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Old 04-15-2025, 07:20 AM  
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Old 04-15-2025, 09:00 AM   #16
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An even decent tackle would be the biggest upgrade this team could make. If Andy Reid and Andy Heck think a kid from this class fits that and can be a good long term solution, they should go get him.

It’s just a matter of what they think. Sure would be interesting to be a fly in the room listening to those guys thoughts on the tackle class.
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Old 04-15-2025, 09:14 AM   #17
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Old 04-15-2025, 09:24 AM   #18
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An even decent tackle would be the biggest upgrade this team could make. If Andy Reid and Andy Heck think a kid from this class fits that and can be a good long term solution, they should go get him.

It’s just a matter of what they think. Sure would be interesting to be a fly in the room listening to those guys thoughts on the tackle class.
This difference it would make to this offense if Mahomes had 3-4 seconds in the pocket
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Old 04-15-2025, 09:28 AM   #19
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I don't know shit about the college players so no idea if a good potential move or wasted draft capital.

Who would we likely be going after?
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Old 04-15-2025, 09:39 AM   #20
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Old 04-15-2025, 09:44 AM   #21
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What is Trey smith worth in trade value? Part of me would rather trade Trey than give up any draft picks. Is that a bad idea? Can Wanya Morris play RG if we were to trade Trey smith?

Paying smith $23.4 M seems like a lot? Here’s an article. I wonder what Trey is worth in a trade? I whiffed on Sneads value. I thought he’d be worth a 2nd rounder.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article...220750561.html

The Kansas City Chiefs announced Friday they're placing the non-exclusive franchise tag on Pro Bowl guard Trey Smith.

That means Smith's contract must be no less than either the average of the top five cap hits at that player's position or 120% of the player's salary the previous season, whichever is greater. Unlike the exclusive tag, however, Smith is allowed to negotiate with other teams and sign an offer sheet, which the Chiefs have the chance to match. If they chooses not to, they're entitled to receive draft compensation equivalent to two first-round draft picks from the signing team.

The 25-year-old Smith would make $23.4 million if he stays with the Chiefs on the franchise tag, which would make him the highest paid guard in the league.

The franchise tags are used by teams to keep players from leaving in free agency. Although the Chiefs still want to sign a long-term deal with Smith, per multiple reports, the tag allows them a short-term solution.

A four-year veteran out of Tennessee, Smith has established himself as one of the best linemen in the league. With his rookie contract expiring, Smith was one of the top free agents this offseason before Kansas City pulled him back in.

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Yea, saw this earlier. The Vikings don't have a lot of picks, so it makes a ton of sense.

Apparently it would only cost our late 3rd in terms of the value chart? If so, I'd be all over it for the right player (Walter Nolen I'm looking at you!).
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Old 04-15-2025, 10:01 AM   #22
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What is Trey smith worth in trade value? Part of me would rather trade Trey than give up any draft picks. Is that a bad idea? Can Wanya Morris play RG if we were to trade Trey smith?

Paying smith $23.4 M seems like a lot? Here’s an article. I wonder what Trey is worth in a trade? I whiffed on Sneads value. I thought he’d be worth a 2nd rounder.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article...220750561.html

The Kansas City Chiefs announced Friday they're placing the non-exclusive franchise tag on Pro Bowl guard Trey Smith.

That means Smith's contract must be no less than either the average of the top five cap hits at that player's position or 120% of the player's salary the previous season, whichever is greater. Unlike the exclusive tag, however, Smith is allowed to negotiate with other teams and sign an offer sheet, which the Chiefs have the chance to match. If they chooses not to, they're entitled to receive draft compensation equivalent to two first-round draft picks from the signing team.

The 25-year-old Smith would make $23.4 million if he stays with the Chiefs on the franchise tag, which would make him the highest paid guard in the league.

The franchise tags are used by teams to keep players from leaving in free agency. Although the Chiefs still want to sign a long-term deal with Smith, per multiple reports, the tag allows them a short-term solution.

A four-year veteran out of Tennessee, Smith has established himself as one of the best linemen in the league. With his rookie contract expiring, Smith was one of the top free agents this offseason before Kansas City pulled him back in.
Seems like it is always more difficult to pull of such a trade during the draft. Just because a team taking him are going to want a long term deal. Also do not see him being worthy of a 1st.
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Old 04-15-2025, 10:03 AM   #23
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This difference it would make to this offense if Mahomes had 3-4 seconds in the pocket
You realize that the difference in 'average pocket time' between the BEST team in the league and the WORST team in the league is 2.6 seconds vs. 2.1 seconds, right?

The 7th best team in the league was at 2.4 seconds. The 28th best team in the league was at 2.3 seconds. A tenth of a second separated 2/3 of the NFL last season.

This idea that anyone's gonna build PM some great wall by adding Josh Conerly or Josh Simmons is just silly.

He's gonna have somewhere between 2.3 and 2.5 seconds to throw next season. Same as everyone else.

He'll have a pressure rate somewhere between 20% and 25% -- same as everyone else.

We're not gonna get him 3 seconds to throw the football, fellas. And 4 is just laughably ignorant.
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Old 04-15-2025, 10:04 AM   #24
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You realize that the difference in 'average pocket time' between the BEST team in the league and the WORST team in the league is 2.6 seconds vs. 2.1 seconds, right?

The 7th best team in the league was at 2.4 seconds. The 28th best team in the league was at 2.3 seconds. A tenth of a second separated 2/3 of the NFL last season.

This idea that anyone's gonna build PM some great wall by adding Josh Conerly or Josh Simmons is just silly.

He's gonna have somewhere between 2.3 and 2.5 seconds to throw next season. Same as everyone else.

He'll have a pressure rate somewhere between 20% and 25% -- same as everyone else.

We're not gonna get him 3 seconds to throw the football, fellas. And 4 is just laughably ignorant.
Pat just needs to not poop down his leg and hold the ball too long
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What is Trey smith worth in trade value? Part of me would rather trade Trey than give up any draft picks. Is that a bad idea? Can Wanya Morris play RG if we were to trade Trey smith?

Paying smith $23.4 M seems like a lot? Here’s an article. I wonder what Trey is worth in a trade? I whiffed on Sneads value. I thought he’d be worth a 2nd rounder.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article...220750561.html

The Kansas City Chiefs announced Friday they're placing the non-exclusive franchise tag on Pro Bowl guard Trey Smith.

That means Smith's contract must be no less than either the average of the top five cap hits at that player's position or 120% of the player's salary the previous season, whichever is greater. Unlike the exclusive tag, however, Smith is allowed to negotiate with other teams and sign an offer sheet, which the Chiefs have the chance to match. If they chooses not to, they're entitled to receive draft compensation equivalent to two first-round draft picks from the signing team.

The 25-year-old Smith would make $23.4 million if he stays with the Chiefs on the franchise tag, which would make him the highest paid guard in the league.

The franchise tags are used by teams to keep players from leaving in free agency. Although the Chiefs still want to sign a long-term deal with Smith, per multiple reports, the tag allows them a short-term solution.

A four-year veteran out of Tennessee, Smith has established himself as one of the best linemen in the league. With his rookie contract expiring, Smith was one of the top free agents this offseason before Kansas City pulled him back in.
I’d love to but you simply cannot go into a new season with three new starters on the OL, especially when the two Gs were complete washouts at T and the new LT is a career backup.
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Old 04-15-2025, 10:38 AM   #27
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This difference it would make to this offense if Mahomes had 3-4 seconds in the pocket
3 secomds would be awesome and probably lead the league. 4 is impossible to attain. But I agree with your premise in that better protection would make a big difference!
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Mahomes doesn’t need 3-4 seconds. He needs a LT that won’t get prison raped resulting in Mahomes getting hit 10+ times a game.

Wanya actively ruined games. So did Kingsley.

Both Raiders home games Wanya got Mahomes killed to the point he got benched. Kingsley got raped by Hendrickson and killed Mahomes. Both Chargers games, the Super Bowl, the Texans playoff game. The Broncos game was awful.

They need a LT who he can trust. Someone who is at least marginal like Orlando or Donovan Smith.
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I’d love to but you simply cannot go into a new season with three new starters on the OL, especially when the two Gs were complete washouts at T and the new LT is a career backup.
Didn't we win a SB after changing our the players on the O-line?
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