you take him at 31 and he might not even fall that far.
You think run blocking is just power drive blocking?

The kid is great at reaching and sealing in our zone blocking style. He's also good at getting to second-level targets.

I'll defer to Mike Tice's opinion on this kid instead.

There's not a tackle in this class that's truly good at power blocking.
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Luther Burden is the Brian Thomas Jr of this draft IMO. Just unfathomable that he falls as far as he does bc he has no business doing so. And he’s going to be good.

If the Chiefs get stuck again with their top tackles and DL gone you sprint to the podium to take that kid.

And he’d fit great here regardless of Rice. Kelce legs are done and we have no other WR on this roster worth a shit that’s bigger than 175 lbs.

Kid has long speed. He can be ****ing great here.
If the board falls the way I think it will, I’d have zero qualms over taking Burden. Me personally, I’d still take Henderson but again no qualms if it’s Luther.
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If he trades up with the Vikes, I think it'll be Josh Simmons. If we hold steady, I think it'll be Josh Connerly
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I’m not going to name names because I’m not a communist (Seinfeld joke) but I want a DL, WR and RB with the first three picks. Don’t care about the order, but I want day one contributors at all all 3 spots and I think they can pull that off.

Ideally, I’m jumping all over Hampton if he’s there at the bottom of the first. You simply can’t pass on such an electric playmaker, regardless of how little the Chiefs value the position. I truly believe if you manage to land him, it takes this offense to a level it hasn’t been since 2018.
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Dude, you're completely misunderstanding my point. I would 100% be good with Burden, and there's a damn good chance he'd be my BPA too.

But that doesn't mean he doesn't have character concerns.

My point was more about Pickens though. That is 100% not the guy to point to to say this stuff is often overblown

Oh, I wasn’t responding directly to you. It was a general response. Point being, if by the logic that a player of Simmons’ talent is rarely available to the Chiefs, the same can be applied to Burden.

I mean, shoot, if Burden had done the Jamar Chase (and sat out his jr year) he’d be the first WR off the board with the way he tested.
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